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posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by Daedalus3


I don't thin kyou understand..
I AM Indian!!

And my "axis of evil" is my utopian alliance to counter the west..


when america thought indian could become his ally,a indian say"(i am dian't intentionally aim at indian,just because a indian Daedalus3 in this topic say that)my "axis of evil" is my utopian alliance to counter the west.. "
i thought many indian have the same opinion,that's be derived from indian's culture,if you pay some attention on india,you'll find india is greey in other country's territory,and india neve treat these country which infirmness than her egality.i am so amazing by that,i think if india become strong,she must became a second Soviet Union.but in american's eyes india is a democracy country.i have to say judge a country whether you ally is not by the county whether a democracy country.be a chinese i thought why our must counter west?that's funny!




posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by rapier28
peacwold, it's not right to group all people in a particular way. Most Indians i know are very nice.

If you wanted to speak to Americans then just say that you want to speak to Americans.

Oh yeah, also put some empty lines "\n" between your paragraphs, makes them easier to read.

Finally, it's nice to hear from someone in Beijing.

P.S I'am an Australian with a Chinese background.

[edit on 30-3-2005 by rapier28]


I'll notice these what you say.please excuse my words about indian.
i was just can't contro myself well when i say what they say in many other
topics.i agree with you that "it's not right to group all people in a particular",but i insist my opinion about indian,at least in forum.



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 06:54 AM
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What's with keeping the indians out??
Someone is being racist. That's the kind of comments where China and USA will never become strong mutual allies.

Lets look at it here
In China you have chineese people.
In USA you have a multicultured base.

China wouldn't have much of a say, since they can't even contain their own population, and now your begging for an alliance. lol China's population density has exceeded its optimal value and will be plunging into poverty anytime soon now, were it not for the slave labor jobs in place their by American companies they would already be there now. A lot of american companies were downsized to move to china, which is not a good election base to be standing on should the candidate agree to free trade with china.

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Originally posted by peacworld

when america thought indian could become his ally,a indian say"(i am dian't intentionally aim at indian,just because a indian Daedalus3 in this topic say that)my "axis of evil" is my utopian alliance to counter the west.. "
i thought many indian have the same opinion,that's be derived from indian's culture,if you pay some attention on india,you'll find india is greey in other country's territory,and india neve treat these country which infirmness than her egality.i am so amazing by that,i think if india become strong,she must became a second Soviet Union.but in american's eyes india is a democracy country.i have to say judge a country whether you ally is not by the county whether a democracy country.be a chinese i thought why our must counter west?that's funny!


you sound just like kahn and ming here from King of the Hill, LOL
den then den then den den den dren den dreeen


Say it " You indians are a bunch of hillbillies and rednecks"

[edit on 3-30-2005 by websurfer]



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by websurfer
Lets look at it here
In China you have chineese people.
In USA you have a multicultured base.

China wouldn't have much of a say, since they can't even contain their own population, and now your begging for an alliance. lol China's population density has exceeded its optimal value and will be plunging into poverty anytime soon now, were it not for the slave labor jobs in place their by American companies they would already be there now. A lot of american companies were downsized to move to china, which is not a good election base to be standing on should the candidate agree to free trade with china.


Actually, in China, there is 50+ different ethnic minorities with the Han majority constituting about 90% of the population.

Also, China is THE leading country in the world when it comes to combating poverty and a lot of grass-roots average Americans would not be able to afford alot of products if it wasn't "made in China".



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 07:07 AM
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websurfer
i have said the reason why keep the indian out.it's not for racist.



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by peacworld
websurfer
i have said the reason why keep the indian out.it's not for racist.


peacworld, you should ask a mod to close this thread and start a new thread without the "indians out" part because conversation in this thread is going to be dominated by your "indians" comment.



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 07:24 AM
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i consciousness these.it is not my origional purpose,i am so sorry about it.
and now i hope everyone ignore that i have said about indian,please expression you idea about china & usa.



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by websurfer
What's with keeping the indians out??
Someone is being racist. That's the kind of comments where China and USA will never become strong mutual allies.

Lets look at it here
In China you have chineese people.
In USA you have a multicultured base.

