I wish there were a way to separate the leader from the people as far as hatred goes, but trying to think of America as seperate from Bush would be
like trying to think of Nazi Germany as seperate from Hitler. All I can say is that, in 2008 we will elect a new leader, and, God willing, one that
isn't such an incredible arse in the eyes of the rest of the world.
All of us wish that. But it happen always that people judge the WHOLE community because of leaders.
And I know that more than half of Americans are against Bush. But the same thing happen to Muslims. Most of them are against BinLaden, but people
think that they and their religion is BinLaden!
However, while I will not deny there are "children" out there who are just as capable of evil as adults, I don't know that I could hold a child
accountable for the crimes of the parent. If a man killed my child, I would visit justice on him, not his child. By the same token, if a child killed
my fiance, I would visit the justice on the child, and not the father.
First, If you look through the attacks of Palestinians against Israel, you will see most of it addressing the cities that were belong to
Palestinians.
Second, I believe that ALL Israelis who are staying on our land are like soldiers. They put themselves under risk. Their example is like the example
of soldiers who are bringing their babies to the battle. Islam prohibit killing children, women, old, and innocents in any way. But those Israelis who
are living in OUR lands are NOT innocents.
They are like the descendants of the group that attacked your home and killed, raped, arrested, etc.
Would you call them innocents too???
And what about if they are still killing your relatives even after they occupied your home!!
Brother, you have to feel the pressure from all sides that Palestinians are experienced which lead them to do suicide bombing.
And by the way, Palestinians did no more than around 30 suicide bombings that killed couple of hundred of Jews. BUT look how many massacres Israeilis
done to them:
www.palestinehistory.com...
And look how many attacks they did against their villages and cities, how many thousand of people they kille, and how many tens of thousands they
arrested!
www.palestinehistory.com...
ALL what Palestinians are doing to Israel cannot equal to 1/1000 of what they’ve done to them!
And the irony is when somebody comes and says Palestinians are the terrorists and those Jews are the white dove!!
While I can understand the immediate association, is it fair to kill them too? How about the innocent tourist, or journalist who wants nothing more
than to observe, and tell the world back home what goes on?
The problem with bombs is that they are indiscriminate. They don't explode and then only kill the soldiers and settlers that stole Palestinian land,
they explode and kill whomever takes enough damage from the blast. It is an unjust way to wage war, a cowards way to fight a war, and does absolutely
nothing to garner the Palestinians sympathy.
Killing Jews who are coming as pilgrimage is PROHIBITTED. And killing the journalist or any one who is not involving in occupying our lands is
PROHIBITTED. I am with you in that point.
Now, to be fair, I invite you to read up on Jewish history. Throughout the entire world, they have had their people slaughtered, their possessions
confiscated, their lands seized, their homes burned, and what did they do? If they fought, the results were so crushing it made the thought of
fighting inconceivable... so they moved to friendlier lands that, for a time, tolerated them, until a new leader came to power, and started the whole
process over again.
All humanity is sorry deeply to what happened to Jews especially under the cursed leader Hitler. BUT is that an excecuse for those Jews to do to
Palestinians what they did?
The story of Jews in Palestine didn’t happen as you said!
This what the Wekipedia Encyclopedia (which is American or English) states about Palestine at that time
en.wikipedia.org...
Read the Declaration of Balfour
en.wikipedia.org...
And read about the refugees of Palestinians because of srael
en.wikipedia.org...
Do Palestine have to pay what the devil Hitler did to the Jews! Is that a logic execuse!
I don't mean to sound as if I do not sympathize with Palestine's situation, for they are going through much the same as my ancestors did. However, I
think their method of retaliation is shameful and barbaric. They do have another choice. They can leave the land, with their families, in another part
of Palestine, and then fight with words, using the media, the U.N., lobbyists, whatever legal ways are possible, and fight for reparations.
I know that what happened to Native American is worse than what happen to Palestinians. But if Palestinians did as the Indians did when some of them
believed the whites, then Palestinians would end like Indians.
And again, how can you call what Palestinian did is barbaric!
Again I am asking you to calculate the number of those who killed from both sides! THE number of Palestinians is about 100,000 while the number of
Israelis is no more than 3,000!
And then you are saying that Palestinians are the barbaric!
Regarding what you say about the U.N and the other “legal” ways, BROTHER, are you still believing UN!!!!
Whenever there is something against Israel, USA use the veto!
Read how many times did the slave of USA (((UN))) condemn Israel and then USA used the irony tool of “veto”
www.action-for-un-renewal.org.uk...
This is from a Jew site.
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...
Do you want Palestinians to believe this nasty UN!
Brother, if there is a way to deal with that Israel other than the resistance, we would do it. But unfortunately, all the world is either don’t care
or will be shut up because of USA veto, or is follower to the god of power ((USA)))!!
This brought a smile of relief to my face. There's still hope for peace between us, then, unless the Bush Dynasty finds a way to outlaw non-Christian
religions... in which case, I'll be moving the hell out of America.
We are friends. But as usually happen, people pay the stupid decisions of their leaders.
This I totally understand. And while I root for our troops, and hope and pray they will return home safely, I loathe the man who sent them to Iraq.
War is fought by soldiers on both sides, it is their job, and thusly, when they die, it is expected, but still mourned.
We all mourn those youth who are dying for no reasons except to fill the stomach of the filthy pig “Bush” may Allah curse him and curse who accept
what he is doing.
That saddens me, because I have no animosity at all towards Muslims. Palestinians, yes, for reasons I've already stated, but I rather like
Muslims.
