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Culture of Life solicits for murder of Michael Schiavo and Judge

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posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 11:58 PM
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Here is someone from the 'culture of life' soliciting for a hitman to kill Michael Shiavo and a Judge in the case.


Authorities said Richard Alan Meywes of Fairview, North Carolina, offered $250,000 for the killing of Michael Schiavo and another $50,000 for the death of Circuit Court Judge George Greer
solicitation for murder

The hypocracy of the new phrase 'culture of life' is really about mono-culture.

They want to flood the face of the planet with nothing but human beings.
Brain-dead people will do.

Are there any right-to-lifers culture of lifers that actually care about any other living species on this planet? Maybe some of them still like their dogs. I sure hope so.

If there are any environmentally friendly right-to-lifers out there, please feel free to suprise me and let me know.

Most of them support the support the death penalty, even when it is so regularly wrongly imposed.

Obviously some culture of lifer's even support murder for hire.

Should i hold my breath waiting for the Right-to-life mafia with uzis to rear its ugly head?
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posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 12:15 AM
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He's the same type of person that would bomb an abortion clinic to save lives. These people are hypocrits of the worse kind. the, "I'll kill you if you don't save their life", kind of people.
The funny thing is, they don't seem to know that they're hypocrits.



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 12:54 AM
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That's ridiculous.

And if life is so precious to them, where WERE they when Sun Hudson needed help?
www.chron.com...

His mother was given 10 days to find a hospital or hospice that would take him and keep him on the ventilator. But he was Black and she was poor.

Where were all those champions? There have been 3-4 of these deaths where babies were removed from life support. These loving heroes rush off to save Terri, but it seems they can't be bothered to crusade for the others.

You called it, NotTooHappy. They're hypocrites.



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 01:24 AM
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Looks like another pro-life bash on ATS....

Well,
1)this guy who supposedly solicited the murder is ONE person among many.
2)If we are to judge the pro-life/culture of life movement by the actions of one person then, in all fairness, we should judge the pro-abortion/pro-euthanasia movement by the actions of Hitler and Stalin
3)It's interesting that the 'culture of life 'movement is being bashed on ATS'. All of these members complain about government power... and yet they all support a disposable concept of humanity (wherein a person's value is based on their utility)...?

[edit on 29-3-2005 by onlyinmydreams]

[edit on 29-3-2005 by onlyinmydreams]



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 08:46 AM
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The culture of deathers continue their pro-life bash


Hey folks ... reality check. Every group has it's nuts. One person (out
of tens of millions of pro life people) wigs out and you yahoos decide
that ALL pro-life people are hypocrites? Brilliant.


Slank said -

Obviously some culture of lifer's even support murder for hire.

ALL culture of deathers support murder for hire.
That's what abortion is. Hire a 'doctor' to painfully kill a
helpless unborn child in an abortuary death factory.

Slank said -

Most of them support the support the death penalty,
even when it is so regularly wrongly imposed.

I do not support the death penalty, however I will say that the
death penalty is the killing of those who refuse to follow societies
rules and who are a threat to others. Abortion is the killing of
the innocent unborn who have harmed no one. There is a difference
in the method and reasoning of death. I do not support the death
penalty however (unfortunately) it is legal in this country and I work
within the system (and pray) for it to change. The death penalty has
been wrongly imposed ... but your use of the word 'regularly' needs
backing up. Links or other info to back up the word 'regularly' please.

Slank said -

Are there any right-to-lifers culture of lifers that actually
care about any other living species on this planet? If there are
any environmentally friendly right-to-lifers out there...


Random House Dictionary def. of Bigot - A person who is utterly
intolerant of any creed, belilef, or race that is not his own. Look
deeply Slank ... you are profiling without any facts to back it up.
Do you also sterotype that all blacks are slow-witted, or that
all Mexicans are lazy?

While I know of no studies done to see who owns pets in this country
- culture of death vs pro-life... I can only look around at the people I
know and give you some (badly needed) insight. We are pro-life and
we have a beagle (Daisy) and fish. She sleeps on the beds, eats great,
plays and has more doggie toys than most human children in our 'hood.
My parents are pro-life and have cats. They have always had cats.
The cats live nice long lives and are very happy - purring all the time and
having wonderful naps in the sun in the windows. Both my parents and
our family give to the World Wild Life Fund. My parents have left $$$ in
their will to the ASPCA and they donate to them frequently throughout
the year. BTW the squirrles and birds at my parents house are the
fattest and best fed in the entire town. ALL the prolife families that we
get together with have dogs or cats. One family has rabbits and
hamsters as well. I don't know about other pro-life families, but those
that we spend time with all have pets that are well taken care of.

