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Originally posted by Nygdan
Where can I find some resources online about irregular freemasonry? I am familiar with the spaniard who claims to be a master mason and to have started an illuminati rite "above and beyond" masonry, and that he isn't part of 'regular' anglo-american (danish too no?) masonry, but rather a less standardized continental masonry. Problem with looking up anything about masonry is conspiracy sites and sites of dubious reputations. For example, I had thought that the illuminati never existed, because the only time I had ever heard of them was in a paranoid NWO type rant, and the only websources I had come across were allways deep conspiracy sites, never information about the actual Bavarian Illuminati and Weishaupt.
So are the mason's and masonic researchers here familiar with any sites about irregular masonry? Do they have 'stand alone' lodges perhaps that don't 'extend' beyond their own walls , or do they have 'regional' lodge networks or any such things?
Originally posted by Nygdan
Where can I find some resources online about irregular freemasonry? I am familiar with the spaniard who claims to be a master mason and to have started an illuminati rite "above and beyond" masonry, and that he isn't part of 'regular' anglo-american (danish too no?) masonry, but rather a less standardized continental masonry. Problem with looking up anything about masonry is conspiracy sites and sites of dubious reputations. For example, I had thought that the illuminati never existed, because the only time I had ever heard of them was in a paranoid NWO type rant, and the only websources I had come across were allways deep conspiracy sites, never information about the actual Bavarian Illuminati and Weishaupt.
So are the mason's and masonic researchers here familiar with any sites about irregular masonry? Do they have 'stand alone' lodges perhaps that don't 'extend' beyond their own walls , or do they have 'regional' lodge networks or any such things?
Originally posted by Souljah
I suggest you start at
Illuminati Conspiracy Archive
and
freemasonary.watch
Cheers!
Originally posted by Souljah
I suggest you start at
Originally posted by Souljah
I suggest you start at
Illuminati Conspiracy Archive
and
freemasonary.watch
Cheers!
Originally posted by akilles
Its kind of hard to believe that you figured right off the bat that people that are trying to inform have an ulterior motive. Unless you are just that kind of suspicious, and I will keep that in mind.
Originally posted by akilles
Can I ask you something?
Do you have to ask 1 to be an Irregular Freemason?
So then, how can I meet one if you come across them irregularly?
And furthermore, would they tell me they were irregular, or how would I express my interest to them?
It is like advertising that you aren't "Accepted". Didn't Sebatwerk say, and I remember this distinctly, "All groups recognize one another, and the membership overlaps."
Originally posted by MrNECROS
This is a strange link I found on FW of some guy who is trying to list all the Grand Lodges in the US and the rest of the world.
Not a lot of info but at least it's a starting point.
As you can see from the list there are at least as 5 times as many irregular Grand Lodges as there are regular lodges in the USA.
bessel.org...
[edit on 3-4-2005 by MrNECROS]
Originally posted by MrNECROS
Hey do you hear an echo in here?
I just saw my previous post repeated twice.
Wow and the same link as well!
Originally posted by akilles
"obscuring and distracting."
Isn't that what you are doing Nygdan?
By bringing up irregular Masonry and then saying what are the informative sites, you were really saying:
Name some sites, and let me de-base them into worthlessness.
Why is it that only reading about the Illuminati on the Internet made you believe they didn't exist?
Why didn't you just do another internet search?
Its kind of hard to believe that you figured right off the bat that people that are trying to inform have an ulterior motive.
Unless you are just that kind of suspicious, and I will keep that in mind.
Originally posted by Nygdan
The conspiracy information was so out of whack with reality that if acted as disinformation about their actual,previous existence.
VERY similiarly, the conspiracy wackiness that is the majority of stuff you hear about things like the NWO distracts from any realistic concerns about globalism, centralization, and the like.
Its like how the 'lunatic fringe' of the democratic party makes centrist, even left leaning, democrats look like insane 'liberal dictators' to the right, and how the right can easily be villified by merely calling anyone in it a 'nazi' or fascist.
I do not accept what I read as being tru merely because I have read it, correct. And I also place the 'burden of proof' on the 'non-consensus' theory, usually. This is logical, and beyond that its also necessary, since there are inumerable 'non-consensus' theories out there.