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reply posted on 8-4-2005 @ 04:09 AM by Cynic

Originally posted by Event Horizon

Originally posted by BillHicksRules
Have a look around the western world and look at who the leading companes are in Renewable Energy sources, they are not US owned companies. In fact one of the leaders owns several US companies.

Who is leading the industry? Can you name a few? Im curious to know. I know Canada has been working hard on hydrogen fuel cells and so far they are making pretty good progress. I have done a little searching and noticed that a lot of the companies are from Canada and Europe.

Ballard Power in British Columbia is on the verge of breaking through this time. Proudly Canadian!!! ( as am I )

Now if we can just keep our hands on the technology and avoid another AVRO ARROW disgrace, Canada will take it's rightfull place as the warm and fuzzy leader of the free world.

My name is Cynic, and I AM CANADIAN. (off to the fridge for yet another brew!)

Cheers!!!

reply posted on 8-4-2005 @ 08:21 AM by BillHicksRules

Cynic,

There are some new windfarms going up in New York State and they are being put there by a Scottish firm, Scottish Power.

Cheers

BHR

reply posted on 8-4-2005 @ 03:18 PM by Linux

We don't know how to make such an energy transition on a global scale, it would require alot fundamental changes and it'd probably need universe approval before it started to catch on. It would have to be as dependable as oil with an abundant supply.

What about other governments which have probably contemplated this as well, they could be preparing alternatives too correct? That would render a hole in your thesis.

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reply posted on 8-4-2005 @ 03:45 PM by syrinx high priest

the idea is sound, the logistics a nightmare ! how do you effectively wean 6 billion people off oil and onto an alternative at the right time, with the equipment, training and resources, and keep it out of others countries hands ???
we can't even keep countries from developing nukes, how do we prevent them from developing solar power ? bombs ?

whew, theres a project for ya.....and wouldn't the other countries see the shortage coming ?

reply posted on 8-4-2005 @ 07:43 PM by Event Horizon

The reason I know this is possible is because back in World War II the United States did everything they could to keep a secret from the world. They kept this secret so well that even the US citizens had no idea what was going on. This secret, when revealed to the world, changed it forever. The Manhattan Project was one of most secret operations in the history of the United States. That secrecy assured that we would be the first atomic superpower, for better or worse. That secret ended a war with Japan. We used that as leverage to control the world.

Do I think it’s possible that the US could have a secret project just as big as that, of course, it would be ignorant not too.

Originally posted by Paul
Theoretically its possible. There are some potential alternatives, such as cold fusion (another link) for example, which could provide us with plentiful and clean energy. Its also quite possible that it is being supressed, at any cost: remember Dr. Eugene F. Mallove?
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Yes, Paul I do agree. Cold Fusion energy could be in the works and yes I’m sure it would be kept a secret at all costs. I also think that Zero Point energy is also being worked on. Both of these technologies, if they are in fact to be true, could change the world again, for better or worse.

reply posted on 8-4-2005 @ 10:17 PM by syrinx high priest

"The reason I know this is possible is because back in World War II the United States did everything they could to keep a secret from the world."

survey says....X

dropping a bomb is just a little different from converting the entire globes energy consumption to something only we have. are any of the energy sources you mention a secret or exclusively ours ?

reply posted on 8-4-2005 @ 11:03 PM by Event Horizon

dropping a bomb is just a little different from converting the entire globes energy consumption to something only we have. are any of the energy sources you mention a secret or exclusively ours?

Dropping the bomb is not the point. The point is that the US kept it a secret until they dropped it.

are any of the energy sources you mention a secret or exclusively ours?

Are they secret? Are they ours?

Your guess is as good as mine.

I have no idea what the United States Government is up too, much less other countries. If it has perfected either Zero Point or Cold Fusion it is very likely that they will not disclose it for reasons already stated.

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reply posted on 9-4-2005 @ 06:39 PM by Linux

Originally posted by Event Horizon
Yes, Paul I do agree. Cold Fusion energy could be in the works and yes I’m sure it would be kept a secret at all costs. I also think that Zero Point energy is also being worked on. Both of these technologies, if they are in fact to be true, could change the world again, for better or worse.

See if you included these in your original post i'd be more inclined to believe. Correct me if im wrong but hasn't Cold Fusion presented more problems then its worth?

reply posted on 9-4-2005 @ 07:32 PM by syrinx high priest

where do I get a car that runs on cold fusion ?

will my home be heated by cold fusion ?

how do we sell it without it proliferating ?

reply posted on 10-4-2005 @ 02:07 AM by akilles

Maybe they just want to control all the drill sites, and thats why they tell us that oil is running out, and they have to have control of all drill sites.

An elaborate ploy, just to validate their rationing of gas to the peoples, at exorbitant prices.

Any one wants to know why controlling the drill sites is important?

"There have been numerous reports in recent times, of oil and gas fields NOT running out at the expected time, but instead showing a higher content of hydrocarbons after they had already produced more than the initially estimated amount.

This has been seen in the Middle East, in the deep gas wells of Oklahoma, on the Gulf of Mexico coast, and in other places. It is this apparent REFILLING during production that has been responsible for the series of gross underestimate of reserves that have been published time and again, the most memorable being the one in the early seventies that firmly predicted the end of oil and gas globally by 1987, a prediction which produced an energy crisis and with that a huge shift in the wealth of nations.

Refilling is an item of the greatest economic significance, and also a key to understanding what the sources of all this petroleum had been. It is also of practical engineering importance, since we may be able to exercise some control over the refilling process.

The debate about the origin of all the petroleum on Earth lies in the center of the subject. If we really knew that it is only biological materials, which, in their decay, could produce hydrocarbons, then the quanities that could ever be produced would be limited by the biological content of the sediments."

"If we accept the fact, now known full well, that hydrocarbons are a common constituent of the cosmos and the planetary condensations that formed in it, then we have a totally different viewpoint."

Oil cannot correctly be called a FOSSIL FUEL by this definition!

www.people.cornell.edu...

reply posted on 14-4-2005 @ 08:18 AM by BillHicksRules

Event

Originally posted by Event Horizon
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Dropping the bomb is not the point. The point is that the US kept it a secret until they dropped it.

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They actually did not keep it that much of a secret. They simply kept it from the proles.

Cheers

BHR

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