Thanks for the extra sites everyone who suggested some.
Originally posted by akilles
"obscuring and distracting."
Isn't that what you are doing Nygdan?
Actually akilles I am honestly
interested in this stuff and am not trying to distract anyone.
By bringing up irregular Masonry and then saying what are the informative sites, you were really saying:
This is interesting, because I know what I am saying, I know what my intentions are, and I know that you are generally wrong in this post because I am
not some sort of disinformation agent. Obviously you don't know that, and neither does anyone else. But its interseting, because I can see, for a
fact, that you are being paranoid, because I know that I haven't even 'erroneously' done anything to indicate that I am a disinformation agent.
That 'persepctive' is entirely your own, and is entirely uncessary.
Are all boers this suspicious?
Name some sites, and let me de-base them into worthlessness.
No. I stated that I wanted decent sites about it. If anyone
is asking for 'decent' information about freemasonry, they almost certainly are
not talking about stuff like freemasonry watch. I am not saying this because they present mason's in a bad light. What I am saying is, why would I
qualify the sort of information? Would I not just ask 'whats some info on masonry' if I hadn't had any
info about masonry in general? If I
'bought into' the 'masons are an insidious conspiracy' type stuff, I'd probably not qualify what type of stuff i am looking for or
about stuff that reveals the 'lies and deception' of irregular masonry, no? If I was, on the other hand, a masonic disinformation agent or I was
running some sort of false flag operation, why would I've said "Problem with looking up anything about masonry is conspiracy sites and sites of
dubious reputations. "? I'd've started off pretending to be all innocent like and what not no?
Why is it that you have worked me into the 'masonic conspiracy' here, in your reckoning? Can not a person simply be interested in the subject, and
not 'go for' the sort of 'high cabal' type stuff that comes out of freemasonrywatch?
Why is it that only reading about the Illuminati on the Internet made you believe they didn't exist?
Here's the deal on that, because its a good question.
I learned about the 'actual' bavarian illuminati on ATS infact. Prior to that, I had only
ever heard about these mysterious evil illuminati
who are trying to destroy all religion and trying to overthrow the proper government and rule the world for their own dark desires. And that they
were associated with the shape-shifting reptilians, or a satanic overlord, or aliens from a different and inherently evil dimension, and all the like.
Now, at some point, one's 'baloney detector' goes off. Since I had only
ever heard the ludicrous and extreme per-versions of the
illuminati, I figured that they had been made up entirely, like the New World Order, and never actually existed as an actual self-identifying group,
as opposed to say the Trilaterals or Bilderbergers.
The conspiracy information
was so out of whack with reality that if acted as disinformation
about their actual,previous existence.
similiarly, the conspiracy wackiness that is the majority of stuff you hear about things like the NWO distracts
from any realistic
concerns about globalism, centralization, and the like.
Its like how the 'lunatic fringe' of the democratic party makes centrist, even left leaning, democrats look like insane 'liberal dictators' to the
right, and how the right can easily be villified by merely calling anyone in it a 'nazi' or fascist.
Why didn't you just do another internet search?
I would, and most of the info I'd find was 'omg the illuminati are evil reptoids from dimension nine and they want to gnaw on your skull and burn
bibles'. Only two 'groups' have any real interest in the illuminati, conspiracy theorists and masons. I'd normally not be particularly
interested in what the masons had to say about anything tho, no more that I'd normalyl be interetsed in the minutes of a local Rotary meeting.
Its kind of hard to believe that you figured right off the bat that people that are trying to inform have an ulterior motive.
Well, it is what happened. The exteme form of the 'anti-illuminati' hysteria
was 'off putting', to say the least.
Unless you are just that kind of suspicious, and I will keep that in mind.
I do not accept what I read as being tru merely because I have read it, correct. And I also place the 'burden of proof' on the 'non-consensus'
theory, usually. This is logical, and beyond that its also necessary, since there are inumerable 'non-consensus' theories out there.