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"And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." [Rev
The 7th head (John Paul) fell on Saturday night after a short period of 2 popes. The next "pope" is to be the 666 beast, possibly Satan pretending
to be Jesus Christ.
The only criteria to fulfil the following theory, is that the next, whatever person, introduces a new name that has never been used before in the
I dont know where you got the idea taht JP2 is the seveth king
More than any other passage in the book of Revelation, the interpretation of the seven horns as seven kings has fostered the notion that John saw the
beast as a kind of reincarnation of the emperor Nero, whose brief but gruesome persecution of Christians in the year 64 was vivid in Christian memory.
The passage has also figured prominently in efforts to date the book. Identifying the sixth king who now is (v. 10) would supply an approximate date
of composition for the book of Revelation. Unfortunately that identification is not possible. No one knows with what emperor the series of seven
begins, nor how to count the three emperors (Galba, Otho, Vitellius) who all reigned in 68-69.
It is true that from the late first century on the popular Nero Redivivus superstition held that Nero would return after his death to take power
again. In identifying one of the beast's heads as an eighth king who nevertheless belongs to the seven (v. 11), the angel probably alludes to that
superstition, not to endorse it as true, but to make the point that the only figure from remembered history to whom the beast might be compared in its
cruelty to the people of God was the ill-fated Nero. The point is not that the eighth king is actually Nero Redivivus, but that he is like Nero in his
character and destiny.
The possible allusion to Nero has cast a shadow on many commentators' interpretation of chapter 13, whether in the reference to one of the beast's
heads that "seemed to have had a fatal wound, but its fatal wound had been healed" (13:3) or in the much discussed number "666" (13:18). Yet it is
important to keep in mind that the angel is explaining 17:1-6, not chapter 13. Despite the fact that the two visions have one major character in
common, the beast, they should not be confused. It cannot be assumed that the Nero Redivivus legend is the key to the interpretation of the beast's
wounded head in chapter 13. Remember, the beast is introduced in chapter 17 as if for the first time. Its previous escapades in chapters 11 and 13
seem to have been forgotten. At most, it is possible that the mysterious 666 at the end of chapter 13 was intended in some way to anticipate the more
complex (and more political) application of the figure given here by the angel, but for the most part the vision of the present chapter is new, and it
must stand on its own.
Two important conclusions can be drawn from the angel's words. The first is that the antichrist is in a general sense the seven-headed beast, and yet
at the same time the eighth head or eighth king in particular, who somehow belongs to the seven (v. 11). In other words, the antichrist in Revelation
is both an institution and a person, an empire and an emperor. The second conclusion is that the Roman emperor reigning at the time John wrote the
book is not this antichrist. Although the presupposition of the entire book is that "the time is near" (1:3; 22:10), it is not actually present.
According to the scenario of verses 10 and 11, the sixth emperor is and the seventh is yet to come. When he comes, he will remain for a little while.
Only then will the dreaded eighth emperor, perhaps modeled after Nero, appear on the scene. The angel makes it clear that the vision concerns the
future, not the present and not even an immediate future. Although John may have remembered the three emperors within a single year (the year 68-69),
the likelihood is that the angel was pointing to an interval of as much as a decade or more before the final conflict and the destruction of the