The Most Compelling Information...(Disclosure Project)

Originally posted by Vertu
Probably there is market for a $10000 membership in this area, I guess the scammer is now a millionaire. Don't you think? I really mean that it is easy to make millions of dollars just by convincing someone about the fake truth. Everyone is just a human, and huge money may swap hands in any minute if you are capable to think the way he wants you to think.

I prefer not to make my money off the gullibility of others. Other people have shown they have no difficulty with living off the backs of other people. Two types of people: ones that care about others and ones that don't.

Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
Two types of people: ones that care about others and ones that don't.

Possibly if Money comes easy, you would have no choice. Take it, or leave it. Well, I must choose the first one. I'm rich!

The witnesses, about 400, are willing, or were, to testify before congresse under oath that it was all true.
This is what makes me think.
How is it that so many people and the majority of them are grandpas, aged people, let themselves in such a "business"?
If so, this is a really huge false Project.

Originally posted by Vertu

Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
Two types of people: ones that care about others and ones that don't.

Possibly if Money comes easy, you would have no choice. Take it, or leave it. Well, I must choose the first one. I'm rich!

And what are you doing with your riches? Just posting on ATS? Buying stuff to make you feel better about yourself?

I know the difficulty in making money without taking advantage of other people. I guess I just like a challenge.

Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
And what are you doing with your riches? Just posting on ATS? Buying stuff to make you feel better about yourself?

I know the difficulty in making money without taking advantage of other people. I guess I just like a challenge.

I keep buying stuff for myself. I have already spent huge Money on things, but currently my new house is at the top of the list. Or else, why buy things if they can't fit anywhere?! Buying and filling up a house isn't happening day after another. It takes time!

Originally posted by Vertu

Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
And what are you doing with your riches? Just posting on ATS? Buying stuff to make you feel better about yourself?

I know the difficulty in making money without taking advantage of other people. I guess I just like a challenge.

I keep buying stuff for myself. I have already spent huge Money on things, but currently my new house is at the top of the list. Or else, why buy things if they can't fit anywhere?! Buying and filling up a house isn't happening day after another. It takes time!

And that's the difference. I have no inclination to buy a bunch of crap to fill up the box I live in.

I didn't mean to hijack this thread. Back to the disclosure project. Has anyone purchased and watched the video yet?

Originally posted by InfoIsPower
The witnesses, about 400, are willing, or were, to testify before congresse under oath that it was all true.
This is what makes me think.

How is it that so many people and the majority of them are grandpas, aged people, let themselves in such a "business"?
If so, this is a really huge false Project.

If I remember correctly, the 50 year "hush or die" paper these people signed is over. Maybe they were infiltrated by agents to dilute the material and make it seem like just another scam. If it's the "smoking gun" why not give the story to newspapers around the world? Why do it through the business medium? What newspaper wouldn't want to run a full disclosure by U.S. Military Personnel about UFOs? Why only advertise on Art Bell type sites? Just doesn't add up.

Originally posted by Vertu

Possibly if Money comes easy, you would have no choice. Take it, or leave it. Well, I must choose the first one. I'm rich!

Money comes easy??!!?

Where do you live then? I want to live where this is possible!! Outside of inheritance I have seen no evidence of large amounts of money coming easily. Even crime has tough challenges.

Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
[And that's the difference. I have no inclination to buy a bunch of crap to fill up the box I live in.

Many poor guys told me that they want to buy nothing, because they are living well in their wrecked home among cheap stuff, eating plain bread and drinking water (or alcohol) , they don't even go around shops because they don't want to be informed of high-end living. Well, this is a way of life, too

Originally posted by Vertu

Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
[And that's the difference. I have no inclination to buy a bunch of crap to fill up the box I live in.

Many poor guys told me that they want to buy nothing, because they are living well in their wrecked home among cheap stuff, eating plain bread and drinking water (or alcohol) , they don't even go around shops because they don't want to be informed of high-end living. Well, this is a way of life, too

And some don't want to be a slave to objects.

Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
And some don't want to be a slave to objects.

I'd rather be the slave of objects, than to be the slave of my boss. Freedom is a very prescious thing, a free person can do anything he wants. He can become rich, and if he dislikes those objects, he can trash them whenever he wants to.

I'm extremely rich!

You guys are not going to believe this but I think I know that lady toward the end that has white looking hair. She used to workout at a gym I was a member at. I swear it is her. She joined the gym looking how she looked on the video now she is very thin. She lost a lot of weight. Im sure its her. Not many woman have totally white curly hair like that so she stuck out. I remember telling myself gosh that lady is ugly with the white hair but she sure works hard and is losing weight. She worked out at a place in Ventura called "The Gym." Ventura is about 30 minutes south of Santa Barbara.

This was my first time watching this video. I have heard a lot about Greer but this was my first time seeing him in action. I dont think its a fraud. I think its true. Just think about it for a moment. Most of you guys are falling right into the "trap" that the government wants you to by thinking "o there not going to believe, so who cares." These are professional people. They are people that go to work everyday. They have history. Most of them have been in the military. They are people with things to loose and families to feed. They have a lot at stake. Some of you younger ones probably dont understand but as you get a little older you start to worry about such things.

No one can pass judgement unless they have personally looked up the records of these people.


[edit on 3-4-2005 by Event Horizon]

Well I fail to see how it's a scam
I submitted a response I got from my local senator/mp and it got put on the site.
Travelling around the world giving speeches and producing dvds and documentry does cost money, which is why people can help out.

Let's face it, if the redcross website asked for donations to keep their site up and running, would you call that a scam purely based on the fact they were asking for donations?

Well I fail to see how it's a scam
I submitted a response I got from my local senator/mp and it got put on the site.
Travelling around the world giving speeches and producing dvds and documentry does cost money, which is why people can help out.

Let's face it, if the redcross website asked for donations to keep their site up and running, would you call that a scam purely based on the fact they were asking for donations?

I Fully agree. How can anyone take these documented, well known respected people as scams. If anyone has done any kind of research about ufo's , then you know the name Dr. Stephen Greer.
Good Post for those who thirst for knowledge and truth and havent seen this vid and heard of these people.

And About the money issue. This entire adult world revolves around MONEY. Taking days/weeks at a time to read through documents takes time and what...MONEY. Flights to all these places to talk to/interview/research people and congresspersons and other international dignitary takes what....MONEY.

If You dont hold a job and pay rent and pay insurance and pay car payment and pay gas/electric or all in all contribute to the real world monetarily, then dont speak of things u know nothing about ie real world person/peoples daily living/working expenses. Those of you raised on free/pirated mp3's/movies/software(not that i havent bought the occasional $5 vhs movie copied tape back in the day hehe) havent a clue nor the life experience yet.

As Always thats just my Opinion...this time with a kick

Vertu, if you don't mind me asking, what business are you in?

Just as an opinion - what I have seen here looks genuine. Go on google and check the names. Most of them do come up. Streaming this video to people all over the world must cost a whole lot of money. Imagine that.

Next I say that when the movement started people in the governement got scared. Do not fourget this secret does provide the United states of america with a supperior advantage over any other nation in the world. It would be political suicide to relay that information to the many enemies that the U.S might have. Imagine the economy, imagine the jobs.

This does look genuine. I would say that many people out there do not want this information to go forward. So they changed the website a bit. Hacking a website has never been complicated. All you need to scrap the credibility of this movie is to put a :speak to elvis with your phone, for only 10 000$ and there it goes down the drain!

Peace to all gods creatures

Bah i laughed at the video.They said that they are not to harm us and the tech could be used for alternative fuels.If these things were possible then everyone would be happy and be joyfull.the unverse (system) dosen't work this way .They haven't read the dulce files,david icke books and most imp of all the lacerta files.Btw vertu are there larcerta types of files you know and could you u2u me about them.

OK is there anybody that can prove the actual date and/or characters of this presumed hoax. I would like to get hard evidence before dismissing information this big.

