Actually, history tells us "yes". If you've worked in the PV industry -- or are familiar with its history -- you'll recall that, in the 1980's most of the PV companies were owned either in whole or in part by oil companies. Think ARCO Solar, Mobil Solar, and my then-employer, Solavolt International, a joint venture between Motorola (my employer of record) and Shell Oil.

The oil companies saw (and rightly, IMNHO) that PV might be something for them to get into, and they invested millions and millions of dollars. They, like the rest of us, were seduced by the belief that oil prices would continue to rise and rise and rise, and the cost of PV would drop dramatically. Sooner rather than later, the two lines would cross and the oil companies would be in a good place to exploit the new, cheap (and profitable) PV.

Unfortunately, it didn't work out that way; all the PURPA subisidies went away and it simply wasn't getting to the point where the costs were going down quick enough for PV to make that magic jump to economies of scale.

Finally, in the late eighties, the oil companies pulled out and wrote off their investment. It wasn't until fifteen or so years later (~2000) that the costs started to come down; by then, Siemens, Kyocera, and a bunch of nimble startups had managed to get most of the consumer market.

The point is that the oil companies are not going to get involved in this Huge Secret And Sinister Plot to kill off all the PV engineers (look at me -- I'm still alive!!) any more than they would've implemented another Huge Secret And Sinister Plot to hide the Magic 100-MPG Carburetor that never existed. The oil companies are going to try to get a piece of the pie as long as they believe it will pay off; if it won't (in their view), then they're going to get out of the market.

Not everything is a conspiracy, you know.

TeslaandLyne, do you have a schematic of that device, I'd like to try to build it. If it emits radiation, there is always lead.

Originally posted by XL5
TeslaandLyne, do you have a schematic of that device, I'd like to try to build it. If it emits radiation, there is always lead.

If you sign on to the group you get as much info as there is around.
See the files and photo sections.
Even the FES document and others and perhaps ask others if that have better instructors.
The photo and perhaps other photos show the operation.
A neon sign 7kDC was applied to the pips and there seems to be meters connected.
If I recall right.
There were recent messages about the Smith fellow who powered a Coke machine.
A group from Japan saw the Lyne book lying around the Smith lab for the demo for
a contract and thought they could do with out Smith who put a coil around the pipe
as a power tap. I don't think they got too far with out Smith.
ED: There is a lot of physics in the iron pipe experiment K capture.
Iron transforms to manganese due to proton becoming a neutron.
Then the iron goes back to iron and all the while there is free energy from what
is said.

I like Annee's idea for synth fuels based on transforming our garbage from landfills. I think that's a step in the right direction.

Otherwise I'm for solar, wind and fuel cells in the form of rechargeable and recyclable batteries. I'm for using these to power your house, business and everything in them - with no power lines feeding the greed and corruption of the power companies.

Only wind and solar are sustainable enough where we don't have to use up resources to get energy from them - accept for the wind turbines and solar cells materials themselves. These we use to charge the batteries.

There are now wind turbine designs that are very good, solar cells are getting better more powerful and batteries well - they could be very cheap and powerful one day soon. Lithium Phosphate Iron ( LiFePo4) Battery technology is the best rechargeable battery on the planet. Problem is, it's not cheap and only China makes these with China's vast supply of Lithium. There are companies now starting to make plants that can extract/convert ( however they do it) Lithium from sea water. It's a much cheaper way to produce the Lithium needed for the batteries.

With this combination of solar, wind and batteries we can build whole self sustaining communities off the grid and not have to use up resources.

I'd also get some groovy Tesla technology developed.

TeslaandLyne, I don't want to sign up for a group just to get the info. If that group has a problem with info getting out, then too bad for them I guess.

Originally posted by XL5
TeslaandLyne, I don't want to sign up for a group just to get the info. If that group has a problem with info getting out, then too bad for them I guess.

It is definitely a way to track people down.
If the wonder device suddenly appear on the market all the parties involved might
be looked at to see if the plans were down loaded from the group files section.
The mechanism of course would be easy to spot and no need for spy work
but if one happened along make sure there is no copy of the document lying
around for the spy to take a photo record and seal the deal.
Its not patented but any kit that is patented is perhaps not a permission to build.
I don't recall what the outcome of that discussion was.

Slowly, but surely, the United States is slipping from the top-most ranks of the first world countries and it is due to greed and the uncontrolled capitalism that has left rotten the foundation of our society.