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You mean a higher deminsion?
Originally posted by spliff4020
Does he get a better version, than say, some schmo who just barely made it in?
Originally posted by spliff4020
Hmm. doesnt that sound like a rip off. I mean, I'm a good person and all, but I think Mother Theresea or the Pope did alot more good with their little finger that I will with my whole life. I think there should be a better reward for them. Just an opinion.
is it a state of mind or a real place?
Originally posted by spliff4020
I dont think the pope understood the full scope of the molestation thing here. I think he tought it was a minor "american" problem.
Thats the point of cardinals. They are rule localy. And by the time it got full blown, he was way to ill to do anything anyways. Thats not the point of this post though.
The point (or question) is about heaven.
Is it a real place or a state of mind?
Originally posted by Croat56
riley the pope is not in charge of priests.
He does not make a person a priest, move them, or ANYTHING. He did not know what happened and when he found out he was utterly disgusted.
The pope is briefed on everything that happens in his church.. and he'd have to be as there have been millions of dollars given in comepensation. The buck stoped with him.
That is not very realistic. It only became 'full blown' because it became more public.. but these litagations have been going on for some 20/30 years.
If a company is in legal trouble it's CEO is guarenteed to know. For the record.. it was only after it became public that he made some sort of apology for it. It would have been impossible for him not to have known the world wide extent and frequency of it much earlier
Your point was that the pope should get a 'better' heaven [not what heaven is].. my point was his morals have not always been perfect and that someone working in a soup kitchen would have just as much chance as he.
Riley is right. The pope knew of those instances long before everyone else
Originally posted by spliff4020
Not always, my friend. Im not aware of ANY public apology that he made concerning this, although I could be wrong.
Also its not a WORLD WIDE problem as you say. It was an American problem, which is how the vatican saw it. A minor American problem.
Besides, I think alot of people are coming out now, strictly for financial gain. THey see the huge payouts, and all of the sudden, they start finding "supressed memories" For me, 20 years is a little to long to wait. Just MHO..
Umm no, again the point is, if heaven is a real place or a state of mind. The pope comment was a side line, unless of course, your clairvoyant and can read MY true intentions.