Indellkoffer said

where WERE they when Sun Hudson needed help?
www.chron.com...
.... But he was Black and she was poor.


And he was terminally ill. TERMAINALLY ILL. Terri Schiavo was perfectly
healthy except for the brain damage. Her body was fine and there were
people willing to take care of her AT HOME - to feed her, bath her, and
everything. The TERMINALLY ILL baby couldn't live without the machines
and was on life support. Terri was not and could easily have lived at
home with her parents.

That had nothing to do with the person's color or economic status.

BTW - the Margaret Sanger was basically the inventor of Planned Parent
Hood and abortion. Google her up and take a look at her beliefs. Then
try to tell me that pro-lifers hate black or poor people. Abortion in this
country was pushed upon the poor and black for a reason. Margaret
Sanger wanted to be rid of them. So in fact, it is the culture of deathers
that support a system that kills unborn black children where as the
Pro-life culture wants ALL children to continue to live, no matter what
the color of their skin happens to be.

Another BTW - we are Pro-Life and we are an interracial family. Our
daughter is adopted and is hispanic. We are not racists.


And yes, we plant at least one tree each year on arbor day.


[edit on 3/29/2005 by FlyersFan]



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 02:42 AM
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onlyinmydreams,

I am a capitalist who supports the right to choose about your own life.
If one chooses to commit suicide, who the h*ll is the government to object?

Am i a slave of the state? Government property?

Euthanasia is something imposed from without. This about the right to choose for yourself. Neither being forced to live or die should be imposed from without, this is something for each individual to determine for themselves.

Just as the 'Culture of life' wants to impose life on people suffering and in pain who simply choose to end the pain sooner rather than later, This guy wants to impose death on someone because they aren't doing what he wants.

Don't need Christian dictators telling me or anyone what to do.

You may have US government property or owned by god tattooed on you. I have not.

You may think somekind of socialist/communist values are ok. If you want someone or something else to own your life that is your choice, don't force it on other people.

This is about the right to choose, but we know you don't want people to choose for themselves, you want your religion and government to be telling people what they can and cannot do.

Ever heard of freedom?

Civilized freedom means you can do anything/nothing with/to yourself you choose to as long as it does not objectively infringe on others.

Some of us don't need government or religion to monitor our lives and tell us what to do.

I've seen how governments and religions operate, excuse me, but i think i can do just as well and probably better at determining my own life.
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posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 12:13 PM
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How is this thread a pro-life bash? Just because it points out hypocrisy in the pro-life movement? Also, it didn't pretend like some pro-lifers are the only hypocrites...you assumed it said that Flyersfan. You just don't want to admit that the Terri supporters are doing dirt in this whole fiasco. I bet you didn't hear how the Schindlers authorized conservative groups to solicit people who donated money to Terri, did you?

It's on a thread here, check it out. I guess Michael is the only one all about the Benjamins.
Too bad he turned down 10 mil. Take the blinders off and admit that not everyone lacks ulterior motives in this tragic case.



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 12:18 PM
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One person. You just pointed out one crack-pot and decided that every Christian or right to lifer is like that.

Hey, are you German? Hitler was a really bad guy, and he was German. If you're German, you must want to kill all Jews.

Hey, are you Mexican? A Mexican came over the US border illegally. If you're living in the US, you must be an illegal alien.


The hypocracy of the new phrase 'culture of life' is really about mono-culture.


Thought that statement was hilarious, but then I really enjoy irony.



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by truthseeka
Just because it points out hypocrisy in the pro-life movement?

I bet you didn't hear how the Schindlers authorized conservative groups to solicit people who donated money to Terri, did you?


You bet wrong. Yep, I heard that just fine (thanks Rant). That has
absolutely nothing to do with the title of this thread. Red herring.

And yes, this is a pro-life bash. Take a look again .... one person
out of tens of millions of pro lifers wigs out and suddenly you get
people here posting junk like -

- pro lifers don't care about any other species other than humans
- pro lifers don't care about the environment
- doubts that any pro lifers love pets
- pro lifers all believe in the death penalty
- pro lifers are all hypocrites
- pro lifers are all hyprocrites of the worst kind.

Not just 'a few pro lifers' ... they said 'pro-lifers' .. which means all.

DEFINATELY a pro-life bash thread. Every group has nuts... but
suddenly one nut out of tens of millions becomes an excuse for
bigotry and ignorance to state the above garbage.



