How do some people score 200 or 195 on IQ tests?
& what test might they be taking? How accurate are those results?

Has anyone else scored on an offical iq test a score of 145 and above? Such as in the 150 - 190 range?

What do you think defines genus?

Originally posted by LiquidationOfDiscrepancy
What do you think defines genus?

Hard work.

The only thing that being smart is good for, is either for lying, or for knowing you are being lied to.

Being told I was smart when I was a child (and as often, told to be quiet!) it made me question whether I could live up to grown-ups calling me smart. Wasn't I BOUND to disappoint them?

Of course, it took many years from this child-like thinking to the realization of what little importance absolute truth (or knowledge, smarts, brains, IQ) is, that you tell people what they want to hear, when they want to hear it.

This is especially true in school, where your Philosophy teacher certainly does NOT want to hear YOUR philosophy!

If you are comfortable recognizing the lies around you, the message is to learn to lie for yourself. Of course, the New Age spiritual way to do this is:

Creating your own reality.

This means you can believe 95% of CNN, enjoy 95% of Hollywood, talk politics like you believe it (because no one wants to talk to someone without hope , AND in the end of the day, rip all that sh*t to shreds.
shreds

My IQ lies somewhere in that range. I don't have a degree in physics, nor was I ever the top in my class except for in the subjects I truly enjoyed. People confuse me and I don't talk to them. I find myself constantly asking questions...

Originally posted by LiquidationOfDiscrepancy
Has anyone else scored on an offical iq test a score of 145 and above? Such as in the 150 - 190 range?

I scored 168 on my last IQ test which was quite a few years ago.
I am 21 now.

I know I am different from other people, sometimes when I make jokes other people just don't understand it or don't understand why it is funny when it's a little too far-fetched.
It's funny to see everyone laugh when I make such jokes in an environment of other people who also have high IQ's.

And basicly I just think too much and too fast.
I shouldn't think about everything like I do, but it's not like I can make myself stop thinking.

There's pros and cons to everything.

A high IQ score doesn't necesserily show a person is intelligent. An IQ test merely analyses the ability of a persons mind to carry out cetain tasks. I scored 138 when I was tested, and this was mainly because I scored well on the Mathematical and Logic questions.

A computer can perform these functions a million times quicker and more accurately than I can, yet you wouldn't call a computer intelligent. To me IQ scores are just another form of competitiveness which we dont need.

IMO intelligence is subjective and cannot be measured accurately using tests and scores. There's plently of people with high IQ scores who I wouldn't necessarily consider intelligent, and vice versa.

I have scored very well in every IQ test i have scored, about 155-180.

I cant stand school, mabye its because all but a few teachers that i have had were terrible, in class when a teacher is explaing things i feel as when they are explaining it, i have a better Grasp of what they are trying to get across.

(ie) Last week in Bio class my teacher was "trying" to "teach" evolution, and was doing an aboulsutly terrible job, she mauled the entire chapter and i had to leave class it was so bad, then i toutored people on it this week, and made complete morons learn it.

In high school, well i got A's and B's and C's.

I was homework impared, but always exeled in tests, i had 4/5 of the top people in my AP Econ/BIo/Gov classes and i beat their scores on the tests. But not doing projects and homework killed my grade, i was barly in the top 50% of my graduating class.

So i say IQ is a good barometer of intellegence, but work ethic is what determines how far you go.

I never took an IQ test. Back in first grade I took a placement test. Scored 12th grade level on reading and 9th grade level on math. So basically, the rest of school was boring beyond belief.

How do I think?

I think in 4 dimensions. 3 dimensions plus time. I think most people think linear. As in one thought follows another.

I divide thoughts into separate groups or units. Then I build each thought to it's maximum capacity. Then these max thought units integrate together into super units.

Lines of thought connect different crystalized thought matrixes. A lattice is formed. The lines of thought fill in the space between thought units.

I also think based on possibility and probability. The thought structure is fluid and in layers. At the center are the things that I can see and have verified personally. This center is more solid than the surrounding thoughts but is still malleable if new thoughts need to be integrated. The layers beyond the center are experience from others, ideas, experimental thoughts, theories and such.

No thoughts or theories are discarded no matter how low the probability of the concept being correct. This ensures no limits are placed on the infinite mind. Even fictional books are valid for consumption and storage.

I also think about new ways to think. And new ways to integrate thoughts. I change perceptions frequently and add new perceptions constantly from my interactions with humans and the rest of existence that I have contact with. I can take on other's thought processes. I keep the original process but also change and mold the process too. This adds a multitude of new connections with just one contact. I take the processes, thought forms and such and mix and match them with others. I see how they fit in real-life in real-time. I experiment with all the thoughts and perceptions.

An example of a perception used is seeing in the mind's eye the molecules and atoms of all objects. And the forces that act upon them. I sometimes add math into the view. If you ever seen "A beautiful mind" that is kinda what it's like.

Another perception I use is to slow all physical movement to 50%. This allows for non-thought concentration on the most miniscule of levels. An example would be feeling the force of gravity in every action taken. From taking off a sock to driving a car.

I also think in pictures. This is especially useful for things like general relativity. See the solar system, it's planets, the magnetic fields, the gravitation fields, the helio fields.

I also think without labels. This allows for perception of the essense of things without interference from preconceived concepts. See a tree without labelling it "tree". With the label comes all the thoughts previously thought about tree. This waterfall of thoughts masks the essense. I remove the waterfall to see things as they are.

The list goes on and on. But these are part of the basis for my thought processes.


