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U.S.A. is the first and only Hyperpower

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posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by 1wintermute1
Whatever !Quit listening to the news and do some homework.......our currencies value has been declining for years.....

fact of the matter....end of story....whether you like it or not..........


Duh... all forms of currencies have gone down over the years, back in the 19th century people made less then $1000 dollars a years, same in England or any other place. When I said the value went down only about 3%, I was talking about in resent years, not over the centuries.

P.S. I did my homework, and my stock value increased 278% in 4 years. WOOT


[edit on 26-3-2005 by beyondSciFi]




posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by beyondSciFi

Originally posted by 1wintermute1
Whatever !Quit listening to the news and do some homework.......our currencies value has been declining for years.....

fact of the matter....end of story....whether you like it or not..........


Duh... all forms of currencies have gone down over the years, back in the 19th century people made less then $1000 dollars a years, same in England or any other place. When I said the value went down only about 3%, I was talking about in resent years, not over the centuries.

P.S. I did my homework, and my stock value increase 278% in 4 years. WOOT

[edit on 26-3-2005 by beyondSciFi]


That is plain out incorrect!!!

Tell me why the Euro has increased in value then, if what you are saying is correct?

If you have made money on your options then I envy you......other than that though, despite what you say to the contrary, the worlds commmodities market has been sliding.

And other currencies are worth more than the dollar...FACT



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by 1wintermute1
That is plain out incorrect!!!

Tell me why the Euro has increased in value then, if what you are saying is correct?


I meant overall, besides the Euro has only been around 3 years (introduced in Jan. 2, 2002), give it some time. The value of the Euro will probably stay the around the same because it is regulated by the economies of multiple countries (the EU)


Originally posted by 1wintermute1
And other currencies are worth more than the dollar...FACT


I know, the Pound and Euro are worth more then the dollar.

P.S. Can we please stay on topic... we seem to be trailing off.


[edit on 26-3-2005 by beyondSciFi]



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by beyondSciFi

Originally posted by 1wintermute1
That is plain out incorrect!!!

Tell me why the Euro has increased in value then, if what you are saying is correct?


I meant overall, besides the Euro has only been around 3 years (introduced in Jan. 2, 2002), give it some time. The value of the Euro will probably stay the around the same because it is regulated by the economies of multiple countries (the EU)


Originally posted by 1wintermute1
And other currencies are worth more than the dollar...FACT


I know, the Pound and Euro are worth more then the dollar.



If you know the pound and Euro are worth more, then why did you say that ALL the worlds currencies were devaluating?

Convenient time to reverse what you previously said!

Now what you are saying completely contradicts what you previously said.......

Therefore I must dismiss your previous comments as the BS that they were...and at the risk of being presumptuous...everything you say from this point on.....sorry
[edited due to ineptitude]

[edit on 26-3-2005 by 1wintermute1]



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by 1wintermute1
If you know the pound and Euro are worth more, then why did you say that ALL the worlds currencies were devaluating?

Convenient time to reverse what you previously said!

Now what you are saying completely contradicts what you previously said.......

Therefore I must dismiss your previous comments as the BS that they were...and at the risk of being presumptuous...everything you say from this point on.....sorry
[edited due to ineptitude]

[edit on 26-3-2005 by 1wintermute1]


You DONT seem to understand. So I will prove it to you. In 1880s the average salary of a worker in the US was $54.50 - $71.40 a week (about $2,800 - $3,700 a year). Between 1824 - 1846 the average salary of a doctor in England was 1,500 - 2,000 pounds per year. The average salary for a person in the US now is between $35,000 - $50,000, in England its 20,000-30,000 per year. THEREFOR these currencies have DECREASE in value over time. So have all other currencies from this time.



The average salary for women was $54.50 a year and for men $71.40.




While most apothecaries and surgeons had to play dual roles to earn enough to survive, high ranking physician consultants in London (between 1824 and 1846) could earn between 1500 and 2000 pounds a year.


Sources: kclibrary.nhmccd.edu...
www-personal.umd.umich.edu...

Just because another currency, like the pound, is worth more then a dollar that does not mean it has not decreased in value over time. The Euro has only been around for about 3 years, its a NEW currency, regulated by multiple countries economies. Therefor the Euro is one of the most stable currencies out there. Before when I said all currents have decreased in value over time, I mean the currencies that have some history and data behind them.

I was perfectly clear and correct in what I stated before, it just seem you did seem to understand what I was saying. Maybe YOU should do your homework before running your mouth off.

P.S. I dont mean to be rude, but can we please stay on the topic!

