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Senate Votes to Reduce U.S. Dues to U.N.

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posted on Apr, 8 2005 @ 09:28 PM
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And in a drastic turn of events:


A drastic shortage of funds is forcing the UN World Food Programme (WFP) to cut the food rations of more than one million people living in the western Sudanese region of Darfur, a senior WFP spokesman, Peter Smerdon, told IRIN on Wednesday.

"We are cutting by half the non-cereal part of the daily ration, starting in May," he said.

Sudan: UN Food Agency to Cut Rations for Over 1m in Darfur

Shortage of funds?
Has Kofi or those other overpaid administrators cutback on their salaries and perks?
Might have to investigate just what these guys are being paid and their perks....

Shortage of funds?
*shakes head*






seekerof

[edit on 8-4-2005 by Seekerof]




posted on Apr, 8 2005 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by Otts
So now it's not only retreating from the UN, you guys also have to kill it? Have you asked the rest of the world what they think, or do you just not care because anyway, the U.S. is always right?






BRAVO I have the same theory ....the US has stepped into shoes they should not have and have put themselves high on an unsterdy pedistle and this will only serve to destroy us all , however the sad part is that we are not the only ones going to get hurt.

Quite frankly Im upset the actions of our goverment have gone unchecked and have become comteptable at the least, I think the US is due for a humility check....we are causing way to much strife for being as imoral as we are as a nation.



posted on Apr, 9 2005 @ 05:06 PM
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I agree that there is a need for an organization something like the UN is supposed to be. But the UN itself is beyond repair.

And what better way to get a new start than in a new home? Maybe in Europe, or the mideast, or Africa...



posted on Apr, 10 2005 @ 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by jsobecky
I agree that there is a need for an organization something like the UN is supposed to be. But the UN itself is beyond repair.

And what better way to get a new start than in a new home? Maybe in Europe, or the mideast, or Africa...








Sounds reasonable except for a couple of problems
1 It would cost billions to creat a new union....not to mention the billins to discharge the present one and resolve any debts it has.

2 Africa is a no no genocide and christain cleansing make things a little uncomfortable.



posted on Apr, 10 2005 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by drbryankkruta
BRAVO I have the same theory ....the US has stepped into shoes they should not have and have put themselves high on an unsterdy pedistle and this will only serve to destroy us all , however the sad part is that we are not the only ones going to get hurt.

Quite frankly Im upset the actions of our goverment have gone unchecked and have become comteptable at the least, I think the US is due for a humility check....we are causing way to much strife for being as imoral as we are as a nation.


Such silliness.............bleeder.........just a bleeder

The US doesn't need to kill the UN, it killed itself. The US needs to cut off all funding including any external funding in the US. If the US cuts off funding for these crimminals, they will leave. I think the UN should relocate to antartica. Anywhere more cold or desolate like the hearts of these animals in the UN managment.

I am not ashamed of America, it is the US that has time after time saved the planet from tyrany even when those saved were too "stupid" to survive. Those who believe in evolution consider this.......evolution is survival of the fittest, the weak and the sick die off. Then let evolution happen.



posted on Apr, 10 2005 @ 07:03 AM
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Wow another thread by the childish American right What a bunch of cry babys they dont get there way with the Iraq war and GIs make useless peacekeepers so they label the UN corrupt and evil. Whats next the bible says the UN is the devil?
Ever heard of East Timor of course not because it would make a mocky of the calls to cann the UN.
Note it was Aust and NZ who contributed the bulk of peace keeping forces till other nations took over.
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The American right always chucking a wobby about something.

[edit on 10-4-2005 by xpert11]



posted on Apr, 10 2005 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by cmdrpaddy
the treaty may have been unfair but it was still legally binding.

Legally binding, hah.
More like sign it or I send my soldiers to rape, pillage and burn your cities....
Sorry like but the treaty was a right farce.....Its like saying to the scottish executive you cant place troops on the border.




Also hitler himself is said to have been amazed that there was no action taken by either France or Britain over the remilitarization, and it made him in Germany, it gave him enourmous credibility and made France and Britain look like chumps.

He was within his rights to take back the rhineland...you have to admit.
We couldnt stop czechoslovakia unless the british army plan on going round to italy and attack from there?


