I still get the hunch that the word or group called ILLUMINATI is a front to throw conspiracy theory researchers off with front stories.

You mention illuminati, jesuits, and immediately the eyes start rolling. Same thing when you mention freemasons etc.

Probably destractions to hide even a deeper underlying group and philosophy.

Sorry...I had to point out on my last post which was posted at 11:11. This number pops up on an absurd amount of times during the week regularly.

lol... I was watching the UT Colorado game last night. Looked up and they showed the snap clock down the field and it was 11 on one display and 11 on the one in the split screen

New World Order/New Age Movement/2012, etc...all scenarios of this sort are all from the same source. A Secret Society? Yes, many don't believe, more believe it.
SATAN. Satan and his Legion. The Ascended MAster/Galactic Federation of Light.
The beginner of Lies. The Master of Madness. He counterfeits everything of God!

There are many fraternal orders that look separate but in the end work for the same goals. The problem with these secret societies is the OATH. These societies take an oath that if they will never HARM a brother under any circumstance, and that they will AID a brother under any circumstance. This OATH is teaching tribalism. This kind of OATH leads to corruption, cronyism and cover-ups. All these groups have been working to bring about the policies outlined in the master plan "the protocols of the learned elders of Zion" which is to establish a superstate or one world order.

However remember the lesson of the tower of babel. God saw all the people were consolidated into one culture, one language, one government, and one religion and they were all corrupt. So, God instituted the greatest ever "ANTITRUST" policy ever and confounded the languages of the people and scattered them upon the Earth. This should teach us the answer to BIG BUSINESS and BIG BANKS, and BIG PHARMA, is not BIG GOVERNMENT but to stop the consolidation of power and to pull it down and break all these institutions up. There are too many institutions that are "too big for their own breeches"

Remember that these societies play good cop bad cop. they are the ying and the yang. they are the joker (ozymandias) and batman. They are both the white pieces and the blank in the big game of chess. They cause the problems in this world and then they come in and seem to solve them only by instituting policies and laws that consolidate more power into their hands and usurp more of our freedoms telling us its to protect us and its is for our own good, safety and security.

Other secret masonic societies include:

Orangemen: protestant fraternity
Royal Black Institution
Knights of Columbia: catholic fraternity
Opius Dei

Teutonic Knights
York Rite
Scottish Rite

Order of Malta (Beware, They play good cop)
Knights of the Rose Cross/Roscrusians
Shriners, Order of the Shrine

Fight Club: Dont talk about Fight Club
Straight Edge

HI,i am a freemason what you see on the web is fake and is not truth if need info on mason ask me if i can tell you.......lol

I have a buddy who recently became a Mason - within 8 months he has reached the 3rd degree. He called me 15 minutes ago to tell me, 'by the way, I can take a 12-hour class and become 33rd degree'.

WTF?

Regardless, ever since he joined he seems obsesssed with telling me how genuine the organization is and that they aren't involved in ANY of the tomfoolery we discuss here.

His is more like a Shriner group, only interested in doing deeds for the community, etc.

I never claimed that the Masons were a sinister group. Merely, that Masons - many, and on their own accord, NOT through their Lodge, necessarily - seem to be involved in a lot of 'things'. Not only that, but not all Masons are the same, and it goes far beyond Scottish or York...and, certainly teaching s that would be exposed to a new member.

Do any of those titles address Member pre- or mis- conceptions BUT ASLO why there is so much scrutiny surrounding them?

Their involvement, or rather the involvement of their members, seems to permeate every political and religious platform, yet politics and religion are two topics that are strictly forbidden to discuss (at the meetings)

It's all very confusing.

Originally posted by SquirrelNutz
I have a buddy who recently became a Mason - within 8 months he has reached the 3rd degree. He called me 15 minutes ago to tell me, 'by the way, I can take a 12-hour class and become 33rd degree'.

Well he's off by one. You can take a 12 hour class and become a 32nd degree, but the 33rd is an honor that takes at least 8 years to achieve in most areas.

Now that you mention it, that does sound like what he said (32nd) - I was just so shocked at the rest, that I kind of tuned that part out, I guess.

What about Aleister Crowley's lineage of mystery schools? They are not on the list.

Hello everybody, I have looked at quite a few pages but I have not seen anything about the EL.
Maybe somebody can help.
Thanks.

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Is there one that quotes "Artur Edward Waite" from his publishing "A New Encyclopaedia Of Freemasonry"???
In particular section D: Noting the 99 Degrees of Freemasonry...