"You, or maybe someone else, stated that Einstien's IQ level was 161...Well, if this is true, it would have been 161 back then, but converted to today's standards, it would be between 280 and 300."

148 in 3rd grade...

I don't really count myself as being better, or thinking I'm better than anyone else. An IQ is just your ability to learn. We just recognize patterns faster, accosiate and group things differently and have a deeper understanding of the universe's mathematical language.

I tend to think of myself as a Boddhisattva. You know, an older spirit here to help the newer/younger spirits. I don't think that has anything to with with an IQ though. But that's how I think.

Like with everyone else it seems, I'm a bit nervous in small places w/ large groups of people, and I often find myslef in a lonely despair. It's not very fun to talk to people when 99% can't comprehend what you're trying to say to them. Perhaps that's what causes our slight depression at times, loneliness. But all is good. I've found my life-companion and I'm much happier nowadays.

Originally posted by FallenOne
It's not very fun to talk to people when 99% can't comprehend what you're trying to say to them.

And the ones that do understand don't need your help. Makes the whole thing rather pointless. So I guess we are just here to watch everyone kill each other. Oooh, what fun.

Originally posted by FallenOne
148 in 3rd grade...

Imagine what that must be now, accounting for inflation!

Imagine what that must be now, accounting for inflation!

Hehe. If only our IQs went up 7% a year like Americas economical inflation.

So, Einstien's would be up to 300 by todays standards? How did the standards change? Is it based on the average score being floated at 100 with the growing concious of the masses becoming smarter in recent evolution (even though it seems the opposite )? I've never really learned why it's easier to get a higher score now than then. oh well.

First let me say, LoD, that I am happy to see you are still active and around. I was worried about you for a while, but it seems like you've coped nicely...

Onwards with the subject matter... How do people with 140-200 IQ think?

I won't bore people with my IQ. Truthfully, it falls well into the range given, but honestly I could make up any number and post it to claim I was a genius, and still be, myself, a complete idiot.

So on a brief tangent, let me applaud your choice of words in the title. Just because someone has 140+ IQ does not make them a genius, it means that they were particularly good at tying point A to point B.

I myself do not consider myself a genius, though I consider the men I am descended from to be such. Those mad scientists are more accomplished that I could ever hope to be, and have seen more in their lives than I likely ever will. They were veritable gods in the world of mental skills. I, on the other hand, am just some guy who reads and writes too much.

However, since the title specifically relates to score, and not genius, it means I get to answer. Yay!

How do I think? It depends on the situation.

If I'm trying to make a decision on what I will do, or how I feel about something, I weigh it first against personal experience, and then against my logical, ethical, moral, and spiritual belief systems (in that order).

If I'm trying to decide if one side of an argument is correct, then I go strictly by the amount of evidence available.

If I'm in a dangerous situation, I think first of preserving the safety of those I care for most, and then myself, and then I lead as many of the sheep as I can to safer pastures. If it's just me, I learn as much as I can about the situation with what little time is available before taking action.

If I'm in an immediate crisis, such as work suddenly becoming nightmarishly swamped, or a car wreck, I take about five seconds to breathe, then ten seconds to assign a mental list of priorities before taking action. Short of a life-threatening situation, there's always fifteen seconds to spare, and hasty decisions lead to disasters.

If I'm in an argument, I first try to consider their side as closely as possible, to determine if it makes sense. If it doesn't, then I shower with facts and/or personal experience to support my side. Then I appeal with logic. If logic fails, I attempt a passionate stance. If facts, experience, logic, and passion all fail, I give the whole thing another go inside my head, and try to determine if there's any way I could be wrong, and that they may be right. If I determine they are still wrong, and everything has failed, I generally write the whole incident off as a waste of my time.

I am Lazy. Very Lazy. I have used the meager mental skills given to me by genetics and god to find the path of least resistance through life. It's worked out pretty well for me. Perhaps the only reason I am as fiscally sound as I am today is that I'm so lazy I didn't want to work for the rest of my life, so I started making my money work for me instead. I still work, but it is with the knowledge that soon I will not need to, and I can live off the fruits of my labor in peace, quiet, and above-all, idleness.

Originally posted by FallenOne

Imagine what that must be now, accounting for inflation!

Hehe. If only our IQs went up 7% a year like Americas economical inflation.

So, Einstien's would be up to 300 by todays standards? How did the standards change? Is it based on the average score being floated at 100 with the growing concious of the masses becoming smarter in recent evolution (even though it seems the opposite )? I've never really learned why it's easier to get a higher score now than then. oh well.

Well IQ is judged relative to a 'norm', isn't it? Of course grades and SAT's are falling. I blame the internet.

We use metaphor and conceptual linkage to derive deeper meaning.

my IQ is 113 and I pretty much blend in

hey... why don't we all take the same IQ test(s) and then crown our very own smarty pants!!

I've tested anywhere form 130 to 150!!
Taken 5 tests till now.. only online though..
So what do yall say??

I've never taken an IQ test but I'm almost positive I'd score some-what low. I'd say my mind's processor speed is not quite up to par. I think I suffer from some form of mental block which allows me to only process and learn information relevant to myself.

I think Subscorpion's post explains (word for word) my past better then I ever could -

I didn’t do very well in school...I was a C student. I just don’t think I was pushed enough, and became lazy and didn’t care, I felt there was a higher knowledge to be taught, and what they were teaching was basic knowledge.

