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Jacques Chirac & Gerhard Schröder, Brothers in Communism!

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posted on Apr, 5 2005 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by devilwasp

Originally posted by National Security Agency
Really? Wow. You have to be joking, right? So, in your expert opinion was the USSR communist?

Hell no they werent comunist!
If the USSR was communist I would call the state of missipi pre 1950 a civil rights workers playground!


It was the world's first Communist state, with the political organization of the country defined by the only permitted political party, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

Sounds similar to previous examples, heh?

The logic you give proves you have no logical thoughts and most likely are just stating stuff that you know isn''t true just to continue argument.




posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by National Security Agency
It was the world's first Communist state, with the political organization of the country defined by the only permitted political party, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

Sounds similar to previous examples, heh?

Yes and how did the party take control?
By force AKA a dictatorship thank you and good day..
Also comunism does not state that comunism must be the only party...
What stalin and his friends done was twist it and currupt it..


The logic you give proves you have no logical thoughts and most likely are just stating stuff that you know isn''t true just to continue argument.

Who's logic?
Mine?
Yours?
The guy down the streets?
Logic is a perception....not a fact...

[edit on 26/02/2005 by devilwasp]



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 09:13 AM
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Also comunism does not state that comunism must be the only party...


The problem is that communism cannot work if there is an opposition party that doesn't follow communist principles of economics, just as in a western country a (strong) communist opposition cannot exist because of the economic and social system in place. There are many examples in history of extremist parties in opposition and things not working out very nicely (eg Spain).

No matter what way you look at it Communism cannot produce a functioning country that remains stable for very long, it doesn't make sense. People have little insentive to work if there is no possibility of improving their own circumstances, this alone dooms communism from the start.



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by cmdrpaddy
The problem is that communism cannot work if there is an opposition party that doesn't follow communist principles of economics, just as in a western country a (strong) communist opposition cannot exist because of the economic and social system in place. There are many examples in history of extremist parties in opposition and things not working out very nicely (eg Spain).

No matter what way you look at it Communism cannot produce a functioning country that remains stable for very long, it doesn't make sense. People have little insentive to work if there is no possibility of improving their own circumstances, this alone dooms communism from the start.

Not really..
Comunism makes people work for things...you want 2 loafs of bread from me , then you dig my garden
I want water off you, I trade you metal or something else..
Human nature is the problem...since humans are inherantly just bad...



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 09:31 AM
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Human nature is the problem


Thats a pretty damn big problem you've got there!

Are you suggesting that people who don't support communism are bad?



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by cmdrpaddy
Thats a pretty damn big problem you've got there!

Yeah thats why comunism doesnt work in a big society...only a small one..


Are you suggesting that people who don't support communism are bad?

Oh far from it...haveing multiple political parties can be just as good as the bad it does..
I mean the right wing is absolutely perfect for wartime.....the left wing is more for peace..



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 02:21 PM
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Devilwasp, are you God because you seem to know everything about everything? Just wondering........




Know it all...


[edit on 6-4-2005 by National Security Agency]



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
Comunism makes people work for things...you want 2 loafs of bread from me , then you dig my garden
I want water off you, I trade you metal or something else..



Its a huge barter system!


Barter is a simple form of trade where goods or services are exchanged for a certain amount of other goods or services, i.e. there is no money involved in the transaction. Barter trade was common in societies where no monetary system existed or in economies suffering from a very unstable currency (as when hyperinflation hits) or a lack of currency.


Oh wait, let me guess, I'm wrong, devilwasp?





By the way, water is free.

[edit on 6-4-2005 by National Security Agency]



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by National Security Agency
Devilwasp, are you God because you seem to know everything about everything? Just wondering........


No because I havent figured out if he or she exists or not....
I know a little of most things...but dont know a lot about everything





Its a huge barter system!


Barter is a simple form of trade where goods or services are exchanged for a certain amount of other goods or services, i.e. there is no money involved in the transaction. Barter trade was common in societies where no monetary system existed or in economies suffering from a very unstable currency (as when hyperinflation hits) or a lack of currency.

Your absolutely right, thats the jist of comunism; money is the route of evil


Oh wait, let me guess, I'm wrong, devilwasp?

Far from it..



By the way, water is free.
[edit on 6-4-2005 by National Security Agency]

Depends in what ammounts and where you live...also the bottles of water you get out of the super market arent exsactly "free" are they?

[edit on 26/02/2005 by devilwasp]



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by devilwasp

Depends in what ammounts and where you live...also the bottles of water you get out of the super market arent exsactly "free" are they?


If you walk to a lake and drink the water thus it is free, or am I wrong again?


Or do you want to include the supplies it takes to walk there such as footwear, etcetera?
Its so much fun to argue with you.

[edit on 6-4-2005 by National Security Agency]



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by National Security Agency
If you walk to a lake and drink the water thus it is free, or am I wrong again?

Dare I mention desert?
Sure you can make your own with survival techniques but for large ammounts then you need to trade.



Or do you want to include the supplies it takes to walk there such as footwear, etcetera?
Its so much fun to argue with you.
[edit on 6-4-2005 by National Security Agency]

If you want to include that then that will require more tradeing.
Not really argueing....especially since one side isnt trying..



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 09:11 PM
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Ah. devilwasp. Your the most hilarious person i've met here at ATS. I've enjoyed your.....perspective. I hope you don't believe in the things you say. Sincerely, NSA



posted on Apr, 7 2005 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by National Security Agency
Ah. devilwasp. Your the most hilarious person i've met here at ATS. I've enjoyed your.....perspective. I hope you don't believe in the things you say. Sincerely, NSA

Thanks....I hope you do take heed of what I say....I dont really see why your makeing a fuss about all this.....I thought the red scare ended in December of 1991....did I miss another bombing of the supreme justices house?



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
Thanks....I hope you do take heed of what I say....I dont really see why your makeing a fuss about all this.....I thought the red scare ended in December of 1991....did I miss another bombing of the supreme justices house?


Well, in your version of history it didn't end or begin. You said the USSR was not a communist/marxist/lenin, so in your version the Red Scare would've never been anything other than the media and history writing that the Red Scare was real.
In what context are you referring to Supreme Justice's houses? I have no idea what thats about.



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by National Security Agency
Well, in your version of history it didn't end or begin. You said the USSR was not a communist/marxist/lenin, so in your version the Red Scare would've never been anything other than the media and history writing that the Red Scare was real.

The "red scare" was what they called the fear of the eastern or "left" people.
Like russians after 1917.
I dont judge if its true or not.


In what context are you referring to Supreme Justice's houses? I have no idea what thats about.

Sorry not supreme court justice...
An anarchist bombed the home of the attorney general Mitchell Palmer was what sparked off the "red scare"..



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