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Originally posted by Bout Time
Even putting aside the fact that this is an ambassador position to a body that is predicated on collabarative diplomacy,
because they're on the brink & need focused loquacious advocates.
We don't. Neither does the UK and all other 1st World nations
The corporate imperialism draped in the cloak of nationalism is not nationalism.
And most people do not subscribe to this administrations marketed "vision"
My sense is that even the Kick azz first, take names later jingoists are losing steam in their convictions to support this administrations vascillation between ineptitude, hubris and fascism.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Not for nothing, but its really not up to you to determine what any particular country is permited to do. First World countries don't have to be internationalistically orientated merely because they are stable and successful.
Bolton seems like quite the nationalist to me. Bush seems like more of a hyper capitalist, tho he does seem to support protectionist economic practices.
? A majority of the voting public gave tacit approval to pre-emption and nationalism in the 2004 elections. The entire public saw what bush did with his first admin, and had to know that the next 4 years woudl be more of the same. With that in mind, they voted, or didn't vote, and the result was approval.
The hawks aren't going to drop support for the administration over 'poltical' concerns. The only 'internal' dissent is amoung actual conservatives, the sorts that didn't want to get involved in that 'european affiar' called world war one, or that 'messiness' in rwanda. That kind of thinking, however, isn't marketable, and they aren't going to be able to appeal to those ideals even within the right. The conservatives are a smaller, weaker portion of the party, as compared to the neo-conservatives. And also, the conservatives can't 'reach out' to other political groups to form any sort of 'block' to temper neo-conservatives.
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I just hope that there is a full vote on this guy. Normally, I'd say that either party is within its rights to block a vote. But in this case, it can be something of a major symbol. I mean, John Bolton as UN ambassador? If you can't vote it down, then you can't stop it, you know? Its something so whacky that you have to be able to say that it was clearly and cleanly rejected.
Wanted: Complete A**hole for U.N. Ambassador
Truly righteous indignation is rare in Washington, and in that respect former State Department intelligence chief Carl Ford Jr.'s testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday was about as good as it gets. Ford's sterling reputation as analyst—coupled with his staunchly conservative, pro-Bush/Cheney credentials—made it impossible for anyone to question his veracity or his judgment as he described U.N. ambassador hopeful John Bolton as a "quintessential kiss-up, kick-down kind of guy" and a "bully" whose "serial abuse" of subordinates causes so much "collateral damage and personal hurt" that he's unworthy of any high office.
www.villagevoice.com...
Originally posted by Bout Time
Originally posted by Nygdan
Not for nothing, but its really not up to you to determine what any particular country is permited to do. First World countries don't have to be internationalistically orientated merely because they are stable and successful.
But imagine if it was up to me!?!?
That is too short sighted , Nygdan....Of course First World countries have to be internationally orientated.
simply a husk Team Bush will operate through in order to further the Neo-Con agenda.
A margin does not constitute a majority - this was not a 3 to 1 ratio win; more like a 1.0025 to 1 win - again, no majority.
a fraction of a fraction of those who voted bush voted Bush in 100% endorsement of all things him.
I'd like to see that full vote as well