Who cares about what is really happening.

That will not even register if people do not really get what is IMPORTANT.

Politics and voting are important. Involvement is important. Attention is important.

If we had those things, the candidates would not be who they are. The ones we have now know what kind of people they are "leading".

Sheep.

Maybe the "sheep" are tired of being shorn. Does anyone think that might have been what Titor was saying...?

Originally posted by SirClownius
No mass mind control required. Most people would just rather believe a comfortable lie than face painful truth.

That sums it up beautifully!

Originally posted by KnotI
Maybe the "sheep" are tired of being shorn. Does anyone think that might have been what Titor was saying...?

No, I think he was saying that there's always gullible sheep to be shorn. JT has been debunked countless times on this board and still there are people who will overlook all the lies and misinformation and yell "no, really! He was for real!"

perhaps because it is such a fascinating story and the person who wrote the story seems to have put in a tremendous amount of effort into it. Bear in mind most people never "spoke" to this titor character. Most people read posted archives of his "conversations" with an amazingly stupid group of people who asked incredibly dumb questions. Pardon me if I wasn't convinced by his moral superiority to people asking questions about who won the World Series.
Honestly, it's a fascinating bit of fiction and was quite thorough. In fact if the author will continue to whip up such stories, I'd lay down a couple of bucks for the book.

People miss the obvious that Titor could have been an agent for some organization doing a job to gauge reactions of people for supposed or proposed future outcomes.

there is even a chance that what he says is even true due to US military work in time travel which may have shown different time lines as occuring in future.

the reason I doubted Titor personally as a time traveller himself and thus his story is that he displayed an anti-american mentality that had no place whatsoever in his supposed lifetime.

mind you it amazes me the young people here that have hatred for their own country and espouse their countries faults while being entirely ignorant of anything beyond their own borders.

mind you it amazes me the young people here that have hatred for their own country and espouse their countries faults while being entirely ignorant of anything beyond their own borders.--------------------------------------

Point well taken. Still,as Americans, shouldn't we strive to set an example for the world beyond our border? A better example? This nation has been blessed, no doubt about it, we all know this; now what do we do with it? I don't hate my country,(not that young either), still we got some big problems here. And dismissing them when we have the right and opportunity to help correct them Will take us down the road to civil disobedience(civil war or worse). It's our duty to pry, and critique those we elect to look after us; not the other way around......



[Edited on 10-2-2004 by KnotI]

[Edited on 9-4-2004 by KnotI]

Anyone starting to notice anything in the news???

Helllllooo....News lately? Or will there be more revelations to come?

I just read his posts on the site he visited. When I considered what he said, I realised that it was quite safe for him to come online and say what he did. The reason is that few people would believe him. Only those who had open minds would consider him worth listening to. And I think it was those particular people he was trying to contact.

It reads like he felt he had to at least try to help anyone who would listen, knowing what was coming.
I know I would have to try , maybe make some small difference...
Kinda reminds me of the old and true saying that "no prophet is heard in their own land"..

Originally posted by KrazyJethro
Who cares about what is really happening.

That will not even register if people do not really get what is IMPORTANT.

Politics and voting are important. Involvement is important. Attention is important.

If we had those things, the candidates would not be who they are. The ones we have now know what kind of people they are "leading".

Sheep.

The election was "decided" in Florida, remember?
Or as Titor was quoted; stolen. The sheep never had a chance.....

yea i've read up on the titor story...very interesting. My take on it is...i'll just have to wait and see.

my take on titor...

real...real...real..

how else were we to uncover time-travel??
we uncover time-travel with the counter-loss of over 3 billion lives, who knows, life does have it's mysterious ways to go about matters.

i think titor is irrelevant, no matter what he says, what's going to happen will happen, and therefore...the best tactic, would be to prepare yourselves? i mean, trenches here in the ukraine are quite popular, some friends and i keep messing about with the idea of actually digging out a proper shelter this summer... pressurized air-tight door etc... 10 meters deep, 20 meters wide, and a good 30 meters long, cement-filled on the sides, the actual door-step is like a meter above ground, the entire edifice is to be constructed from proper-cast cement, over a metal cage.
*gets the shovel*

Cyrus

ps: i'm a nutter

I'm now pretty sure he was a fake. Most of the things he said were based on some old roleplaying game and th novel 'Alas, Bablon'. Also he never gave information about a specific event that would happen on a specific day, so he could not be proven wrong if the event did not occur. I think he was just a clever guy who had good knowledge of the world and could make educated guesses about things that may happen in the near future.

I suppose we'll just have to wait until 2005 to see if he was right.

Obvious fake for 2 very important reasons.

1. He never gave any specific deteails about the future.

2. The words he used, (his language) is that of today. There was no lingo from the future.

What I mean by this is, if you were to go back 32 years to 1964, you'd hear alot of words we don't hear anymore in 2004. And the people in 1964 would hear alot of words from you, they hardly, if ever, used in the way we use them today.

Thats his flaw....... he didn't account for constantly changing trends in our language.

For example, in the 70's, 'groovy' ment cool, then in the 80's 'rad' ment cool, then in the 90's 'dope' ment cool, so on, and so on. This happens with many, many words, with those words having multiple meanings. Like me saying now, 'man that car is pimp'. If i said that 32 years ago, or 32 years from now, no one would 'get it'.

The fact that he didn't use any 'lingo' from the future, says to me, that he's a fake.

I think that for every bonefied skeptic convinced and trying to convince everyone else he was faking it, there are 10 more quietly watching , listening and waiting to see what will become of these "predictions".
I will.

Originally posted by KnotI
I think that for every bonefied skeptic convinced and trying to convince everyone else he was faking it, there are 10 more quietly watching , listening and waiting to see what will become of these "predictions".
I will.

Your right, without fairy tales life would be most boring

Originally posted by Sapphire

Originally posted by KnotI
I think that for every bonefied skeptic convinced and trying to convince everyone else he was faking it, there are 10 more quietly watching , listening and waiting to see what will become of these "predictions".
I will.

Your right, without fairy tales life would be most boring

Exactly! Like the Fairy Tale that made me post this thread awhile back, before things really got started getting warm on the Political stage - that Fairy Tale about "events around the time of the 2004 elections" being the start of civil unrest or war in this country..I really wanted to get attention focused on that "Fairy Tale" before things got shaking. So some people might be paying attention if ANOTHER of his Fairy Tales ended up too close to the truth. That WMD warning still has me thinking and shaking my head you know...
At the least I'll just be layin back watching what's happening in Washington a bit more closely for now, but if you don't want to be bothered; well Titor did mention millions of people in the cities would'nt be aware of what was gong on for awhile. Maybe people like yourself who might not want to believe such a thing might happen. Nooo, not THIS President....