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How do people with IQs of 140 - 200 think?

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posted on Oct, 20 2005 @ 06:56 AM
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IQ Tests.

If you take them on a somewhat regular basis, you can end up "learning" them and that defeats the purpose.

Okay, did that even make sense?

I think mine is 125ish and I have a friend that is about 130ish. I believe that qualifies as being gifted.

Nobody understands how I think. Afew decades ago (that dates me), a shrink determined that I dont process information the same as a normal person.

I did terrible in school and even so, I felt school was boring at best and I was mostly unchallanged.

Today, i am in the process of starting my own corporation. I am putting every penny I have in it and soon I will either be broke for a very long time or making alot of money within afew months. I think its worth the risk.

So even though Im not in the range of a genius, thats my two cents.




posted on Oct, 20 2005 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by Genfinity
If you take them on a somewhat regular basis, you can end up "learning" them and that defeats the purpose.

Okay, did that even make sense?


It Sure did, That's what is known as being "Test Aware" I knew teachers that would seed the test answers into their kids (Over dinner and other family activities - over the years) to insure that their kids had some kind of edge. Information can be learned and memorised, There is however a part that the mind must be trained to do, That is/was repeting strings of numbers forward and backwards. from 4 to I think it was 12 digits.

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I think mine is 125ish and I have a friend that is about 130ish. I believe that qualifies as being gifted.


Yes - it does, most Doctors are in that range.

Genius is often knowing exactly what to do/what needs to be done, and retaining the mental clarity to do it when it is needed. (Like the pilot who landed that Jet with the stuck landing gear) What good it all the knowlege in the world if it evades you when you need it?

BTW -
Good luck on the Business venture, though remember it is a LOT of Hard work. Plan out everything, and include contingency plans (Plan-B) for everything. Including if things go bad. It is easy to plan for sucess, but also have one in case things don't work out. - I've refered to it as "Bus Fare Home" when it's time to close up and work for someone else. It is the one tangent that most people don't consider until it's too late. I've been self employed for most of my adult life, of cource there have been failures, headaches, and problems, Times I had to pick up work delivering Pizza, Changing Oil, and working in Floridas prison system, etc. I don't figure I'd change any of it. We don't learn from our sucesses, we learn from our failures. People like to do business with Sucessful people, so look the part, dress the part, act the part, and never do cut rate work. Being a sucess is being on the track you want to be on.

I'm sure you know all that stuff, but it dosn't hurt to hear it again.



posted on Oct, 27 2005 @ 05:16 PM
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I've never taken a real IQ test, and I do not consider an online IQ test to be valid.

As for my opinion on what qualifies someone to be a genius, its completely a matter of opinion. In biology, there is not a single absolute, thus the idea of defining a line of higher perception is fairly pointless. And it also matters in what manner, and what subject, you have higher perception, and also if it can be conveyed in a meaningful manner and even if people see you as sane or not.


I've never met a "genius" and thus I wouldn't have anything to base my opinion on. Genius is too broad a term. However, if it simply means having ideas that are unusual, revolutionary, or totally bizzare, I think everyone qualifies in that manner. It just depends whose idea is considered unusual enough, but not too unusual, AKA Chance.



posted on Oct, 27 2005 @ 05:22 PM
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Asking someone how they think and getting a definitive answer is impossible. The person has nothing to compair or quantify it with, because they have always thought that way. The terms to put it into words probably don't exist and if they do it would be intellegable to everyone except for that person.



posted on Oct, 28 2005 @ 12:23 AM
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Ive wrote about 4 iq tests and 3(i think it was 3, all but one for sure) of them were all mid 130s, one was 141. To be honest i think iq tests are a complete joke though, anyone that thinks they are smarter than you cause they got a bigger number is a fool. Some of the smartest people i know couldnt do #e on a iq test But are far more inteligent than myself. I have a friend that has a photographic memory too and im sure he would do very well on a iq test as well but hes not the brightest either. Hes not stupid or anything at all, im pretty sure would do better than me even with out his uber memory. I just think the tests are a joke, people that swear by them or brag about them shouldnt really.