This is exactly the way I feel. My mind just cannot (in a sense) work for information which I care nothing about. I usually excel in English, Computer Science and various Art related subjects while my downfall is Mathematics. I wouldn't say I have ADHD but rather a free thinking mind completely against forced education. For example, yesterday I sat 5-7 hours drawing an extremely detailed electric guitar in macromedia flash. Do you know why? Because I don't haha. Another example, I read the John Titor story a few years ago and then I drove to Border's to buy a few crash course Physics and Time related books. WHY? I DONT KNOW! But I have a 100% attention span for random things like that. However, when it comes to school work, I am assigned an essay and I usually procrastinate up until the night before. I write school essay's as if they are the most difficult thing I have ever been faced with and I strive for perfection in every sentence. Did I mention I am a perfectionist lol? Anyway, to sum it up, I just cannot focus unless I am faced with a problem or question (regarding life) and need to immediately solve it.

Anyone have a diagnosis other then "you're crazy"?

Originally posted by Icarus Rising
We use metaphor and conceptual linkage to derive deeper meaning.

No no that's paranoia. And back to inflation, you can't tell me that IQ isn't subject to it. You can't say that 100 in 1970 is the same as 100 today. I remember the 70's, and we were idiots!

naw man.. School doesn't give a gauge of ones IQ.. Infact school tests ca nbe very misleading.. take one wen you're in coll or something.. thats a better measure..

Official IQ : 135
Age : 23
Sex : Male
Personallity traits :
- highly extraverted
- very openminded
- extremely rational
- very passionate
Special skills :
- maths
- computer programming
- logics
Interests :
- politics
- arts
- science
Language skills :
- Dutch : mother tongue
- French : average
- English : excellent
- German : basics
- Latin : only reading
Social skills : great in front of a crowd, but only average in private. It took quite a lot of experience to train my social skills in private.
Ideology : post-modern national socialism.
Religion : common divider of several pre-Christian religions (Wotanism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, Shamanism, Druidism, ...)


I've always been considered weird by other people. I prefer to use the term 'excentric', though

I think for the most part, people with higher IQs just think faster. They process ideas faster. Creativity is really the defining key in being able to use that. I've known some brilliant uncreative people. They're focused on the line, where the line goes, where point a is, where point b is. They can process very quickly, but are stuck on that line. The intelligent imaginative person looks for the intersections of that line that are not visible, what lies beyond the line, and what lies to the side of the line (the analogy does make sense from a scientific perspective, but others it falls appart, so keep that in mind ).

It's using that creativity in combination with the fast mental processing that has created some of our greatest world-movers and shakers. Most people sitting under a tree when an apple falls think, hey look, food. Newton thought, hey look, three laws of motion. Of course it wasn't that simple; he probably began the same way. "Hey, look, an apple just fell I could eat. You know, apples always fall around this time of year. They fall. Curious. I wonder why I can say that with such certainty? I would never expect an apple to fall up without me applying force to it, and even then it's still going to be coming down because the force the earth exerts is constant and will eventually overpower the force I applied in throwing it up." And it goes on from there.

That's the difference between brilliant people and geniuses: creativity.

EDIT:If someone's already pointed this out, sorry for reiterating it. I've just avoided this thread because the subject led me to believe this would turn into a bunch of folks just talking about how smart they are. After doing research into Einstein for the debate, though, I figured I'd come and share something that he talked about a lot.

If I may give a piece of advise to the people listing their IQs: don't, unless you're lying. When you do that, people put you in a niche. They judge the content of your words based on what they remember of that number. It's natural human behavior, and we're all guilty of it. I'll give more wieght to someone's words who I know is smart, even if they're spouting off complete drivel, than I will someone of an average IQ making the most brilliant statement ever. Don't share the number; have people judge you on your content, on your words, not on a very subjective number some doctor or website gave you.

[edit on 7-15-2005 by junglejake]

Originally posted by junglejake
I think for the most part, people with higher IQs just think faster.

Some think faster than most people. Other just think more logically, and therefor see things other people don't see.

Disputes on the validity of the IQ test abound. Unfortunately it is likely that folks with high scores that create such tests. That I suppose taints the results.
Mine as tested in high school was 141. My life's achievements do not bear out such grade.
I've a brother in law who is a member of the Mensa Society, whose membership I hope they find an embarrassment as he is a total idiot.

As to how I think........ well I'm told I have a warped sense of humor, I listen avidly to both Sinatra and the Stones. I'm also a rabid cinema buff, conservative republican, and look forward to the day that Sharon Stone acknowledges her secret yearning for me.
I also have a screensaver of "Smiling Bob" from the Enzyte commercials. I find it comforting.

Originally posted by periwinkle blue
I also have a screensaver of "Smiling Bob" from the Enzyte commercials. I find it comforting.

Oh my gosh, that guy's expression terrifies me! How could you look at it every time you come back to your computer? Aiee!

Originally posted by periwinkle blue
Disputes on the validity of the IQ test abound. Unfortunately it is likely that folks with high scores that create such tests. That I suppose taints the results.

Riiiiight, because it would make more sense to have people with low IQs write the tests? That way, everyone could be a genius, and no one's feelings would be hurt.

Something I left out in my previous post on this thread: I hate the idea of forced mediocrity in society. Whenever a school decides to join the bandwagon of not keeping score in sports, or not awarding grades, or removing any and all sense of real competition, it makes me sick. It's like hobbling a child (breaking their legs at the ankles) so that you can nurture them easier. It's sick.

Society needs Winners AND Losers. Both are inspirations in and of themselves. You can cheer on a winner, or strive to be one. You can console a loser, or learn from their mistakes. But what can you do with someone who's just average? Nothing!

Society needs Competition in order to better itself. Not everyone wants to be the best, but everyone wants to think they could be.

Sorry...er...anyone want some soap? I'm done with this box.