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 08:09 PM
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Truly my impression of so-called Pro-lifers is they don't seem to care for any species that are not domesticated.

Pro-lifers like dogs, [a few may like cats], they like livestock to butcher and eat.
Do you support ANY conservation of the environment?
Do you like birds and trees and fish in the ocean [other than to eat till extinct]?
Do you support a single government policy that restricts the human ravaging, exploitation of any natural landscape what-so-ever?

They seem to only accept people who share exactly their constricted set of values.

Not domesticated means non-culturally hydebound people and wild living creatures and plants.

This guy was soliciting for a hitman.
Is this really very far from the norm of the so-called 'right-to-lifers'?
How about abortion clinic bombers and the people who shelter them?
How about assination of doctors?

Honestly the general precept i get is they are against anything [but God] being wild.

They of course accept when ever God behaves like a raging out-of-control child throwing a super-natural temper tantrum.

Could it be they are mind-slaves and dislike/hate anything else that isn't too?

The vision I get of the world these people would like to create is a monotonous world of automatons or just complete steriliztion of the Universe.
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posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 08:15 PM
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Slank, are you getting this impression from the nuts that make the news, or from your conversations with pro-lifers in real life and here on ATS? Because it sounds like you're getting it from those wackos...



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 08:36 PM
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So the life of the judge is less than the life of Michael.

That judge better be outrage about the cheapness of the solicitors


Yeah every group has his loonies but I will have to point out every time that pro-life loonies has bomb abortion clinics without regards to the live of the people around them.


Its not about life is about self righteous punishment in the name of their god.



posted on Mar, 31 2005 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by slank
Pro-lifers ... like livestock to butcher and eat.

So .. only pro-lifers go to Burger King? Yeah, right.


Do you support ANY conservation of the environment?

Those that are good for the environment and good for America, yes.
The Kyoto garbage, no.

Do you like birds and trees and fish in the ocean
[other than to eat till extinct]?

Guess you didn't see the part about giving the the World Wildlife
Fund, did you? Or are you just being selective with what you read
because it is more fun for you to hang on to your preconcieved
anti-prolife notions? And again ... only pro-lifers eat fish?

Missed the part about planting trees for arbor day each
year too. Are you bothering to read ANYTHING that is
being posted here that doesn't match what you think
Pro-lifers are like???


This guy was soliciting for a hitman. Is this really very
far from the norm of the so-called 'right-to-lifers'?

Already answered that question but I quess you don't like the
answer. Yes, it is very much far from the norm for pro-lifers.
Try to read this and let it sink in ... there are tens of millions
of pro-life people in this country. One wigs out. That definately
makes him out of the norm. The math is there. Try to get
past your desire to hate pro-lifers and try to understand the
facts.


How about abortion clinic bombers and the people who
shelter them? How about assination of doctors?
And
there have been very few murders and bombings, haven't there?
The few who did those things are murderers or at the very least
wingnuts. ALL groups have wing nuts. They need to be locked up.

I lived in Alabama when the abortuary was bombed in Birmingham.
The police and FBI contacted the pro-life community and we all
cooperated with them in an effort to find the bomber. We all had
what the FBI thought was his license plate # and car type. We all
had discriptions of the suspect and we all kept an eye out for him
at any pro-life prayer gathering we attended. The pro-life community
does not approve of bombing abortuaries. No one in the pro-life
community sheltered the bomber, and in fact we all were on the
look out for him with picture in hand and a hotline to the police and
FBI. Us moms with baby strollers had a rosary in one hand, and a
picture of the suspect with a FBI phone number in the other.


Honestly the general precept i get ..

Honestly, the general precept you get is because you aren't reading
what I have posted. You WANT to hate pro-life people. Who really
is full of uneducated hate?? Pro-lifers or YOU? Answer - you.


[edit on 3/31/2005 by FlyersFan]



posted on Mar, 31 2005 @ 07:48 AM
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"We mustn't let those people in there commit suicide! Even if we have to kill every last one of them!" - ATF Agent on South Park.

How true...



posted on Mar, 31 2005 @ 07:55 AM
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my thoughts...................what are the beliefs of this particular grp this fella was involved in???

i mean does the grp as a whole support the killing of MS and the judge? or as someone pointed out.........this guy is just a nutcase and acting alone?

i have a hard time with this................you don't agree with all the different courts opinions so hhhmmmmmm LET ME HIRE A HIT MAN???? that doesn't sound like the thinking of a rational person to me.


angie




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