posted on Nov, 9 2005 @ 08:36 PM
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I dont know my iq
There are times when i process information at very fast speeds, and sometimes so fast that i fear it. I like it when my mind is presented with powerful ideas, especially in mathematics and number theory. I like to solve hard math problems, and i compare this to an octupus finding a way out of a small space or out of a jar. As the octupus "solved" the jar, i solved the problem.
I didnt really understand the interesting aspect of mathematics until i was in probably seventh grade. A little story: I got in trouble, and my teacher made me do more homework in math. Now the extra homework was on equations that we havent learned yet. Like solving 3x+5=x+9. Now i understand what the symbols meant, what x represented. And the solutions to "x" in each equation came to me, one problem after the other, i found excitement in solving each one intuitively. Its hard to describe the reasoning, but i compared the weights of the numbers in front of the "x's" and the weights of the numbers on each side of the equation.
It is hard to explain such thinking, intuition. Its like looking at everything as a whole at a very high level, without being aware of it really. There were other instances when this has come to me, in calculus and in derivatives.
Now when a math or logic problem is presented to me, then i turn myself in high-gear and i try to solve it. This can be dangerous though, because at times im worried about getting myself to think in this high- gear rather than actually focusing in on the problem.
In my example of solving the equation x+9=3x+5, there is sort of feeling of convergence to the answer that fits x in that condition. Now, many people would estimate, but this may be because their mind didnt on that particular problem go as far as the people who get "x" exactly.


Olo

posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 05:50 PM
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I think it might be helpful if people posted *where*, and when they completed their IQ tests. Everyone is a genius in online grading, and I suspect that atleast some of the higher scores on here may be the result of that...

EDIT: OK, *some* of the online ones are not so generous...

[edit on 10-11-2005 by Olo]



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Olo
I think it might be helpful if people posted *where*, and when they completed their IQ tests. Everyone is a genius in online tests, and I suspect that atleast some of the higher scores on here may be the result of that...


That is a false statement, NOT everyone scores 140 plus on online test.
Some iq test are pretty accurate, so keep that in mind.


Olo

posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 06:18 PM
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I was exaggerating slighty...I guess I should say "most online tests are far too generous in their scoring, and produce innaccurate results".

[edit on 10-11-2005 by Olo]



posted on Nov, 10 2005 @ 06:46 PM
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I agree with you, some online iq tested are flawed and inaccurate, I am more concern with how intellectuals, feel, think, and see the world they live in.



posted on Nov, 15 2005 @ 06:00 PM
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I think your answer is in the responces you have gotten;

Frustrated (often times to the extent of deprssion) because they have a difficult time talking to most people without the sensation that their brain is shrinking. - The higher the IQ the fewer the number of people you can talk to without dumbing things down - the more frustrated one becomes.
(That's probably at the root of elitist clubs like MENZA - a club people join so they can converse with people who can understand what they say, and mean - people who can get their heads around an idea or concept)

As isolated as possible (see above for reason)

Generaly interested in how things work, tendancy toward mathmatics, Physics (weather actual, or theortical)

Desire to learn more about any topic that sparks some interest.

Often times a more than passing interest in puzzels

Curriously they are currious about IQ's (Tests, and related discussions) - perhaps it has been noted elsewhere that those in the low end of the IQ spectrem have little or no interest in the topic. Also there is ammusingly complete agreement that IQ tests are bogus, inaccurate and good for little more than entertainment.

It is my oppinion that a great deal of the thought process has a rudementary basis in mechanics - the understanding of the way things work. grouping like/kind together, and spotting patterns in things Eg. mathmatical patterns. The rest is simply a matter of how fast one recognises the patterns. (Or Solving the problem, look at problems as puzzels they all have a solution, the accptability of the solution is another matter)

You may enjoy this, It isn't true all the time, but it is rather currious
9 times any number = a product, if you add the digets of the product they will equal 9 . Ex. 9x9=81 8+1=9



posted on Nov, 15 2005 @ 08:54 PM
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I'm only 136, but I dont belive IQ has as much bearing on how one feels socially , emotionally, or otherwise as much as your experiences and the personality you develope as you grow. Your experiences can either open you up emotionally or close you off, we are adaptive beings and if we get hurt emotionally many times or even once in some, we tend to close off. Socialization is the process that brings us into society, brings us an understanding of how to communicate and work with others. The only way I could see IQ being involved is if were exceedingly low, to the point of mental disability, as that development is stunted.

