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Originally posted by google_abcd
Considering the family (husband/wife,parents,son/daughter) of CCP members and the entry level of CCP, Communist Youngth Union which consisted 75% of Chinese students, the percentage of firm supporter of CCP might be up to 30-40%.
And I really doubt the number of persons who quit CCP are real. I have asked many Chinese people and none of them believe there are 5 million people, as the guys from FaLunGong claim, quit the CCP.
I also noticed that these days millions of Chinese people left their messages in the BBS, forum , saying that Mr. Chen is absolutly a traitor to China and should be sentenced to death. If Mr. Chen dare go back to China, they would like to kill him themselves.
It is my understanding that the membership numbers include the affiliated groups such as the Youth League. If the CCP can truly claim a 35-40% support rate then now is the time for them to begin democracy. Those are numbers to be envied for some governments.
They are entitled to their opinion, as is Mr. Chen. I guess that for his sake it was a good thing Australia gave him asylum. Mr. Chen says he loves his country but his conscience wouldn't allow him to continue providing information that could result in persecution. He knows the general public hates him now, but hopes that eventually one day they they will understand.
Since you fellows bought up Dr. Sun Yat-Sen, we have a classical Chinese garden in Vancouver named for him, and it is beautiful. .
Originally posted by google_abcd
Surely the 5.5% only refers to the actual number of CCP member because in China most guys working in government and many workers/officers in company owned by China government are CCP members.
As for Youth League, 75% x current Chinese student number( might be 50 million to 100 million), then it should be already 75 million.
So good. I think I will visit Vancouver one day
Originally posted by google_abcd
I also noticed that these days millions of Chinese people left their messages in the BBS, forum , saying that Mr. Chen is absolutly a traitor to China and should be sentenced to death. If Mr. Chen dare go back to China, they would like to kill him themselves.
...there are 2 very famous universities and 4 best hospitals are named for honorific Dr. Sun Yat-Sen.
Originally posted by Duzey
Originally posted by google_abcd
Surely the 5.5% only refers to the actual number of CCP member because in China most guys working in government and many workers/officers in company owned by China government are CCP members.
As for Youth League, 75% x current Chinese student number( might be 50 million to 100 million), then it should be already 75 million.
Great. Then they are that much closer to having a democratic voter base.
Kidding aside, if the CCP has the support, why not make the move? The benefits that will be gained far outweigh any negatives for them. So they will have to give up the persecution of religious groups and allow freedom of speech.
In one fell swoop the CCP could get most of the world of its back, gain the support of the Vatican and invite everyone to come invest in the country and create work for lots of people. This move would also help with Taiwan in the long run. All this and they could still keep control of the country for at least 50 more years, if not longer.
And they could do it all saying it is their idea, so that they don't feel like people will think they were forced into it.
So good. I think I will visit Vancouver one day
You should definitely visit. All the Chinese tourists I've seen look like they're enjoying themselves. The Chinese have been in our city right from the start and you can see the influences the culture had almost everywhere.
In some areas the street signs are written in Chinese and English.
Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
I decided to update the Mao propaganda poster to make it more faithful to the great Chairman Mao's legacy. Hindsight being 20/20 and all...
Just wondering why you like to mention the things from time to time here?
1. Concoction of Doctrines and Elimination of Dissidents
The Communist Party holds up Marxism as its religious doctrine and shows it off as “the unbreakable truth.” The doctrines of the Communist Party lack benevolence and tolerance. Instead, they are full of arrogance. Marxism was a product of the initial period of capitalism when productivity was low and science was under-developed. It didn’t have a correct understanding at all of the relationships between humanity and society or humanity and nature. Unfortunately, this heretical ideology developed into the international communist movement, and harmed the human world for over a century before the people discarded it, having found it completely wrong in practice.
Party leaders since Lenin have always amended the cult’s doctrines. From Lenin’s theory of violent revolution to Mao Zedong’s theory of continuous revolution under the dictatorship of the proletariat, to Jiang Zemin’s “Three Represents,” the Communist Party’s history is full of such heretical theory and fallacy. Although these theories have constantly caused disasters in practice and are self-contradictory, the Communist Party still proclaims it is universally correct and forces the people to study its doctrines.
