I refer to that thread:
Weise story on MSNBC featuring Abovetopsecret
Great recording! Thank you very much for posting that.
I wasn't sure where to post this, so any mod, please move if unappropriate forum.
After this sad story, some questions remain now...
Should ATS members or staff feel more responsible after having read such posts, i.e. the ones showed on TV, and recorded in this video? Should the
members or the staff report such "potentially dangerous situations"? I reckon that we cannot simply call the police for everything that people say
that looks weird or too unusual, and I was not thinking explicitly about the police only, but some phrases by weise were quite explicit.
Should we, once we notice such ideas clearly expressed, try at least to investigate it, to contact the member, in a more personal manner maybe, and
try to discuss the situation with him/her? I think weise was someone in great distress. Such situations can be noticed and can be helped.
I don't feel responsible for what happened. It is not the point, and if some people here maybe feel a bit responsible because they didn't do
anything, they didn't talk with him too much or simply disregarded him as a weirdo, please don't feel responsible. I don't really think that we
could have been doing anything to prevent that massacre from happening.
On the other hand, I feel very sad for our community that such an horrible event happened. And I thought it was important to raise that point. Should
we, as a community, feel more responsible for our individuals? Should we, once we notice something that bad try to do something? I know we're no
authority, no psychiatric hospital (though I wonder sometimes
), and we're not the parents of such kids in great need for help, but maybe if we had
managed to speak more with him, understand and support him, I don't know what else, maybe
he would have given up his plan...
Also, the presence of ATS on TV, in this case, raises some questions... Maybe this will cause more monitoring of posts here on ATS, though I don't
really think that is a big problem as such. But, maybe this will attract a few more twisted minds in here, I say twisted in the meaning of sick. It
would be really sad if psychpaths of all kinds would come to ATS and advertise their madness. It would even be more worrying if anything else happened
in the kind... This, as a member of this community for a year now, would affect me. I feel good in ATS, and this would be a catastrophic thing if it
The questions are raised. Should we care more for us? Should we be more careful at people's distress? Should we feel more responsible for our members
and try to take action to solve such situations of despair or need?
I think personally that when for the next time I read something that seems that bad, I will try to contact the poster and try to involve myself in
bringing that person back into reality. I just may fail, but if I can help, I think I could then be very proud of having done something good.
Long read, I know, but I think it is important. Please share any comments or opinions on that.