i just caught on ctv news net that stevan harper is trying to inishiate a vote on wether or not to scrap the kyoto acord. it was equated to the gun registry program, that went way over projected finantual cost. it also had little if no effect on gun crimes.

this is a step forward in canadian politics. the canadian public was not consulted when the accord was signed. while we should cut down on pollutants and better our wildlife protection, we should not be held to an arbatrary contract, that states what goals we MUST achive.

i aplaud the initutive to call a vote. hopefuly the government does the right thing and gets rid of it. i personaly have always found it much easyer to work towards a soulution without a preverbial gun to my head.

It's not a vote on Kyoto per se, the Liberals tried to embed it into a bill in which the Conservatives didn't like and the NDP didn't like each for completely different reasons. Not sure what the Conservatives beef was but the NDP wanted a bill into itself, not an afterthought addition...We signed onto Kyoto we should abide by it. The majority of Canadians still support it btw. 60+ %.

As for the gun control comment since it was signed the number of crimes with guns involed has dropped by half over 9000 incidents in 1992 to around 4000 in 2004, I'll try to find the link saw it on a documentary last night on CBC newsworld about Crime in Canada. But that is a whole nuther thread.

Another thing Harper is trying to save face since he has made himself look like a fool, by supporting the Liberal Budget and by appeasing the moderates in his party(instead of marginalizing them, he doesn't want the Right Wing alliance to break up....yet again) he is in a very tricky situation and he could be forced to do some things he may not otherwise do

[edit on 31-3-2005 by sardion2000]

like i said i caught it on ctv news net. i havent seen a shot on the news yet so you may be right. too bad realy we should just scrap it compleatly. why should we pay out money if we can't meet it, if we don't we don't. i am not saying we should not cut back polutants but it should be on our own not because some compleate morons signed some assinine treaty.

the one site showed a wonderfull picture of the lakeshore coal power generation plant. personaly i think it should be shut down. i see on the way home from work everyday in the summer the polution it causes. that nasty yellowish haze over toronto comes from it. if you drive down the 410 just follw the haze it goes right down the two stacks every time. the problem is we have nothing to replace it. we are constantly being told we have to cut down power usage as it is so we realy can not loose that source. we need to either come up with a new method of power generation or build a new nuke plant. hydro should not even be considdered, as it destroys good land. but untill we have something we can't shut it down.

i can't say i am over fond of nuke reactors either but it is the best we have at the moment even though it causes heat polution in the lake amognst other things. instead of giveing out money to other countries because of some insane treaty that never should have been signed in the first place. i would think a far superior idea would be to spend money on reserching a better, cleaner way to produce electricity. then putting it to use. we could also put money into reserching better carberators and fuel injectors as well as engine performance and exhaust systoms. why should we throw good money away in such a useless gesture as called for by the treaty?

even if the government was to fine companies as to how well they cut down polutants that would be useless. all companies would do is raise their prices to recover it, that solves nothing. besides global warming is just another myth to scare the public. just like the hole in the ozone layer was. mabe instad of funding bogus reserch like that we could better spend the money on real reserch into real ways to cut down polution and the replanting of areas destroyed by logging.

[edit on 31-3-2005 by drogo]