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NEWS: Fans of Mexican Soccer Team Shouts Osama and Throws Objects at US Team

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posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 06:36 AM
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For 71 years the US soccer team has never beaten the Mexicans at Home and until yesterday had not scored a goal since 1984. However, this was not the main point of yesterdays predicted loss. The Fans of the Mexican team booed the American National Anthem, and chanted "Osama" while throwing small objects like trash at the American Team.
 



msn.foxsports.com
The crowd booed the U.S. national anthem and a spattering of fans chanted "Osama! Osama!" before play started, and shortly after Lewis' goal.

The deafening and rabidly nationalistic celebrations in 100,000-seat Azteca Stadium, at near capacity, didn't stop when Lavolpe was expelled for arguing in the 41st minute. He received a standing ovation from many while being escorted off the field.

About 100 people gathered for a peaceful celebration near Mexico City's Angel of Independence monument following the game. A few tried to burn a small American flag but ended up trampling on it.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Many may feel that this is just a small rivalry and that there is no reason for caution with the jeers and anti-american actions, but you do not see the Red Sox parading around after the world series that their buildings are not hit by planes. I may be going to far with this, but I have a weird feeling about the Mexicans being so anti-America. Especially since they can come over our borders so freely.

Also, lets just look at history: The year is 1917 and the US has been isolated during the conflict in Europe, but the Germans knew that they would eventually join the conflict. So, they sent a coded telegraph to the Mexicans pledging German support for the return of the South West US to Mexico. British Intel however, cracked the code and told the US (sacrificing months and months of hard work) thereby drawing the US into the conflict and saving Europe.

Another interesting tangent is with the destruction of the Ottoman Empire (the last great Islamic empire) at the end of WWI, this is a main pillar of Osama Bin Laden's hatred for the west. The US, had it not joined the conflict, would have never won the war for the west and therefore the Ottoman's would have survived.

Related News Links:
www.washtimes.com
drudgereport.com

[edit on 28-3-2005 by CAConrad0825]




posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 08:20 AM
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Wow...

Your drawing some pretty long bows with those assertions there.

Not saying it's right or not, but it is pretty out there.



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 09:44 AM
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Drunk and/or rowdy sports fans should not dictate national policy, nor should they necessarily be used as a barometer of national feelings. Ever been to a British football or "soccer" game? It can get quite tense, yet these folks are not an indicator of national fervor.



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 09:57 AM
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This kind of reminds me of a hockey game a couple years ago in Montreal.
When the American anthem played the fans all booed



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 10:03 AM
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It has always been like that.

At least here, in Balkans. Especially in Football. Can you imagine what kind of Riots can arise out of a game between the Zagreb team of Dinamo and Belgrade football team of Partizan? Political slogans and shouts by the fans get to the EXTREME here! They are more national-ethnic-provocations, then sport slogans.

And this is no exception.



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 10:15 AM
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I can't figure out if this is a news piece or OP/ED. From Mexico and soccer the the Ottoman Empire in WW I?

The Washington Times link has what to do with soccer? Reads to me like a MS-13 gang URL. Same with Drudge.

I voted for the piece anyway. I still don't follow the logic if there is any.



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 10:24 AM
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This is nothing new.. I agree with the above posts. Football fans can be very hostile, especially in some European countries. Untill now, the teams have just had to deal with it.

My cousin who plays for AC Milan for example gets booed everytime he touches the ball in games against Lazio Roma. Because he's black. Other black players have been greeted to monkey chants before and have had banana's thrown at them. No joke.



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 10:57 AM
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Other black players have been greeted to monkey chants before and have had banana's thrown at them. No joke.


I've never heard of anything like that. That has to be one of the saddest and most disturbing things I've ever read.

You know... sometimes I watch those shows on TV that broadcast insane things going on. Like crazy police chases and the like. Sometimes they show riots at soccer games. Something like a hard hit, or a missed goal, or a poorly called penalty can lead to a full scale riot at these games. Wasn't there once a story about a goalie who lost the game for his team and was then murdered?

Consider those stories, and then consider the story thebandit posted. Is that what you'd call civilized? Monkey chants at an athlete? Cheering on someone who murdered countless people? Is that what you'd call civilized?

As an American I thank the Mexican fans for booing my national anthem, because if you're the type of person who would call another human being a monkey, shoot someone for missing a goal, or cheer on a murderer, you don't deserve to even hear it played.

[edit on 3-28-2005 by Djarums]



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 10:58 AM
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The correllation between WWI and the event is proving that history repeats itself and you can obviously see that there is a connection. Mexico has always wanted the territory is lost during the mexican american war back and that was what i was trying to make a connection with.

All too often people do not look at the past. Heck, VH1 has a show about last week (to quote Brian Williams on The Daily Show). Read a history book or two. Things do have connections between the past and present.