I agree with you here but its not just the US that would have problems with it...
I believe the only viable way forward for the world is some sort of world government, in somesort of EU model. I know there are very many people that would be against something like this but i see it as the only way the earth will ever get beyond the pety bickering between nations that goes on now.

The bickering will continue because the people in influence benifit from war.


As my history teacher said "If in 50 years there is no world government, you can dance on my grave".

Better get those danceing shoes ready.....



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
....... and made France and Britain look like chumps.

He was within his rights to take back the rhineland...you have to admit.
We couldnt stop czechoslovakia unless the british army plan on going round to italy and attack from there?
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Yo Beeboy, Hitler didn't make France look like chumps, they did that by themselves hiding behind the "Majino(SP?) line" the one the Nazi's just blew around. As I remember some shy guy named "Churchill" was screaming bloody murder.

The UN has become a beurocracy full of gutless diplomats.



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
Yo Beeboy, Hitler didn't make France look like chumps, they did that by themselves hiding behind the "Majino(SP?) line" the one the Nazi's just blew around. As I remember some shy guy named "Churchill" was screaming bloody murder.

If you want to continue trying to france down , pathetically I might add, then please discontinue posting on this thread since we are trying to discuss this like adults...


The UN has become a beurocracy full of gutless diplomats.

Thats a bit diffrent from "the UN is and always has been evil and currupt" attitude....



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
If you want to continue trying to france down , pathetically I might add, then please discontinue posting on this thread since we are trying to discuss this like adults...

Thats a bit diffrent from "the UN is and always has been evil and currupt" attitude....


Stating the facts of a truely inept and corrupt country like France isn't an attempt at a"pathetic" put down. France has been a world joke for about 200 years.

The original mission of the UN has be corrupted by intrenched beurocrats more interested in lining their own pockets than the actual mandate of the UN for world peace. Peace through strength I might add. Now the entire body has become contaminated buy the silly idealisim of the pathetic liberalism sickness.

A place to "debate" while millions die...............need I list them again?



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
Stating the facts of a truely inept and corrupt country like France isn't an attempt at a"pathetic" put down. France has been a world joke for about 200 years.

Didnt say that during the war of independance.
How are they pathetic?
They have fought well like any nation, they fell a few times but have always picked themselves up.
They are a good people but because they wont stand with you then you hate them....
They have been no joke I can assure you.


The original mission of the UN has be corrupted by intrenched beurocrats more interested in lining their own pockets than the actual mandate of the UN for world peace. Peace through strength I might add. Now the entire body has become contaminated buy the silly idealisim of the pathetic liberalism sickness.

The original mission of the UN still exists...I have seen no world wars after WW2.
Peace through strength leads to war...or do you forget how close things got during the cold war at times?
You idea that the body is contaminated is purely opinion and biased...it holds no weight.


A place to "debate" while millions die...............need I list them again?

A place to orginise and stop wars before millions die....unless ofcourse your now saying that millions of people died in korea?



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 09:06 AM
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you have voted devilwasp for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have used all of your votes for this
month.


I have a theroy Drhoicacid is Anna Coulter or a close relation I reckon its a pretty
good bet.


[edit on 11-4-2005 by xpert11]



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 09:57 AM
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Sir or madam I feel you are on track with the way the USA feels. Do not let the others who for some strange reason forgett or have forgotten why they have the freedom they have now to post what they feel , a it is the GOD given right to speak up on matters of freedom in this country. Liberal thinking is alittle different yet the same in this country , throw money at the problem and that will fix it , sorry to say that will not fix the problem. And if the problem is with the head of an orig. then we here in the USA like to fix that problem where the problem lies. As for the liberal mindset they would rather just throw money at it and say to themselfs , hey we are repairing the problem by giving it more power and money to fix itself. Well like I have said in the last posts it is not going to fix itself and we should , whether we be liberals or conservatives or just plain Americans , just let it die as it is , and not support something that does not even itself.

[edit on 4/11/2005 by zman]



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 11:02 AM
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Zman thats a bit biased and well sorry but just untrue..
Liberals have gone to war and have done just the same ammount of good and bad i will admit things as any other political party.
If this is the attitude of the USA then I feel worried about who I am allied with..



