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A plan to infiltrate area 51!

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posted on Jul, 30 2006 @ 11:22 AM
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Ignore him. the Groom Lake in The Google Earth photos are real. They are just outdated.




posted on Jul, 30 2006 @ 05:38 PM
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"They arent real and they are out of date"

Erm they are either one or the other my friend. Yes they are real just out of date as others have said already. It doesnt matter if people see satellite images, It's whats inside that is kept secret which is only aircraft being produced and then tested along with some other stuff.

It doesnt matter how many pictures you have because it's a fact that you wont get anywhere near it to get valuable information, And you wont get any information from satellite pictures either so it really isnt a big deal if google earth have published images like that.



posted on Jul, 30 2006 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by CTFL
"They arent real and they are out of date"

Erm they are either one or the other my friend. Yes they are real just out of date as others have said already. It doesnt matter if people see satellite images, It's whats inside that is kept secret which is only aircraft being produced and then tested along with some other stuff.

It doesnt matter how many pictures you have because it's a fact that you wont get anywhere near it to get valuable information, And you wont get any information from satellite pictures either so it really isnt a big deal if google earth have published images like that.


The reason why there arent any photo's of planes or ships anywhere outside the bunkers and hangars in Area 51. Is because they know when the satellites are flying over the base. So they'll know when to not having any "objects" out on the grounds. Or they are hidden under the camoflauged tents. There was a show on Area 51 on saturday morning which discussed all this. The people there aren't stupid, and know how the IKONOS satellite flies over the base every 4 days(And whichever other satellite).

What I have been thinking is that, what we see on top of the grounds is the above ground base. And the Hangars may be elevators that go down a few levels to the underground bases. Since that whole lake bed is so flat, It must be easy enough to build a massive underground base where they store all the crafts, and "secret" workers (ufo's) and there secret operations. This is just my opinion.



posted on Jul, 30 2006 @ 09:05 PM
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And getting into this base,

stealth handgliding


it must be impossible. But the person who posted below, by having a few hundred to thousand people coming by and taking down the guards seems possible. But then when crossing into the range, just imagine how high the radioactivity could be, that supposedly was left from all the bomb tests.



posted on Jul, 31 2006 @ 11:01 AM
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There isn't much remaining radioactivity. If there was, then there wouldn't be a base there!



posted on Jul, 31 2006 @ 04:27 PM
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You won't see anything from the Air! you might as well use google Earth if you're gonna do that, How about getting 400-500 people taking the base by surprise and get in before they have time to hide anything. surely they wont shoot that many people! I will stay at home and watch on BBC News 24



posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 02:15 PM
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Just find where the tunnels Exit the base, get a shovel and dig!



posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 08:26 PM
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Try diging through miles of bedrock... I think you might need some explosives, and they just might give away your secrecy.....



posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 09:01 PM
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Or you could just walk up to the front gate and tell them you have a double order of wings for a Mr. Alf.

But really, just go to the Black Mailbox, sit and wait for the show to begin. And RanchMan is correct, of course the Military is in heavy contact with Google Earth and other public Satillite imaging companies. These people hide secrets that are unimaginable and you think they'll just let some satillite fly over and take a few pics? Oh please.

[edit on 1-8-2006 by T_Nexis]



posted on Aug, 3 2006 @ 08:54 AM
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I've got a bit of a problem with the rc-aircraft idea - we're talking about a base that specialises in low-observable aircraft, and consequently probably have some of the most advanced radars, infrared and acoustic sensors on the planet - an rc airplane won't get in, no matter how small (don't forget, the F22 has the same radar cross-section as an average beak-and-wings bird - about 0.1 square meters - and they need to track their planes somehow)...so it's got to be a ground approach...

Also, I think the danger of being detected is very high if we use microwave or radio uplink of the data.

Finally, nobody's really discussed the best tactical plan for the device once infiltration has occured.

Here's my plan based on a quick think and some ideas others have had on here...

I think the best bet would be to use the 'slow-moving rock' approach - a small vehicle (6"-9" inches) with a very thin layer of visual camoflague on top of a photovoltaic skin to charge the batteries. GPS and some path finding ability on-board guides it to it's destination over the course of a couple of weeks or months, moving during the day (heat from motors will be easier to see at night), and watching on several visual spectrums and audio at night (maybe even add gravitometry, magnetometry packages?). Constant FIFO recording from inputs, recording to permanent memory if the system detects an anomalous reading (i.e. any reading above baseline for a huge empty desert). Given the right engineering, one of these things could operate indefinitely out there (until the heat and dust broke it).

As regards getting the data out, EM transmission of any kind would likely be picked up immediately, and it scatters, so no security with regards to interception. What we need is a LASER.... leave the little scamp running for a couple of months, then at a predesignated time, it leaves its position, gets within eyeline of Tikaboo (or somewhere), does a data feed on a medium-power laser for a few seconds, dumping all the data it has towards a waiting reciever (person, truck, something), before overloading its circuits/melting with acid/generally writing itself off. Obviously, the logistics of this must be thought through in depth, as you'd be a sitting duck if they'd found the robot and were waiting for it to phone home).

