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The four-year, $24 million study -- the largest-ever to show how people are changing their environment -- found that humans had depleted 60 percent of the world's grasslands, forests, farmlands, rivers and lakes.
Originally posted by they see ALL
does anyone think that we (the human race as a whole) will be able to change their ways and help the earth in a positive way???
humans had depleted 60 percent of the world's grasslands, forests, farmlands, rivers and lakes.
The study was compiled by 1,360 scientists from 95 nations who pored over 16,000 satellite photos from the U.S. National Aeronautics and Space Administration, and analyzed reams of statistics and scientific journals.
Originally posted by Phugedaboudet
when the study chooses to use terms like "depleted" as opposed to "utilized", then it's being spun for someone's agenda.
Humanity is affecting the planet, just as a cloud passing in front of the sun affects the temperature. Whether the changes are positive or negative, depends on your perspective.
If you're anti-human, anything that puts a single squirrel out of his tree is bad. If you're pro-exploitiation, anything that prevents a dollar from being made is bad. I guess it depends on who funds, and writes, the reports.
But, honestly. give me half that $12 million, and I'll tell you that increasing human population will change the face of the planet. I can even predict that there will be a point when available, usable resources will not meed the demand needed for survival.
It's numbers, and mouths to feed. An issue that only the most unfair and biased person can blame on the US, Europe, or Japan. We're not even close to being the source of massive overpopulation. In fact, most industrialiuzed nations are seeing *decreases* in their populations, only offset by immigration (legal and not).
Originally posted by drogo
i see this as yet another piece of the propaganda that is trying to point to the belief that the world is overpopulated and a reduction is in order. i wish i could recall the sites i have been to that point to this plot there are quite a few of them out there. alas my strong point is in recalling ideas not precise spots where the info is kept.
there is also those who try to point out that earth is liveing thing as opposed to a thing that supports life upon it. to them mother earth is not just a saying but litteral truth.to these people the earth can only support a certain amount of human life upon it (if i can remember correctly that number is suppost to be 4 billion humans). also that we are already over that number. they will point to studdies such as this as well as the claim that the severer weather systoms we are haveing are caused not just by our missmanagement but because there is an overpopulation of the earth. that this is "mother earth" just trying to remove the overpopulation by force, since we will not do it by ourselves
certainly we need to try to cause less harm to the enviroment. come up with technology that creates less polution. but watch out for claims that we need to reduce our populatin to be able to survive. try to read between the lines in studdies. reading between the lines on this one i can see the unspoken pointing to an over population issue.
Originally posted by drogo
i don't disagree that we have been very bad to the enviroment and need to improve.
i can't answer for a lot of the world but i do know that all i have to do is drive for a few hours and i can get lost in the huge wilderness. sure we have logging that ignores the rules about selective cutting and replanting. but the government needs to enforce the laws. not the lunitic fringe that spike trees to try to kill loggers that are only trying to do honest work. unfortunatly it is the fault of these types of people that force the protection of workers instead of enforceing enviromental standards.also theses same people destroy any effort to try to deal with things though legal aproaches. because of the nuts the the whole effort is rendered useless. i was once trying to help a spacific area but the nuts destroyed any hope of working with the authoritys to change things. because of things like spiked trees it blew the creadibility of those trying to right the problem within the law. if the nutters had stayed home we might have had a good effect. because attempted murder automaticaly becomes far more important than the wilds, thus changeing what the authorities had to prioritize on.
Originally posted by jacquescas
If you look at the bigger picture of the world, all the damage we do will only kill off ourselves and many large animals, but to say all life on earth will die out, unless there is a major nuclear disaster or other unforseen human made cataclsym, we have a better chance of taking ourselves and most of the life on the planet with us.
But at some level life will survive, evolve. It took only 65 million years to go from dinosaurs to us.(indirectly)
Even if only the smallest algae and cockroach survive, given enough time evolution will right the balance. We just wont be around to see it.
[edit on 30-3-2005 by jacquescas]
Originally posted by Umbrax
We have a choice. Everyday we all have to make a choice.
People are just not getting it. We must Stop acting like nothing is going on and take responsibility
This is the only way we can keep the world population at this level and still not drain it.