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
Didnt say that during the war of independance.
How are they pathetic?
They have fought well like any nation, they fell a few times but have always picked themselves up.
They are a good people but because they wont stand with you then you hate them....
They have been no joke I can assure you.
The original mission of the UN still exists...I have seen no world wars after WW2.
Peace through strength leads to war...or do you forget how close things got during the cold war at times?
You idea that the body is contaminated is purely opinion and biased...it holds no weight.


A place to "debate" while millions die...............need I list them again?



NO WARS after WWII?


The "french" were thrown ou of every country they tried to colonize.
Vietnam
Algeria
Oh never mind too many to list.

I can remember the french promising to help in 1776 but didn't.
Then they were going to help the confederacy, but didn't.
Ike helped out his arrogant friend in Degaul in vietnam and got the US into a horrible war.
The french are basically worthless in everyway possible.

There was only peace with germany and japan after WWII because they have not the ability to make war. Diplomatic peace is only a postponment of war.



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
NO WARS after WWII?


Small wars are almost impossible to stop, world wars are easier.


The "french" were thrown ou of every country they tried to colonize.
Vietnam
Algeria
Oh never mind too many to list.

So?
You have a problem with this how?


I can remember the french promising to help in 1776 but didn't.
Then they were going to help the confederacy, but didn't.
Ike helped out his arrogant friend in Degaul in vietnam and got the US into a horrible war.

So a few frenchmen are enough to damm an entire country?


The french are basically worthless in everyway possible.

Now thats just opinion and a very biased one.
If it wasnt for them in WW2 we would have had a bigger problem, if not for them WW1 would have been lost to the germans.


There was only peace with germany and japan after WWII because they have not the ability to make war.

So your suggesting that we invade every country and remove thier ability to fight?


Diplomatic peace is only a postponment of war.

No, diplomatic peace is where sides put down thier rifles and talk like human beings.
When was the last time you seen a professional boxer had all his limbs broke so he couldnt fight again?



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 11:38 AM
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Diplomatic peace is only a postponment of war.


Maybe its time people woke up to the fact that it needn't be?



NO WARS after WWII?

If you actually read what was said you would see that he said no world wars.



The french are basically worthless in everyway possible.


If you want to go down to the level of base insults im sure there are inumerable things America has done that are far from savoury and would qualify Americans for the same treatment.



The "french" were thrown ou of every country they tried to colonize. Vietnam Algeria Oh never mind too many to list


As have virtually every other colonial power, except where they were asked to stay. If you want to have losses of colonies as a measure of a countries weakness then surely Britain wins hands down? And they didn't "try" to colonise vietnam or Algeria they did colonise vietnam and algeria.


should I edit out this post?


[edit on 11/4/05 by cmdrpaddy]



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
When was the last time you seen a professional boxer had all his limbs broke so he couldnt fight again?


Sorry didn't think WAR was a 'sport". Analogy denied.

Peace again..........isn't the absence of war, it's the inability to make war.



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
Sorry didn't think WAR was a 'sport". Analogy denied.

What you think or what your opinion is has no bearing on the subject at hand.
Also I dont see boxing as a sport more of a duel between two fighters, which is what war is like.



Peace again..........isn't the absence of war, it's the inability to make war.

I'm sorry but that is rather untrue.
During 1930's there was no war in europe but it could have been waged...well by one side..



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by devilwasp

Originally posted by DrHoracid
Sorry didn't think WAR was a 'sport". Analogy denied.

What you think or what your opinion is has no bearing on the subject at hand.
Also I dont see boxing as a sport more of a duel between two fighters, which is what war is like.



Peace again..........isn't the absence of war, it's the inability to make war.

I'm sorry but that is rather untrue.
During 1930's there was no war in europe but it could have been waged...well by one side..


My opinion is the only one that matters, everyone else is just alway wrong..


But the lack of war in europe in the 1930's proves my point well. It didn't take Germany's ability to make war away by "force". The 'diplomacy" allowed Hitler to build a better war machine and "caused" WWII.

Just like gulf war I didn't take Saddam's ability to make war away, that took GWII. The "diplomacy" after the Iraq/Iran war only helped build up to GWI.



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