ok now to part 2
i will say before i jump in; that Rant's comments about St Augustine were fully correct
Rant knows his philosophy history quite well
ok now; back to what i was doing hehe
Further development of Western science had to wait until the Renaissance, when men began to free themselves from the influence of Aristotle and the
Church and showed a new interest in Nature. In the late 15th century, the study of nature was approached, for the first time, in a truely scientific
spirit and experiments were undertaken to test speculative ideas. As this development was paralleled by a growing interst in mathematics; it finally
led to the formulation of proper scientific theorys, based on expierment and expressed in mathematical language. Galileo was the first to combine
empirical knowledge with mathematics and is therefore seen as the father of modern science.
The birth of modern science was preceded and accompanied by a development of philosophical thought which led to an extreme formulation of the
spirit/matter dualism. This formulation appeared in the 17th century in the philosophys of Rene Descartes , who based his view of nature on a
fundamental division into two separate and independant realms. That of Mind (res cogitans), and that of matter (res extensa)
The 'Cartesian' division allowed scientists to treat matter as dead and completely separate from themselves, and to see the material world as a
multitude of different objects assembled into a huge machine. Such a mechanistic world view was held by Isacc Newton who constructed his mechanics on
its basis and made it the foundation of Classical Physics. From the second half of the 17th century, to the end of the 19th century, the mechanistic
Newtonian model of the universe dominated scientific thought. It was paralleled by the image of a monarchial God who ruled the world from above and
imposed his divine will upon it. The fundamental laws of nature searched for by the scientists were thus seen as Laws of God, invariable and eternal;
to which the world was subjected.
The philosophy of Descartes was not only important for the development of classical physics, but it also had a tremendous influence on the Western way
of thinking up to the present day. Descartes' famous sentance 'Cogito ergo sum' - 'I think, therefore i am' , has led Westerners to equate their
identity with their mind, instead of with their whole organism. As a consequence of the Cartesian Division, most individuals are aware of themselves
as isolated egos existing 'inside' their bodies. The mind has been separated from body and givin the futile tast of controlling it; thus causing an
apparent conflict between concious will and the involuntary instincts.
This inner fragmentation mirrors our view of the world 'outside', which is seen as a multitude of different objects and events. The natural
enviornment is treated as if it consisted of separate parts to be exploited by different interest groups. The fragmented view is further extended to
society which is split into different nations, races, religious and political groups. The belief that all these fragments - in ourselves , in our
enviornment , and in our society - are really separate and can be seen as the essential reason for the present series of social ecological and
cultural crises. It has alienated us from nature and our fellow human beings. It has brought a grossly unjust distribution of resources creating
economic and political disorder, an ever rising wave of violence, both spontanious and institutionalized, and an ugly polluted enviornment in which
life has often become physically and mentally unhealthy.
The Cartesian Division and the mechanistic world view have thus been benificial and detrimental at the same time. They were Extremely successful in
the development of classical physics and technology, but had many adverse consequences for our civilization. It is fascinating to see 20th century
science, which originated in the Cartesian split and in the mechanistic world view, which indeed only became possible because of such a view; now
overcomes this fragmentation and leads back to the idea of unity expressed in early Greek and Eastern philosophys.
In the early Greek and Eastern world views; the entire cosmos is seen as one inseprable reality - forever in motion, alive, organic; spiritual and
material at the same time!
This interestingly enough; is the Exact world view arising from Modern Physics today.
Thus Eastern thought can provide a consistent and relevent philisophical background to the theories of contemporary science; a conception of the world
in which scientific discoveries can be in perfect harmony with spiritual aims and religious beliefs. The two basic themes of this conception are the
Unity and Interrelation of all phenomena and the intrinsically dynamic nature of the universe.
This Unity of all things; has been called the Tao by many Eastern philosophers.
Here is a quote to describe how they thought about this.
"There the eye goes not,
Speech goes not,
Nor the Mind.
We know not, we understand not,
How one would teach it"
"What is soundless , touchless, formless, imperishable,
likewise tasteless , constant , odorless,
without begining , without end, higher than the great, stable-
by discerning That, one is liberated from the mouth of death"
or even like Lao Tzu said
"The Tao that can be expressed is NOT the eternal Tao"
as Chuang Tzu said
"If it could be talked about, everyone would have told their brother."
ill end part 2 here
and i may bring a part 3
in case no one caught where i was going with this
but im quite sure most of you already are aware of this knowledge, but if you are not; feel free to look deeper into on your own theres literally
millions of books that delve into these subjects
if you feel ive left any blanks; go ahead fill them in
if you feel ive made any major mistakes ; go ahead correct me
learning is a never ending process
and all of us are infinitely capable of that
philosophy is the basis of all schools of thought; as hopefully you will see in this explanation into the reasons why there is 2 forms of thought
today; the dynamic (changing) and the static(unchanging)
and also hopefully show that modern science has for the most part , proven that the Dynamic view of the universe is more accurate than the static
and every other development in physics since
hopefully you may be interested in taking a philosophy class now?
as you can see it does not "disprove" God, it only describes "God" with more accurate detail than typical one sided religious theologys may
If you believe in God , Philosophy is FOR YOU.
thank you for your time