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Originally posted by zakattack
this has probably been asked before but what requirements do you have to have to be a US fighter pilot, i mean can you go to any recruiting center and say i want to be a F-15 fighter pilot, then go through there extremely tough course and if you are lucky enough to pass be able to fly a fighter jet
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
How long do Indian pilots train before they take the controls of their aircraft?
However it must be noted that the MKI is a very impressive aircraft and all the mock fights were probably knife fights rather than BVR or MVR fights.
But we are comparing just planes now, not pilots, nor airforces/navies etc.
Originally posted by KyleChemist
One can't campare "just planes" becaus aerial combat (barring any extremes such as F/A-22 vs Cessena) will always come down to the pilot. period. There are almost too many historical references that prove this to mention.
So the Super Hornet and Su-37 are both amazing aircraft, but neither one is significantly better than the other to negate the skill of the pilot as the deciding factor.
As mentioned about, a well trained F-4 crew from back in the day could beat a young stud in either one.
[edit on 29-3-2005 by KyleChemist]
so what your saying is a ace in a Mig21 or mig27 or mig29 can shoot down a rookie F-22 pilot??
Technology helps win in almost all scenerios, with the F22s first look First shot first Kill capability i dont think no matter how good of mig pilot you got he is going to get shot down or he is goin to turn around and head home, nothing more frustrating then trying to Find something on your radar that can hardly be detected and having it shoot missiles at you, and your doing serious manuevers to evade
pilot skills do help but you make it sound like US has ill trained pilots, US pilots train more and harder then anyone else and some pilots were getting real life experience while flying the no fly zone and in the 1st and 2nd Iraq war
I wonder when the last time a russian fighter pilot got into A2A combat, i would bet it has been a long long time and probably even longer for China or NK, they can simulate on the computer games all they want but no better experience then real life situation.
Originally posted by longbow
Su-37 is not produced, but when produced it would be much better. Let's face it folks the F-18 E/F looks more like the interim solution than a new generation fighter. It has not even all the capabilities orginally proposed for F-18+ program. Especially it's menuvrability sucks, the F-18 C/d can fly circles around it. I also don't think it has a better radar - at least Su-37 has more place in the nose for the radar dish so I would sayif eqipped with newest russian AESA it's radar has better range. The only thing that has F-18E better is RCS, but it is still not stealth, more like eurofighter. (somewhere I read the RCS estimates are 1m2 for F-18, while 0.5-0.8m2 for Typhoon- of course those are just estimates.)
Not me...And I'm sure many ppl (non-russian) agree with me on this..
USAF is by far the most logistically deployable but not the best..at lest not proven to be better than its rumored fighter equivalents..
Originally posted by KyleChemist
Thank you AceOfCombat!! Somone who gets it! Pilot skill trumps technology every time. History has proven this, and it will be proven again in the future.
Originally posted by Taishyou
The F/A-18E/F has a very good electronics suite including the AESA radar which will be added soon. However, in terms of raw performance the F/A-18E/F is actually much worse than the previous F/A-18C/D.