Eliminating dissidents is the most effective means for the evil cult of communism to spread its doctrine. Because the doctrine and behavior of this evil cult are too ridiculous, the communist party has to force people to accept them, relying on violence to eliminate dissidents. After the Chinese Communist Party seized the reins of power in China, it initiated “land reform” to eliminate the landlord class, the “socialist reform” in industry and commerce to eliminate capitalists, the “movement of purging reactionaries” to eliminate folk religions and officials who held office before the communists took power, the “anti-rightist movement” to silence intellectuals, and the “Great Cultural Revolution” to eradicate traditional Chinese culture. The CCP was able to unify China under the communist evil cult and achieve a situation where everyone read the Red Book, performed the “loyalty dance,” and “asked for the Party’s instructions in the morning and reported to the Party in the evening.” In the period after Mao and Deng’s reigns, the CCP asserted that Falun Gong, a traditional cultivation practice that believes in Truthfulness, Compassion and Tolerance, would compete with it for the masses and so intended to eradicate Falun Gong. It therefore initiated a genocidal persecution of Falun Gong, which continues today.
2. Promotion of Leader Worship and Supremacist Views
From Marx to Jiang Zemin, the Communist Party leaders’ portraits are prominently displayed for worship. The absolute authority of the Communist Party leaders forbids any challenge. Mao Zedong was set up as the “red sun” and “big liberator.” The Party spoke outrageously about his writing, saying “one sentence equals 10,000 ordinary sentences.” As an “ordinary party member,” Deng Xiaoping once dominated Chinese politics like an overlord. Jiang Zemin’s “Three Represents” theory is merely a little over 40 characters long including punctuation, but the CCP Fourth Plenary Session boosted it as “providing a creative answer to questions such as what socialism is, how to construct socialism, what kind of party we are building and how to build the Party.” The Party also spoke outrageously about the thought of the “Three Represents,” although in this case actually mocking it when saying it is a continuation and development of Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought and Deng Xiaoping Theory.
Stalin’s wanton slaughter of innocent people, the catastrophic “Great Cultural Revolution” launched by Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping’s order for the Tiananmen massacre and Jiang Zemin’s ongoing persecution of Falun Gong are the dreadful results of the Communist Party’s heretical dictatorship.
On one hand, the CCP stipulates in its Constitution, “All power in the People’s Republic of China belongs to the people. The organs through which the people exercise state power are the National People’s Congress and the local people’s congresses at different levels.” “No organization or individual may enjoy the privilege of being above the Constitution and the law.” [2] On the other hand, the CCP Charter stipulates that the CCP is the core of the leadership for the Chinese-featured socialist cause, overriding both the country and the people. The chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress made “important speeches” across the country, claiming that the National People’s Congress, the highest organ of state power, must adhere to the CCP’s leadership. According to the CCP’s principle of “democratic centralism,” the entire party must obey the Central Committee of the Party. Stripped to its core, what the National People’s Congress really insists upon is the dictatorship of the General Secretary, which is in turn protected in the form of legislation.
3. Violent Brainwashing, Mind Control, Tight Organization and No Quitting Once Admitted
4. Urging Violence, Carnage and Sacrifice for the Party
Originally posted by suihx
in China, one join CCP often not because he/she believes in communism(actually, I doubt if there is any adlut communism-believer in China,even within the CCP, communism has already been actually abondoned), often is that he/she may get benefits from this(especially in government or pulicly-owned enterprises), or just follow others.
Originally posted by suihx
So if there be an election, it is very doubtable for whom those CCP members will vote.Democray will do great good to china ,but not to those CCP senior officers. and since they holds the Army, they also needn't risk its power to go into democracy.
Originally posted by suihx
as for Mr. Chen, he is a traitor to the CCP,(I guess he is a party-member).but not China,in any respect, he is much better then those CCP officers who run away with a large sum of money.those are really traitors to China and their number is quite large, I really don't understand why those "patriots" so eager to "kill" Mr Chen yet ignoring them, seemingly they love China very selectively.
Originally posted by google_abcd
One current problem is that all other parties in China are too weak to take part in the government. Also with such a low educated rate in China it is not easy to have democratic voter in the next few years. A direct vote of 1.4 billion population people will be a nightmare for the economic increasement.
Originally posted by google_abcd
These kinds of concept perfectly match the core of Chinese philosophy:
The Doctrine of Mean.
When one cultivates to the utmost the principles of his nature, and exercises them on the principle of reciprocity, he is not far from the path. What you do not like when done to yourself, do not do to others.
Originally posted by google_abcd
Because of the greate gap between eastern culture and western culture China won't fully accept the democracy from western countries. Chinese people will try to absorb the useful ideas and abandom the unuseful ones or what they think might be bad to them.
Originally posted by google_abcd
Few months ago, I heard that Canada will open its travael market to China later. If so it will be a good news to both Canadian and Chinese people.