Does anybody know about the background of these people? I would like to know if there is anything we can find. If the people this movie portrays is true why not simply ask one of them to be a speaker or even then give us writen explanations on few issues:

Such as what happened with congress? Did something happen at all?
What ever happenned to all the people that were going to come forward with this information. Why is there a: join the embasador club for 1 million dollars alex ?


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Informatia I Could always use More Informatia !

Here is some information i compiled from the video and from some weblinks (provided) for those expert researchers out there to look for on all the people in it. i do not have the resources that some of the excellent researchers on this site have. So i have provided what info is readily available.
And KpxMarMoTT, some of them have been in front of congress, *see links*. This video is not a Movie as u put it, it is a press conference at the national press club.

IMO these are real people with real information.

National Press Club

Disclosure Project

Dr. Steven Greer
Dr. Steven Greer 2

John Callahan- FAA Head of Accidents and Investigations Washington DC

Lt.Col. Charles L. Brown- US Air Force Ret. European Bomber Pilot WW2/OSI World Wide Investigative UFO Incidents. Wright Patterson AFB 1947-49

Michael Smith- Sgt Us Air Force Radar Controller 1967-73 Aircraft control and Warning Operator

Enrique Kolbeck- Senior Air Traffic Controller International Airport of Mexico-Mexico City

Graham Bethune- Us Navy Cmdr Pilot Ret. 1951

Dan Willis- US Navy Top Secret Crypto lvl 14 Security Clearance. Coderoom Naval Communications Station. San Francisco, CA 1969

Don Phillips- Us Air force, Cia Contractor and Lockheed Skunkworks Design Engineer

Captain Robert Salas- USAF 1967 Maelstrom AFB. Montana

Lt.Col Dwynne Arnesson- USAF Ret. communications electronics officer top secret sci/tk/crypto clearance 1960-1986

Harland Bentley- Us Army PFC 1957-59 Nike-ajax missile base close to alny(?),MD

John Maynard- Sgt First Class Defence Intelligence Agency Ret. Top Secret tk/omni/crypto clearance 21yrs

Sgt Karl Wolf- USAF Precision Electronics Photographic Repairman Top Secret crypto clearance. Langley AFB

Donna Hare- Design Illustrator/Draftsman Nasa Filco-Ford Aerospace 1967-81 Secret Clearance

Larry Warren- USAF Security Specialist 1980. Secret Clearance RAF Bentwaters Woodbridge NATO AF Facilities Sufecky,Stanglia(?)

Maj. George A. Filer III- USAF Ret. Intelligence Officer/Flyer 5000 flying hrs ALSO Eastern Director of MUFON

Sgt.First Class Clifford Stone- US Army Secret Clearance Nuclear Authority.

Mark McCandlish- USAF 21yrs conceptual artist for multiple defense contractors. Twice held secret clearance.

Daniel Sheehan Attorney- General Counsel Disclosure project. General co-counsel NYTimes Pentagon Papers Case. Special Counsel F.Lee Bailey Watergate Burglary. General Counsel US Jesuit HQ Wash, DC. (**My Words** IMO A man of this calibur DOES NOT represent frauds and charlatans)

Dr. Carol Rosin- President of the Institute for Cooperation in Space, a former educator, space and missile defense consultant, aerospace executive for Fairchild Industries, and spokesperson for the late Dr. Wernher "father of rocketry" von Braun. She has testified before the US Congress and numerous international leaders. Dr. Rosin is regarded to be the original political architect of the move to stop the SDI (Strategic Defense Initiative) and ASATs (Anti-satellite weapons).
Dr. Rosin In Front Of Congress

That enuff informatia for ya

WHOA Now thats what Im talking about S1LV3R4D0. Thats good stuff. the only thing left to figure out is how to get one of these speakers to give us relative information to this conference and what has been happening in the past years or so.

I will start looking for Emails right now. If you get some S1LV3R4D0 then please send me an U2U and I will check on it.