Not the NWO the forth reich

the NWO to me is non exitante. the thing that i see is that the similaries of current american ways are very compariable to that of Hitlers Nazis. if anyone has anycomments please fell free.




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the Bush admin can be compared to the Fourth Reich easily.

thats what i am saying. its just that ppl allways talk about this NWo crap and i relly dont belive it. and dont take this post the wrong way i am not nazi or anything.

this has been covered.
I made a thread about this last year

NWO and Fourth Reich = Same thing.
It's like 2+2=4. It's not-complex.

Originally posted by Odium
NWO and Fourth Reich = Same thing.
It's like 2+2=4. It's not-complex.

agreed.
just note, this topic has been covered alot, try searching around ATS for them

ok well i just thought i would ad my two cents with out haveing to do that. and ppl need to see the compersion.

I speak for Americans every were when I say, this thread is arrogant, misleading, offending and total BS.

Please close it.

Deny Ignorance, if this isn't ignorance I don't know what is.

u know the only thing that is arrogant, misleading, offending and total BS. is the fact that more ppl dont see what is taking place in our government today. i am oldy 18 and i can allready tell that there are big changes sence bush jr. took office. so to u iksmodnad i say shove it. (no offince)

For some reason every one is on this F*ck America band wagon, I'm sick of it people accuse the government of lieing with more lies. So tell me who is the one lieing here?

I am 18 too, I live in America I can tell you first hand comparing us to Nazi's is so far beyond logic its sickning. I am offended by this thread even reading this crap.

So will you guys do me a favor and stop stereotyping Americans.


[edit on 31-3-2005 by iksmodnad]

ok ur 18 just like me huh well first off u look and see what was one of the main topics we talked about in school. it wasnt the subjuects it was the tests. hitler did the same thing in his schools. secondly look at how our president talks. its allways about the greater good. wasnt hitlers death camps about the greater good for germany or no the aryans. not theres a lot more i could say but these are just a few.

Originally posted by blevins
ok ur 18 just like me huh well first off u look and see what was one of the main topics we talked about in school. it wasnt the subjuects it was the tests. hitler did the same thing in his schools. secondly look at how our president talks. its allways about the greater good. wasnt hitlers death camps about the greater good for germany or no the aryans. not theres a lot more i could say but these are just a few.

My main topics in school:
1st period, tech systems, I am currently working on a several web pages in that class one is about a racing team and the other about and after school technology club. There are no test in that class

2nd period: graphics, I make T-shirts, mugs, mouse pads, business cars that say what ever I want them to. No test in this class either

3d period, English class were reading the Salem which trials which has been in the English 12 curriculum for almost 10 years.
There was one test on the crucible it was about characters in the book and stuff.

4th period, astronomy- Learn about the stars and consolations.
test: the astronomer test, we named the ancient astronomers, the planet test we named the planets and there characteristics.

last semester, I had history class .... "American history" not once did we talk about patriotism or "oh were the best country in the world" we learned about FDR and world war 2 the great depression stuff like that.

Oh one time we had a debate when the presidential elections were one, the class was evenly split between a candidate we went back and forth debating it was endless.

How does my day at school reflect or compare to something Hitler would do?



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i never asked u what classes u are taking or took. i am just making a comparsion. i go to a school where our teachers are very open minded. my us histroy teacher allways has something to say somethime u agree with him and sometimes i dont. i am not saying that we are becomeing less american. i am saying that our goverment is becoming lwss american. thats no reason to get all defencive.. its is very natural for a goverment to do this it has allways happen in history. we will get over it. and iksmodnad u should get over what has been said here too

A reich is a german 'reign', like the reign of a king or leader. There can't be a '4th reich' in america, its like saying america is a Polish Monarchy.

The NWO, from what i understand, was originalyl portrayed as a global socialist utopia. The nazis themselves were concerned with teh monied powers and the posibility of the illuminati, jews, and the nwo.

Any totalitarian global government can be thought of a the NWO tho.

Germany can have a fourth reich and not have taken over the world or have any plans to.

we can all believe or think anything
theres infinite thoughts to have
and infinite ways to perceive each and every thought

so basically we will never know the truth
only our perceptions around it
which can be flawed or accurate to an extent

but no statement about a thing can be fully factual because
there is literally Infinite ways to think about things
so during our short lived lifetime; its impossible to have a fully accurate perception of anything; because our time is limited; its impossible to think an infinite amount of thoughts...

with that said

things do seem like the NWO and ANY fascist dictatorship bare striking similaritys
number one being "a few elite control the entire populace and lie to us and make us hate others so they may take complete control of everything"

we all know *or should know* that the word "Politician" equates to "Dirtbag liar" or "Lawyer"
notice how almost all senators and represenatives are LAWYERS?

they are Dirtbag liars

and Lying is not Democratic governace
its Fascist

they think they are so smart; that they can lie to us; and make important decisions on the Most important issues WITHOUT our consent; our opinions; or even a SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS or any other type of analysis for that matter

from what i can tell; they make their decisions in secret based on "HOW TO MAKE THE MOST $$$ , and how to Gain the MOST CONTROL"

their actions in public testify to that

but then agian
read my initial paragraph

theres no way we can know for sure
but speculation sure is FUN

plus even so called "evidence " isnt fully concrete most of the time
it can be manufactured or doctored or even just error -prone...

Uh oh, watch out iksmodnad, looks like they're trying to train you to kill anyone different than you! Good post, I agree with your sentiment. I too am sick of the anti-americanism in education. I find it odd that education has it in for those of us who realize we in the US are a beacon, not a shadow.

I'd like to see some actual examples of how the one poster sees US school curriculae as parelled to Nazi Germany. Looking back over my school days I can't see anything resembling it - I had a university professor who was upset that the American flag was hanging in one lecture hall. You can't even really tie economics into it either (the standard Republicans are rich so they don't care about the average Joe) - At my highschool one look at the parking lot said a lot - the teachers' lot had the crappy old cars where the standard 16th birthday present was at least a 3-series beemer for the kids, yet they were enormously brainwashed towards supporting the Democratic ticket and ideas of wealth redistribution.

Also, heh, watching the Crucible in class in undoubtably going to lead to a conversation including the name "Joe McCarthy." (the reason they showed you that film is probably to draw the parallels) blevins, if by Nazism you mean "national socialism" sure, I'd call the US socialist unfortunately, but if you're referring to the brutality and inhumanity of the Nazi regime, please cite some specific examples from your school "topics." I really have no idea why being a liberal and hating the United States became so popular, where's the Gipper when you need him?!

Hmm, I was always under the impression that the 'Fourth Reich' was a reference to the European Union. Interesting.





seekerof

Originally posted by Odium
NWO and Fourth Reich = Same thing.
It's like 2+2=4. It's not-complex.

Fourth Reich is not the same as the NWO. There rumors that they are working against the NWO's plan and have their own agenda. I dont think it will be created by americans.

my 2cents!

Originally posted by Nygdan
america is a Polish Monarchy.

In the end isn't that the real truth?

Originally posted by iksmodnad
I speak for Americans every were when I say, this thread is arrogant, misleading, offending and total BS.

Please close it.

Deny Ignorance, if this isn't ignorance I don't know what is.

I wondering if you could try an experiment. Try to draw pictures or stick figures commiting some type of violent crime, while in school and start showing to everyone. Do you think you be ignore or do you think you will arrested or something similar?

Are u still free in America to do so?