China wouldn't have much of a say, since they can't even contain their own population, and now your begging for an alliance. lol China's population density has exceeded its optimal value and will be plunging into poverty anytime soon now, were it not for the slave labor jobs in place their by American companies they would already be there now. A lot of american companies were downsized to move to china, which is not a good election base to be standing on should the candidate agree to free trade with china.

ps

Originally posted by peacworld

when america thought indian could become his ally,a indian say"(i am dian't intentionally aim at indian,just because a indian Daedalus3 in this topic say that)my "axis of evil" is my utopian alliance to counter the west.. "
i thought many indian have the same opinion,that's be derived from indian's culture,if you pay some attention on india,you'll find india is greey in other country's territory,and india neve treat these country which infirmness than her egality.i am so amazing by that,i think if india become strong,she must became a second Soviet Union.but in american's eyes india is a democracy country.i have to say judge a country whether you ally is not by the county whether a democracy country.be a chinese i thought why our must counter west?that's funny!


you sound just like kahn and ming here from King of the Hill, LOL
den then den then den den den dren den dreeen


Say it " You indians are a bunch of hillbillies and rednecks"

[edit on 3-30-2005 by websurfer]




Hi, websurfer

I am a chinese in UK. Althought I don't agree what peacworld's personal judgement about indian.....cos I got couple of indian friends and quite get on with them....I believe most of indians are very nice people....

But I say you are no better than pacworld, you are judging 1.3 billion people just because you just heard one people's personnal opinion. you are so infantility.
I think I have no problem to judge one person you. But I believe most of the people in your nation are nice people.........

You are saying we don't have multi-cultures. There are 56 different minorities in our country, yes we are all chinese, similar like america have muti cultures. but thet share their different cultures. I were growing up in one of biggest Islamic community and studied in Islamic school. we have different cultures but We never had any major problems. You are saying we are racialism country. We give more benifit to minorities than ourself, they have more social welfare than we do....

We respect and appreciate indian culture very much, Everyone knows The chinese historical biggest and most popular religion is Buddhism from india thousands years ago.

Don't get us wrong my indian friends, Please don't count one people's judgement as whole country.... Most chinese historically respect and appreciate indian as very close friend today and tomorrow.....








[edit on 30-3-2005 by wfliu]



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by peacworld


when america thought indian could become his ally,a indian say"(i am dian't intentionally aim at indian,just because a indian Daedalus3 in this topic say that)my "axis of evil" is my utopian alliance to counter the west.. "
i thought many indian have the same opinion,that's be derived from indian's culture,if you pay some attention on india,you'll find india is greey in other country's territory,and india neve treat these country which infirmness than her egality.i am so amazing by that,i think if india become strong,she must became a second Soviet Union.but in american's eyes india is a democracy country.i have to say judge a country whether you ally is not by the county whether a democracy country.be a chinese i thought why our must counter west?that's funny!


Im sorry I didn't understand a thing you said..
Ans os I don't know if you understood what I said..

any interepreters??


[edit on 30-3-2005 by Daedalus3]



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 08:32 AM
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Funny topic.
It's shame to close the door to slander somebody else.



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 08:34 AM
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Hey...cool Iamairforce.. your english is improving!..great going..



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by rapier28
No, i don't really see a showdown.

Frankly, China couldn't care less if the U.S remained the lone superpower in the World. China will never seek the number 1 or 2 position in the World, it is not in China's nature, that is why China has survived all these years.

The only thing that could trigger conflict is Tiawan, and it will be a limited conflict at worst.


i dont buy one word of it.

Limited conflict?? World War 3 more like. The land grab will only just begin. If it kicks off proper China and North Korean will take a pop at Japan never mind Taiwan - Seoul is going to light up with artilery shells. Russia, India and Pakistan would go on high alert. I cant believe how you can play down the scale of the matter?

Not in China's Nature?? Who knows what is their nature - Submarines popping up in Japanese water - Spy Boats off India - not to mention the military build up and the open threat to invade Tiawan.


With this Taiwan question i think China is the most likely nation that the US will enter into a theater wide conflict. (although small but the highest)

The US remains vigilant and will be ready. How can you say China is going to remain passive??