[edit on 11/15/2005 by ludaChris]



posted on Nov, 16 2005 @ 09:18 AM
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To have an above average IQ places greater expectations on life, however both sides of the spectrum get enhanced. I do not wish to elaborate very much on this matter but two quotes sum it up.

Ignorance is Bliss

The more intelligent you are, the more unhappy you are



posted on Nov, 16 2005 @ 10:44 PM
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It seems to be true that ignorance is bliss, as the people I know on the lower end of the scale are happier (Overall) they wander around without the expectations we impose upon ourselves.

Though It's difficult to quantify happiness...

I find a lot of happiness just watching people as they walk on the beach, or watching a sunset.

Interesting though - these don't require "Interaction" or "Socialisation" with others that are not necessarally unhappy encounters as they are nerve racking and frustrating.

It is impossible for a group of 6 or more people to reach an inteligent decision, as they will revert to the lowest IQ in the room. The more people in the room the lower the IQ will become. (The basis of MOB mentality)



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 12:32 AM
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Um well My Iq isn't that high its 132, but i havent been tested since back in middle school... but I do know that people say that genuis is a matter of perspective I really don't want to elaborate also I am not good at spelling but since I was good at catching details in reading ( and reading altogether) and grammar they put me in the gifted language arts class. You know there is a group (I forget what they were called cause I learned of them in Middle School) that has only people starting with a certain IQ in it ( I think the required was 140 or 135 or somewhere around there). I remeber them since they had a very interesting idea that when someone went up to speak, that once they finished speaking everyone could only clap once and it was it pretty good unison.. so I hope that didn't go off the subject too much.



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 10:27 AM
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I guess I fall into the range of 140 - 200.. although after I got the results of the I.Q. test I took (which was for a school that I was working for in early 02') I didn't tell anyone my score.. I have a huge fear of being judged, so I usually tend to keep anything I think will cause bitterness in other people to myself. I don't have a huge special job, I work in I/T for a healthcare company, and I really don't think there will be any major contribution of my intelligence to impact life as we know it. So, no, I don't consider myself a "genius".

Emotionally - As I have noticed with alot of people that have posted with high I.Q.'s I tend to get depressed. Often times over nothing at all. I over analyze things until I thnk im going to lose my mind.

I do have the "my voice in my head" that I use all the time. I just say in my head what im thinking.. to be sure that when I say it aloud it doesn't sound ridiculous.


I have notice that my memory with geography is alot better than most people I know.. I guess thats why I was really good at delivering pizza when I was 16/17.

This site has brought a plethora of knowledge to be studied for myself and, im sure, many others. I have been doing my own personal research on Hyperspace and Metaphysics.. but thats just what interests me.

Its also nice for me to be able to let everything out and not have to worry about someone thinking im being arrogant or full of myself. Yes I have had people all my life telling me that im smart. No, I have really not applied myself, especially in high school. That may be why im working on peoples computer issues right now, instead of finding out how to produce an anti-gravity particle.

I hope that I have provided a little insight to this thread.. I don't many philosophical views that I call my own. But I know that if I find myself in a position to where I am "stuck".. I just ask myself, "what can you do?" if the answer is nothing, then I move on.. it should be as simple as that for everyone. Don't beat a dead horse.



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 10:27 AM
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I almost made a mistake that was not "genius like" at all.. double post. That is what we like to call impatience.. click the button one time, then wait.

[edit on 17-11-2005 by Elzzie]



posted on Nov, 17 2005 @ 07:17 PM
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Like me, I guess, My IQ's in the 140's or at least it was in middle school. There is no difference really I just overanylse, read way too much, and always need some outlet to express in, otherwise pretty normal. BSB fanfic site and all see.

What can I say, I love AJ, and I think UNESCO needs to lower it's standards so ppl who read well can also learn to do math better, plus they should add philosphy to it so it's easier for ppl like me to understand.



posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 12:18 AM
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as far as depression is concerned...

it makes total sense

the more complicated the system, the greater chance of failure



posted on Nov, 19 2005 @ 12:28 AM
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In short, I feel like I can take on the WORLD!

I have UNLIMITED POWER at my fingertips... "What should I do today?" I ask myself. "Overthrow a foreign government?"

I squint in consideration, to the sound of Cheerios crunching.

"Oh, look! A puppy!" I think as I glance out the window. "What was I saying?"

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