Originally posted by FlyersFan
Not ludicrous at all.
1 - Didn't the church declare three times that the apparitions were 'not of
supernatural origin'? That doesn't mean they agree or disagree with what
is being said. It just means they think it was human conjured. Made up.
[edit on 4/12/2005 by FlyersFan]
I guess I am having difficulty writing this off from your point of view since you say 1) they are not of supernatural origin & 2) they are demonic. This seems to me a contradiction. Doesn't demonic also fall under the definition of supernatural? I am finding just as much conflicting information on the site you posted as every site supporting the apparitions.
For every debate in the Catholic Church there are a multitude of extremely convincing sites for both sides of the argument. As for everyone else (other than a Catholic), there is a lot here to investigate on, speculate on and report on. The church to my knowledge has NOT condemned THE MESSAGES of Garabandal, but whether or not they have is moot unless you are a devout Catholic bound by direction of the Church.
From the site I previously posted, which I find for the most part to be extremely faithful to Catholic teachings, I just want to make a point about THE MESSAGES themselves.
Indeed, some of the prophetic elements of the message can be found in private revelations which have been approved since the initial decision on Garabandal in the 1960s. For example, the concept of a worldwide warning can be found in the Diary of Saint Faustina (Diary n.83), and both the message of Divine Mercy given to her (Diary n.1588), and that of Akita (approved by the local bishop), speak of chastisement if mankind does not ultimately repent. Similar prophetic content can be found in the writings of Elizabeth Canori-Mora and Mary of Jesus Crucified, both of whom were beatified by Pope John Paul II, as well as in prophecies given by God to Blessed Anna Maria Taigi and St. Caspar del Bufalo.
It does not seem to me that the Church has forbidden a study of this particular apparition. For those who care if the Church does, they are still waiting, for those who don't, any decision of the Church either way will probably not convince them personally.
Perhaps an investigation of the actual words of the above mentioned writings will shed some further light on this. I think there is no debating there is a long history of this type of warning down through the ages. The thing is, they do seem to be accelerating during these times. Garabandal is one of the few with any tangibles at all in terms of clues. Disecting it may not prove or disprove it, but I don't see how it can hurt to bring awareness of the phenomenon providing it's not flat out demonic, in which case I really think the Church would have done something by now to make that clear to the faithful, but I don't think the intent of this thread has anything to do with whether or not the Church actually has approved it or not.
[edit on 4/12/2005 by Relentless]