posted on Jul, 23 2003 @ 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Meesha
do you, really, think that cobra and super cobra are the ONLY weapons russian fighters have, mr. Seekerof? don't play stupid - this manuevers (not
shure if i wrote it right) are just an airshow "try to do after me" stuff... not more... hope you never will be in cockpit of MiG-31's poor target
far beyond visual range )
Nothing personal taken Mr. Meesha...
I'm certainly glad you admitted what was other-wise obvious to many.....the maneuvers has no value other than "air show" bravado. Being it has
been done at virtually every airshow since its inception, the aircraft(s) can only perform this at very low --- near stall -- speeds. I will admit
that I recently found out that these aircraft can do it with partial loads. This was a mistake on my part for stating that they could only do them
with no weapons payload and less than half fuel tanks.
I do find it a bit humorous that you conclude that you hope I am not in a aircraft cockpit that is being locked on by a Mig-31....if I misunderstood
what you meant, please feel free to explain...I had a little difficulty understanding the last bit you said. As to the Russian's having other
"abilities" other than these maneuvers at their disposal....all I can say, is don't state what is otherwise obvious. If you wish to engage in
discussion on the particulars of what "other" things the Russians have at their disposal, by all means, bring them up and lets discuss them.
As I can see by the "patting of the back" that a couple posters gave you, I am assuming that many contend that I was erring in bringing this subject
I'm assuming that me stating that I was not belittling Russian aircraft nor the maneuver in general was obviously missed! I brought this subject up
to engage in discussion of the application of this maneuver(s) in light of current a2a "real" world environments.....and have yet to have anyone to
fully answer the questions. As par, people continue to mis-read this topic and have used it to engage me on "bravado's."
No problem, perhaps someone will see the topic for its value and for the questions I have put forth. I do find it a bit odd that many that have
claimed otherwise have yet to post and that many that are posting here, other than "patting others on the back," are also yet to post to the
questions asked. Again, no matter, I will certainly entertain any opinions to this topic and reply to them likewise.