But that is unfortunately the reality.
If many Americans right now are hating oe at least suspecting Arabs and Muslims because of what the idiot Osama done to them, then why would you be
surprised if Arabs and Muslims will hate or suspect Americans after all what the American government is doing!!!
And a quick notice, WHY Muslims don’t hate Germany, Sweden, Norway, Latvia, Finland, etc??
(blink)... Israel has 200 nuclear bombs? Good Lord!
What do you mean ? I don’t understand
If you don’t believe that, then hear what the recent news in BBC say.
news.bbc.co.uk...
www.palestinemonitor.org...
Now, actually, those were the results of two companies: Anteon International, and CACI, Inc. They, like DynCorp, are what epitomizes the very idea of
an Evil Multinational Corporation. And as far as I'm concerned, they can both rot in all the hells humanity has ever dreamt of. They disgust
Americans (the ones that know about them, at least) as well as those abroad, and if we had any power to stop them, we would.
I know that noble Americans (who are more than the half) are disgust of what those nasty troop done in iraq. And we saw the people shouting and saying
((FIRE RAMSFELD))
But as I told you, ordinary and non Educated people will think that all Americans are like that!
For which we are very grateful, and our own religious and political leaders (Bush aside) urge us not to do anything stupid and start lynch mobs.
Thank you for all wise priests who are urge you not to do anything stupid. And that will show you that what join Muslims and Christians is much more
than what separate them.
Bush is not America. He's barely over 50% of America, and there's a chance even that was rigged. His approval rating is the lowest in history, and
less than half a year into his re-election, people who were die-hards for him are now scratching their heads and wondering what the hell they were
thinking.
America is not Bush. In much the same way that Israel is not Ariel Sharon, and he is not Israel. In fact, the two have about the same backing right
now, which is to say, the nutjobs and the stubborn hard-core. Everyone else is disgusted with them both.
Bush is not America. YES I AGREE 100%.
Ariel Sharon is not Israel. I DON’T AGREE 100%. Because all of those Israelis are supporting what Israelis are doing to our people and still staying
on our lands as if it is their land from the dawn of history!
Now as for us supporting Israel, well... that's really not going to change as long as Palestine keeps committing terrorist acts. This is simple
logic.
Well, as for us opposing Israel, that's really not going to change as long as Israelis keeps committing terrorist acts. This is simple LOGIC.
Killing 100,000, kicking 900,000, arresting hundred of thousands, and veto game is not terrorism but killing 3,000 stealers is a terrorism. WHAT A
JOKE!
The closest I ever come to fitting your reasons is that I have Jewish friends and relatives, most of which have, at one point, gone on a religious
pilgramige to Israel, but on the flip side, I have Muslim friends whom have been to Mecca. I don't have any Muslim relatives that I know of, but
that's simply a roll of the dice.
I do not hate Muslims for siding with Palestine.
Yet I am hated because my country sides with Israel.
I am hated, along with millions of my countrymen, because of these things I have no control over.
Do you see the double-standards?
Again I am telling you.
Many Americans do hate us even though we are GAAINST that idiot Osama. I have Christian friends because Syria has (10% of Christians) and I would have
Jew friends iif they are against what Israel done to us.
The peace between Muslims and Americans is on, and thus you see many mosques spread all around USA.
But as USA is supporting what Israel is doing to Palestinians, there will still be sensitive relationships from both sides even though many Americans
are not involving in that.
I don’t hate you even if you are to the side of Israel because simply I think that many Americans are misinformed about the reality of that ugly
conflict.
In a conclusion,
USA and Muslim countries will still in peace even if USA is supporting Israel (because it is not the only one). But when USA is canceling many UN
reports by the VETO, attacking Iraq and maybe other lands, supporting the terrorist Sharon (may Allah curse him), THEN it is like declaring a clear
war against all Muslims. And obviously the relations between two sides will be sensitive.
And again, I want you to see why Muslims don’t hate Germany, Sweden, Norway, Spain, even though they are with Israel???
The answer is they are only with Israel side but NOT supporting Israel crimes as Bush do.
And since many Americans are against Israel crimes and many Muslims are against Osama’s crimes, THEN WE ARE BROTHERS AND FRIENDS despite what our
governments would do.
1.So its ok for Muslims, To come to our lands, ie The west, and some of those muslims plan to kill us, but we cant come to your lands and do the same?
Double standards are awsome.
Hell if ya wanna be mad at anyone you should be mad at Osama, had he not pulled his sht, we would have never been in that region, thus bush wouldnt
have so easily been able to convince the u.s to invade iraq.
Have I said that Muslims should attack the west ??? and have I said that Osama is right ??? And have I said that Americans are criminals??
Please read what I said before you start cursing.
4.We dont go to the U.N for permission, nor do we take the U.N's commands, we seek aproval, If they dont approve then well thats fine, we will do it
at our own expense, like we did.
You are simply wrong
Read how many times did the slave of USA (((UN))) condemn Israel and then USA used the irony tool of “veto”
www.action-for-un-renewal.org.uk...
This is from a Jew site.
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...
6.Lies? what lies? Did he get bad INTEL? yes, did he lie?, you nor anyone else knows that, but the bush admin.
Where are the mass destruction weapons in Iraq that makes Bush to attack us ???????
Ok, only fair, Non iraqi's cant complain about abu graib, non palestinians
cant complain about isreal
Have you made a survey that cover all the 27,000,000 Iraqis and the 2,000,000 Palestinians??