The main discussion point here is where would be the best place for the robot to sit for those couple of months? It's unrealistic that we'd get inside the place, so it'll have to be on the test range somewhere - and let's face it, what we really want to see is black jets and saucers, right? I'm not an A51/S-4 buff like many here, so where would be the best place to set up to see stuff rolling out of hangars (the robot's a static platform, so seeing birds in flight would be nigh on impossible). Maybe we could sit at the end of a runway to watch throttle-ups?

Any further ideas?

Angel42



posted on Aug, 3 2006 @ 09:39 AM
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Ive looked at one page here about a real powerful multi round sniper buy two or three do some damage and charge in. this is military grade tech and look under government weapons programs


Umm.... the gov't already has these weapons. By the time you figure out how to use it, you'll already be in the cross hairs of some dude with a death from below tatoo on his arm that knows how to shoot it better than you do.


Im still a big fan of the mass suicide...err, i mean operation human sheild...er, i mean bumrush of the base. Find a couple thousand crazy people willing to take a bullet or two and lets roll, Ill be right behind you!



posted on Aug, 3 2006 @ 05:29 PM
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I think the best Idea yet is the 1,000 man march, I mean long as they don't run, or pose any type of abnormal or threating posture when they walk, get a few hundred people with video camera's, wireless internet by satelite or cell phone to transmit live data, if anyone did get shot, A51 would be main stream media for weeks and weeks, on the other hand, if you have 1000+ people just march one side of the base and send in several other group, with the intent to get into the base, if any were shot or killed, still mainstream media coverage for weeks, General public would just see the goverment killing people in a peaceful protest.



posted on Aug, 3 2006 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by dawgjay
I think the best Idea yet is the 1,000 man march, I mean long as they don't run, or pose any type of abnormal or threating posture when they walk, get a few hundred people with video camera's, wireless internet by satelite or cell phone to transmit live data, if anyone did get shot, A51 would be main stream media for weeks and weeks, on the other hand, if you have 1000+ people just march one side of the base and send in several other group, with the intent to get into the base, if any were shot or killed, still mainstream media coverage for weeks, General public would just see the goverment killing people in a peaceful protest.


Peaceful protest eh? So what, are you going to just march up to the perimeter and protest? Or are you going to attempt to go INTO the perimeter?

A51's security isn't the army, it's a security company. The US isn't stupid, a private security has more "privileges " than the Army. For one it will look extremely bad if a citizen was shot by US soldiers. Second A51 doesn't "exist" as they proclaim (Even though there have been lawsuits filed against A51 directly by employees), so? "What base? What protest? Nothing exists out there."

If anybody ever attempted this, please send me the live feed. I wonder how many will make it out? If any? If they can even get the uplink in time?






[edit on 3-8-2006 by T_Nexis]



posted on Aug, 5 2006 @ 07:10 AM
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What about a camoflage suit? I don't mean like an army outfit, but the kind that 'cloaks' an object. Area51 is aparently working in these things aren't they. I'd be ironic if someone infiltrated a base working on that with the very thing their working on
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Maybe someone here should get a job with the security company that does security for A51. Wonder how difficult that would be? Probably have to get a nerve-toxin implant in your skull, so if you ever stepped off the base when they didn't want, u'd just RIP immediately.



posted on Aug, 8 2006 @ 08:13 AM
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BUILD A WOODEN HORSE!!!!!!LOL



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 08:17 AM
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yeah, those trojans were on too something!



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 08:32 AM
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1st of all...
.....even if it were possible(and I don't think it is) as posted earlier R/C signal would cut off eventualy due to distance.
2nd- Also posted earlier, with a preprogrammed route(CPU chip) it MIGHT work BUT.....you would need exact coordnates to find the base itself. The guarded border is miles and miles away from any building so how would you know which way to go???

just a thought

Rocques



posted on Aug, 12 2006 @ 12:56 AM
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first post on this forum***


someone mentioned remote viewing quite a few posts ago, and I must say, that there's only one problem with that, it's a known object. An RV session where the object is known, can create flaws where the conscious mind influences what the subspace mind is viewing. Also, remote viewing rarely ends up with a solid drawing of the objects in mind, and usually they must be seen before the remote viewer realizes what they drew.


Of course, my whole arguement is easily refuted as you can simply toss area 51 into a random list of pre-determined places.



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 02:16 PM
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Could it be that "The Menwith Hill Site" is the little known link????????????



posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 12:06 AM
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wow, what an awsome plan, NOT, dude, do you know anything about r/c's, about radio transmissions, or even radar? a max range is around 500ft, if that, not many with higher range and if there is, your looking at several hundreds of dollars. area 51 has not only radar but also motion, heat, sound censors and video. so no matter what, if you were even 10 miles from the base, it would be shot down by mp's (military police for those of you who think like this guy) and i did say shot down, you think these guys are jokeing when they say "top secret"? if so man then you are a bright one. and the radar only pics up objects with a large enough surface to bounce back high frequency waves. actually, please try out your little plan and lose hundreds of dollars, please do it, that way i can laugh at you.



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