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reply posted on 2-4-2005 @ 03:41 AM by The Astral City
Drogo, Gaia theorists would have some rather choice words for you. There is some really great philosophical debate going on now as to weather the earth herself can be thought of as a superorganism the way that a colony of ants or a human city may be. You'd do well to look it up.

As for the population control factor, I don't believe it's impossible; it'd be an interesting argument for intelligent design if it did turn out to be genetic but without basis on evolution. Other species also show relatively high per-capita instances of same-sex attraction, most studied has been penguins. Here in Milwaukee we have the rare treat of several captive bonobo apes and modern science has determined these apes (which are possibly our closest cousins) are inherently bisexual. This is most surely genetic, as they have evolved to use sex as a problem solving and stress relief method. Somewhere along the line there must have been something that caused a genetic reasoning for homosexuality. Here's the theory that my friend, a genetics major, came up with when I showed her the thread here:

Somewhere along the genetic line, an ancestry species was genetically programmed for sex to provide more than just a way to reproduce (possible like the aforementioned bonobo apes or dolphins) this species then suffered an event that caused an imbalance in population ratios between males and females. As such bisexual behavior would become preferable as it could provide both the ability to receive the positive benefit of sex as well as the ability to still have the desire to reproduce. The genes for sexual desire would not be singular but instead a group, if they were turned a certain way, the resulting offspring would be heterosexual, turned another combination to bisexual and another to homosexual. This could also explain how a great deal of bisexual people expresses a desire for one particular sex while still enjoying relations with both.

This is just a theory off the top of her head and is only one possible explanation for why homosexuality could be driven through genetics. Although she is unaware of any current scientific evidence to support any theory in this case.

Blessed Be
~Astral


reply posted on 11-4-2005 @ 04:29 PM by new_falcon_XXI
Yeah, thanks because there have been some quite intelligent remarks here (I was looking into some other topics before)

Thanks Burgess, it's been the first flash in my neurons: Though I'm still searching, I do believe if there's a god he is universal, means he is at the same time not only earth but the universe. So, drogo, please don't be offended, but if we say "god created" it's just because most people understand it better. Best way is to say "god is".

Back to the topic: I had the same thoughts some years ago, because here in Europe started a "gay revolution" too, somehow. Suddenly there were gays everywhere and I was thinking "ok, now earth tries to slow us down with her own instruments: influencing evolution". I still think it's a selection of some kind, but maybe in a different way - because gays cannot be immortal like "normal people" - getting kids and so on - they often try to get immortality through extraordinary efforts. It may be the arts, even politics, but because of the different thinking they're creating something special, something never seen, heard or thought before. That's why I now think the evolutionary power is quite a different one: evolution chooses gays to improve society (not everytime, not in every way, I don't want to generalize). Now, that society is more tolerant today is an improvement, isn't it? And throughout history you can find extraordinary people who were gay or would have been, if circumstances had been different. Mostly very creative ones.

And another one: there are a lot of people who think the next step of evolution will be a technological one - means there will be no reason for biological reproduction anymore. Maybe this is the first step? Ask anybody: Passion (founded on man-woman relationships) is the worst thing ever, it kills people, it makes men complete idiots, it destroys whole biographies and starts wars (to put it in simple words: it drains the blood out of your brain into regions "down under"). Hollywood is built on it! That means without passion we could think more clear about what should go on tomorrow (not my way of life, that's for sure, and I think homosexuals are sometimes even more drained out, but have more possibilities to get satisfied and can start thinking clearly earlier). But maybe this is the supposed next evolutionary step: get free of our emotions! Who knows?
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