Originally posted by apc
Agreed that noone can really know for sure what happened to them, but I define nature as contained within our globe.
Ahhh... Gotcha. Yes, I can see where you're coming from: sort of like the Gaia. So what would be a good term then to describe an ELE meteor falling
from space of it's own accord? I always considered it nature for lack of an additional term to describe things that happen without artificial
Originally posted by apc
I think all it would have taken to send a species down the path ending at our equal would have been the equivalent of a dino chimp...
...and becoming omnivoric...
Oh, I agree there. An omnivore would almost certainly be a good boost towards sentience on our planet, or a combination of food groups. I suppose a
mineral or photosynthetic diet could enter into the food groups as well.
To expand on your idea: one of the requirements of one of the neccessary food groups would be the same type as the being to gain sentience. For
instance, as humans, we are omnivores. Not only are we animals, but we eat animals as well. Even though eating human flesh is not exactly commonplace,
that biological instinct of knowing
our fellow man is also a predator designed to kill us, and us to kill them, demands for more advances in
ways to protect against each other and kill. Were humans, say, plant and mineral
eaters instead, I don't think we would have advanced nearly
as far as we have, because we'd have so much less adversity against ourselves.
So, using this logic, if you had a planet where animal life never developed, and most plants were photosynthetic or
parasitic plants, but one
type of plant fed on other plants and minerals, with no photosynthesis, then in theory, the plants would continue to develop new ways of defense and
attack. These methods would become more and more complex until eventually some sort of brainlike area would develop within in the plant to control
these functions independantly of the instinctual level. Perhaps the fruit these plants bore would act as an array of brains (so the loss of one would
not cause the plant to die), or perhaps it'd be an area in the trunk, where it could be more heavily protected by the plant's other defenses.
Since animal life would never have developed, there would be nothing to aeriate the soil (perhaps the justification for a plant needing to eat other
plants, because of the lack of available soil). It would stand to reason that eventually plants would have to adapt ways to move to better soil or
hunting grounds, requiring more brain activity. Since the intelligent plants could just as well feed off each other, eventually a concept of territory
would be developed. Since territory would be hard to defend at first, perhaps the plants find a way to use teamwork as a defense, sharing the
available resources and arriving at some sort of chemical understanding whereby the do not attack each other. This would now require any plants
attacking that territory to develop tactics for attack, which requires new defenses, which require new attacks, until the plants reach the end of
their physical capabilities, and perhaps the next evolution brings about the use of simple tools...
...and so on.
I have no idea how long a process like this would take, but it seems possible, if unlikely.
... along with a tiny species of elephant...
Guinea Elephant!! I want one!
I too am a Libra... we shall rule the world! And then think of an excuse not to deal with it...
I'd rather not have a guinea elephant. I'm more of a mammoth kinda guy... mammoths, with frickin' "laser beams" attached to their heads.
As for ruling the world, it's my goal eventually. Perhaps I can unite all Libras under one banner, and lead them into battle, using elephants and
"laser beams" for the final battle.