EDIT: Also, belief and disbelief have no place in my thought processes. Everything has probability. Probabilities fluctuate based on real-life:real-time experimentation.

I also change levels of thought based on interaction with others. I can identify where they are at and speak to them at that level. This has allowed me to get along with most everyone.

[edit on 4-28-2005 by ShadowHasNoSource]

'No thoughts or theories are discarded no matter how low the probability of the concept being correct. This ensures no limits are placed on the infinite mind.'
shadowhasnosource I like that kind of thinking, and it is the reason that certain puzzles are more readily solved by kids than adults. I know how bored I was in school, and I didn't rate a Gr. 12 competency till Gr. 6. Man was I bored.

At that age, around 11/12, I was rated 148 IQ. I was an emotional idiot.
Good at problem solving though, like those orangutans and bonobos are. I was at least as good as them.
I hope I am stupider now.
I know that my heart and soul have grown beyond my hopes.
I believe in magic, and that is my reason for quoting you. I do not ever discount..........if it is wrong, I find out soon enought anyway. There is no need to discount something prematurely.

I was tested many many many many many many times throughout my childhood. My IQ was in the range you given, though low. The tests that I took had variables of +/- 10.

I was a child prodigy on the piano, had a college reading level in grade school, the communist-esque Gifted and Talented Class, etc....

But with the IQ tests came the personality tests. Hospital stays. Medication. I could not handle my thoughts or my emotions. Realistic goals were unachievable for me. Though I was accepted and attended several top-twenty Universities, my studies would conclude with a nervous breakdown.

How does this person with such-and-such IQ think?
I couldn't. I still can't.

I have moments of clarity. My proof is in some of my posts. There are days when I can write a semi-research paper. Do a calculus problem in my head out of boredom. Devise a way to increase productivity in a certain area at work by 25%.

Then go to my blog. There are days when I do not know where I am or what day it is.

Genius borders with insanity, in my book. Pun intended. I am getting worse, but at least my current obsession is writing my thoughts. I do this before they disappear.

Dot.

Belief is maybe not the exact right word, probability does sound closer to the way I see it too. It is like I lean towards the one option, or tend to agree that it is more likely, but there is hardly a 'fact' in this life that I will say is irrefutable. Facts are for more decisive folk. I find them exceedingly rare. It is, imho, and many others, and also as you seem to feel, perception. That is my picture of relativity. From the seat next to me on the plane, the reality, the perspective, the view, the time and place of the passengers experience, are not the same as mine, and to me, they can be a world apart. In a crash, that becomes obvious, but even an uneventful flight is no different to me. We are all living alone, in our seperate realities, and that conclusion is my current view.

BlackGuardXIII,

I was emotionally cracked out as a kid too. It had a lot to do with dealing with the psychosis of my one parent and going to church. School, church and home were all prisons that I could not escape. The only escape was mental.

That first grade placement test was taken in a private christian school. The next year I had to go to public school due to finances. I pretty much became the class clown just to keep my sanity. I never did homework or really paid attention but always passed the tests.

In that first year of public school I decided that I just wanted to be average. I didn't want to stand out. So that's what I did.

I know I'm dumber now thanks to drugs and alcohol. They became the purposeful handicap placed on myself. And gosh darn it to heck, I'm happier for it.

Earlier on in school I realized the futility of the systems I was forced to be in. This also helped my decision to not give a f**k. I was going to school to go to college to get a job to be a slave for 40 years to retire as an old fuddy duddy so I could enjoy the excitement of shuffle board. F**K THAT S**T!

But my decision to go in a different direction from the masses has been met with extreme prejudice. Always and constantly being hindered by humans. So I studied them. Figured out the psychology. Then just circumvented whenever possible. If circumvention wasn't possible I would just act dumb and go with the flow until I could jump out.

Intelligence can be a curse, no doubt. But intelligence can also be the path to bliss. I thought that if ignorance is bliss I was going to go in the opposite direction until I found intelligence blissful. After nearly 3 decades on this rock I'm getting close to that point. The one issue that has held it back for that long is that I'm extremely lazy. The laziness is due in part to the excruciating boredom that permeates existence on earth (due to all the BS rules made for the lowest common denominator).

But I digress.

I was tested by doctors ~14 years ago. I was measured at 145. I have a vivid imagination. I never did well in school, just never seemed to have any interest. Though I do enjoy (and consider myself quite good) at strategic planning, puzzles (not 350 piece puzzles, I'm talking about mind puzzles), chess and so forth. Sometimes I do have trouble concentrating if it is something which I do not enjoy and sometimes have a hard time understanding where some people 'come from'. BTW 145 IQ is only consider high-above average.

How do people with IQs of 140 - 200 think?

Hmmmm, I bet they put their chin on a clenched fist and look really serious at the same time. Thinking really really hard about how to do even better on their next IQ test.

Originally posted by DenyAllKnowledge
How do people with IQs of 140 - 200 think?

I wouldn't know, I'd have to loose too many points to get that low.

I was waiting for that kind of comment, hehe....

How do people with IQs of 140 - 200 think?

They think about things others don't, so they have to find online communities like this to converse about the topics that interest them, which are over most people's heads.

Originally posted by Gazrok
I was waiting for that kind of comment, hehe....

They think about things others don't, so they have to find online communities like this to converse about the topics that interest them, which are over most people's heads.

I figure that just about everyone who sees this thread is going to post how they think. I'm waiting for "when I go to the bathroom" or "I hold my breath, exhale, and concentrate on what I am thinking about" or "I think when I use my brain."

Everyone who reads this thread will explain their geniusosity and give eye cue scores. It is true. 140 is high-average.

Dot.