[edit on 30-3-2005 by Vanguard]



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by peacworld
to NWguy83:
i insist on that if you want to discuss china you should do a lot working at research chinese
history,then,you will found what we'll do and what is we want.taiwan is apart of china,you known
that?and why we should felt taiwan alone?that's just like some country told USA "you should let
NEW YORK alone"!that's funny.and my puzzle is that why we can't solve taiwan problem by unpeaceful
resort,taiwan is belong to china,but america could warring in Iraq?if the war in iraq's purpose is
protect the american's safe,but what is the reason you warring in taiwan?protect the people in taiwan?
they are chinese too.the taiwan problem is chinese problem,it's our problem,not your,you didn't have the
right and qualification in the question.be american mybe you'll never known what's attitude every chinese
have on the integrity of territory.be a commen chinese,i can tell you,if one day my county need me and
even my life,i'll never scruple.and how many american want pay their life on another county's problem,
the whole thing is off the mark of american.we pay whatever we have.for thousands years,we have the same
attitude in these problem.please trust me.
as for the human rights,i want to ask you if you have been to china?you real known the situation we live
in.i can tell you,we have enough human rights,and every year the human rights is improving.i didn't want to
say more in these problem,we choose the diffent way,is complex to say.the fundamentality problem in china is
economic problem,when the economic developed the other problems are solved too.i think america goverment known
this,but why they adopt the policy keep within limits china?i doubt the purpose of america goverment,they really
want to inprove the human rights in china.
about steal you weapons technology,is hard to say,no one have the certitude attestation."li wen he"you known,who
working in a nucleus laboratory,the thing what has happend in him proved that some american fake in "china steal
usa's weapons technology" for some propose,that's only my opinion.you needn'd so angry in this problem,anycountry
wants steal other countries technology,you can't deny that.


* China didn't care about Taiwan till the Communists came to power and the nationalists fled there. Taiwan is only a territory of China, not a state. Some people have tried to compare it to California, when they should be comparing it to Puerto Rico. If Puerto Rico really wanted to become a country, we would let it. Taiwan has been a de-facto nation for more than 50 years, since it has governed itself. So why on Earth does China want it so badly? Probably because President Hu has been trying to raise his popularity by saying stuff like 'Taiwan will be taken by force if necessary' etc.

* Even the UN says China's human rights are still lacking. And all of you Chinese give the same pathetic excuse, "Well we are trying to improve our economy". What does that even have to do with human rights?

* Of course everyone tries to steal weapons technology. But China puts the rest of the world to shame when it comes to its efforts to steal foreign weapons.



[edit on 30-3-2005 by NWguy83]



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by rapier28

Originally posted by Vanguard
Great civilizations have always colided - its in our nature. There is no point denying it. US and China are heading for a showdown.

China will not remain passive and weak. Is see China's posturing but I await their move.

[edit on 30-3-2005 by Vanguard]


No, i don't really see a showdown.

Frankly, China couldn't care less if the U.S remained the lone superpower in the World. China will never seek the number 1 or 2 position in the World, it is not in China's nature, that is why China has survived all these years.

The only thing that could trigger conflict is Taiwan, and it will be a limited conflict at worst.


Ha ha ha! Then why is China working its a$$ to become a superpower... While at the same time paying lip-service to 'peaceful rise'.



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 04:03 PM
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Yeah right china doesn't care if the US is the only superpower. They are giving the EU anything they want just to lift the weapons embargo and they are trying to dominate the east market. China is doing all it can to try and become a superpower.



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 04:05 PM
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So because thier trying to improve thier country to get respect that means they want to beceome a super power and challange the US?

....Paranioa talking here people!



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 04:09 PM
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the Vietnamese fears China, not to mention Taiwan, makes you wonder why we should fear China ourselves.



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
the Vietnamese fears China, not to mention Taiwan, makes you wonder why we should fear China ourselves.

How many countries fear the US?
Hundreds...
Makes you wonder if us (the UK) shouldnt worry about them...



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
So because thier trying to improve thier country to get respect that means they want to beceome a super power and challange the US?

....Paranioa talking here people!


The simple answer to your question is yes.


Originally posted by devilwasp
How many countries fear the US?
Hundreds...
Makes you wonder if us (the UK) shouldnt worry about them...


And thats the way i want it to stay - its what your ancestors fought for and what your securing for your children.

Ill make it simple for you - its very much like a living in the wild/evolution - the weak never survive and kindness i rarely appreciated.


[edit on 30-3-2005 by Vanguard]



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Vanguard
The simple answer to your question is yes.

Okey if you want to listen to that little voice in your head telling you everyone is out to get you go ahead...



And thats the way i want it to stay - its what your ancestors fought for and what your securing for your children.

No my ancestors fought for my country to suirvive and their familes NOT to intimidate and hurt people.


Ill make it simple for you - its very much like a living in the wild/evolution - the weak never survive

Define me "weak"....
The dictionary term is
having little physical or spiritual strength
But I dont believe in this...I've seen a boy with little strength beat a man who could canoe a mile in 12 mins...



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