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 11:44 AM
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Well it's certainly within their rights to yell whatever they want at this soccer match. Howwever, perhaps we should start sending all captured illegal immigrants off to Islamic Countries in the Middle East rather than back home to Mexico....see how they like Osama then! Just a thought!



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 11:56 AM
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It is absolutely within their rights to yell whatever they want. In fact I believe they SHOULD yell whatever they want in order for the rest of the world to gauge the collective intelligence of the people engaging in such activities in general.

What is NOT within their rights, at least in the United States, is to throw objects at athletes on a playing field. It creates a hazardous condition in which both athletes and other fans can be injured. What a pity some countries simply do not give a damn about the health and safety of their own citizens who did nothing more than attend a sports exhibition.



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 12:43 PM
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Yes they have a right to speak their mind if they were in the US. However i am not brushed up on the freedom of speech rights in mexico. Also, if the US is so bad then why are they coming to here? Just a thought.



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 04:02 PM
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Tacky tacky...
I would suggest that we yell back things like ...well nevermind...
but then we would just be bending to their level...

that they would yell OSAMA... just shows that they didn't graduate grade school like the rest of his followers...

can't hate them for being ignorant...



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by Djarums
As an American I thank the Mexican fans for booing my national anthem, because if you're the type of person who would call another human being a monkey,

Yeah, the US is a fine example of how all races can get along together!

Originally posted by Djarums
shoot someone for missing a goal,

Americans have shot people for a lot less.

Originally posted by Djarums
or cheer on a murderer, you don't deserve to even hear it played.
[edit on 3-28-2005 by Djarums]

Yeah, OJ Simpsons fans all celebrated in silence!



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
can't hate them for being ignorant...


Thats what the rest of the world said after the last 2 US elections.



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 05:04 PM
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For people who come and go, and stay without papers, and laws dont mean diddley to them...For people who take every advantage known to man either themselves or some relative who takes all the advantages and sends them money..IMHO they should have behaved a little nicer.

They should have settled for Osama...now that's funny...as if to say "where's Osama" LOL... But objects flying? nah...

They forget they have a lot to be thankful for, after all arent they allowed entry to the US most of the time? Sure they are...
They shouldnt bite the hand that feeds them...

Note: I dont have anything against Mexicans. If this were a story about Chinese i would feel the same way



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 06:24 PM
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from dg
Note: I dont have anything against Mexicans. If this were a story about Chinese i would feel the same way.


So you hate Mexicans and Chinese!
j/k

I guess the Mexicans take their soccer (not football) pretty seriously. When you think about it, what else do they have to be happy about, except for the prospect of slipping over the border into the US?



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by CAConrad0825
Also, lets just look at history: The year is 1917 and the US has been isolated during the conflict in Europe, but the Germans knew that they would eventually join the conflict. So, they sent a coded telegraph to the Mexicans pledging German support for the return of the South West US to Mexico. British Intel however, cracked the code and told the US (sacrificing months and months of hard work) thereby drawing the US into the conflict and saving Europe.[edit on 28-3-2005 by CAConrad0825]


Deny Ignorance. The Zimmerman Telegram was not sent to the Mexicans, but rather was a "message sent from the German Minister in Mexico to the German Ambassador in the U.S."

German to German, Herr Conrad. A threat to wage illegal unrestricted submarine warfare against Americans, English, Mexicans, or any other nationality unfortunate enough to be in the crosshairs of a U-Boat. An attempt to drive a wedge between two North American brothers- the US and Mexico. A ploy rejected by the Mexicans:



Of all the major European powers competing for influence in Mexico, the Germans were one of the most conspicuous in their attempts to shape Mexican policy. It is all the more surprising, therefore, that virtually none of their objectives ever reached fruition, and even the negative achievement of avoiding conflict with the United States was completely demolished by the proposals of the Zimmerman Telegram.


Mexico is a Catholic Nation. The US has no stronger ally in resistance to Islam than Mexico, a few besotted football fans notwithstanding. As Hispanics, we have been in resistance against Islam for 1400 years.

Visit Cancun, or just buy a Corona at the corner grocery. Mexico has and has always had the best interests of the Americas at heart, because we live here. We are the Native people here, and we aren't going anywhere. You all are welcome to stay with us; but please don't confuse us with your enemies, who are also our enemies.

Relax. Calm down. Enjoy the beer.



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 10:40 PM
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this is my first post on this site, and i must say that there sure is a lot of ignorance and racism prevalant here. by coming here i was hoping to engage in some intelligent dialogue with some informed and enlightened people. i guess i will have to play the role of the educator if i stay here, or just find another site to find some intelligent dialogue.

i hope the posts elsewhere on this board are not as xenophobic and ignorant as a plethora of those i have read in this thread.



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 10:46 PM
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This has nothing to do with racism. I, myself am Hispanic.

This is about a nation and ungreatfulness on their part.




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