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Originally posted by jsobecky
This is creeping me out. So y'all are saying that an UNembalmed body does not decompose as would one that has been embalmed?
Cutting off a finger years after death and it bleeds?
Not embalming so as to prove that the embalming procedure wasn't the cause of death?
And what does this have to do with sainthood?
Originally posted by Bobbo
read the whole thread, it's explained. check out the links on father baker, that'll enlighten you a bit more.
basically, the pope's not embalmed, is starting to look bad, and we're trying to figure out why they went without the procedure.
It doesn't even look as though they preserved him with formalin- it usually gives the same appearance as a full embalming.
They said on television the reason he was not embalmed is because they plan to canonize him and they could not canonize him if he were embalmed.
John Paul's corpse was not embalmed, Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said this week, but did undergo treatment to preserve it during public viewing.
Vatican officials indicated that the procedure involved the injection of a formaldehyde-based fluid, which falls short of a full embalming process.
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Posthumous papal misfortune continued into modern times. In 1958, Pope Pius XII's pre-death agony was photographed by an unscrupulous physician and the pictures splashed on the front pages of Italian newspapers.
The luckless Pius XII was not only tabloid fodder because of the clandestine photos; his body also decomposed significantly before burial. Accounts from the time describe his corpse turning "emerald green'' and stolid Swiss Guards fainting from the smell.
When papal aides instructed that Pope Paul VI be only lightly embalmed upon his death in 1978, they failed to take Rome's steamy summertime weather into account. After two days on public display in the August heat, the body began to putrefy.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I hadn't heard of venting, but I'm hoping they vent that gas somewhere besides the room where everyone is, otherwise it would be most unpleasant.
ROME (AP) - Pope John Paul II's body was probably lightly embalmed before being exposed for public viewing for four days ahead of his funeral and burial, a Rome embalmer said Friday.
Massimo Signoracci, whose family embalmed three previous popes but was not involved in John Paul's preparations, said some kind of treatment had to be done to allow the body to be displayed on an open platform inside St. Peter's Basilica.
"For a four-day viewing, injections of formaldehyde and other preserving liquids are necessary," Signoracci told The Associated Press, cautioning that he could not be certain what had been done without examining the body.
The Vatican has said John Paul's body was not embalmed, only "prepared" for viewing by hundreds of thousands of mourners, refusing to elaborate on the procedure used.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
So you can keep the vent open when the body is not in view, but plug it up when it is?
Personally, I'm not very sentimental when it comes to human remains. I have never visited a cemetery on my own to go to a grave of a family member or friend, and I really prefer to have my memories of a person as living and not stuffed into a box.
I've given my body to The Living Bank and when I went home recently my mother and father expressed their disapproval at my decision, even though I made that donation 33 years ago. I made arrangements to have my remains disposed of at no cost to my family and have them used to help others, but if my family chose to intervene and insist on my burial, it would be at their expense and why would I care? I would be dead.
There's way to much sentimentality when it come to this mortal coil, in my humble opinion.