[edit on 26-3-2005 by beyondSciFi]



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 12:20 AM
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you gotta take inflation into account, inflation man!!! also yes its true, the major currencies always decline over time and are taken over by other currencies sooner or later.

thanks,
drfunk



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 12:36 AM
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Superpowers – Hyperpowers have come and gone. America is in decline, it is only a matter of time.

The balance will change and Asia Pacific lead by India and China will become the ‘new’ age Hyperpowers. Yes, I agree with that statement. Let us pray that they make a more positive impact on world events and lead by example not by starting wars...



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 12:52 AM
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Yeah and I am a self-proclaimed hyperman with a magical doorway in my closet that leads to Narnia.


I am sure that Nazi leaders really considered the Third Reich to be invincible and universally superior too and look where it got them!

Well a life of luxury in South America or the firing squad at Nuremburg for the most part.



posted on Apr, 5 2005 @ 04:42 PM
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I'm a proud American and the US is very very powerful. I believe our power is often abused, and I believe that no world power will remain forever. I just hope that future US presidential administrations will see that we must work with and respect other nations or we will no longer exist in the state we are currently in.



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 09:55 AM
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hyperpower came from the frenchies back in 1999 or 2000 i believe i forgot, they call us that since we pushed them down from power status because american culture, economy, military etc. the french fear of being overwhelmed by american things. china i wouldnt dbubt they could be powerful, but they got issues preventing them from becoming one.



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 10:22 AM
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Well considering the prefix "Hyper," is greek," and "super," is Roman, you might say it is all Greek to me.

People redefine the language, but the duplicity of modern media most never does justice to the actual existing reality. The United States is weakening daily, both militarily due to depleted uranium and vaccination poisoning, but also as well by job exportation. It is being set up for a fall, so that Foreign interests may buy things at pennies on the dollar and rent to you at annual rates equaling their buyup property values. The state of the decline is evident from many statistics. Consider illegal immigration, or cheap labor importation and outsourcing. Our nation is in a hyper decline, while its biggest industries are the military and prisons. Trillions are missing just from the Pentagon budget, while corruption is rampant but in cloaked terminology. Congress won't investigate, while the gravy train or gravy drain, puts immense wealth into fewer and fewer hands. Guess who has to pay the mortgage?

If a hyperpower is something that destroys liberty while proclaiming it abroad, and a police state that is rapidly militarizing and eclipsing any attempts at restoring community policing, then yeah, we are a great hyperpower. What a great "hype," but it has nothing to do with the condition of most citizens.

Our overall national security is weakening daily, while neoconservative operators for the military-industrial banking interests project 100 years of war, something that happened already in the 15th century. At the same time, technology is advancing to make the state of most people into something resembling the 12th century on steroids. Have a nice day with your bowl of home garden pottage, hopefully it will be more nutritious than North Korean grass stew.

Yes the word "Hyperpower," is all greek to me. If you mean 300 people in the world, mostly overseas owning everything and using America as a Hessian force, then you are ever so right. I find nothing patriotic in supporting current trends towards despotism. Have a happy Diebold voting day, while your voice and vote are strangled by corporate welfare you pay to promote.

[edit on 6-4-2005 by SkipShipman]



posted on Apr, 6 2005 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by beyondSciFi
I just found it interesting that they made a new term by which to consider the U.S.A.


[edit on 25-3-2005 by beyondSciFi]


"The term ‘hyperpower’ was popularised by French foreign minister Hubert Védrine in the 1990s in an effort to explain what had replaced the dominance by superpowers and great powers of international relations. "

The term was never made for the U.S.A. to describe them.

Also a hyper power has to lead in; Economic and Military Power. Sorry to inform you but the E.U. is one for its Economy and happens to be larger then America. (12,955,370 and 12,486,624 millions of US dollars.)

Also it can't enforce its power on every other Nation, militarily either(although it does have one of the best Armed Forces) and doesn't have the Hegemony that it thinks it does over a lot of the world.

Sorry to inform you of that.


Try reading some of Samuel Phillips Huntington's works.



posted on Apr, 7 2005 @ 08:56 AM
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Yes the US is a HyperPower yayayay! ... until a MEGAPOWER from outerspace comes down and kicks her ass hahahahahahahaha!!!!



posted on Apr, 7 2005 @ 10:06 AM
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The title of this thread is quite sad and reveals the wall in which earth is going to.

What is really going on with people ? They lost their mind. They lost the real senses of life. Humanity will go nowhere like this.

Forget countries and borders. You really have to open your consciousness and understand that we are all earthlings and we are forming an unique ethny. We have to kill ego, domination and other negative feelings. We need to be united all together for a better future, a better evolution of our civilization.

When will you understand this ?



posted on Apr, 14 2005 @ 05:16 PM
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Actually when you think about it, Hyperpower, is the perfect term to describe the USA now. The USA is much more powerful militarily then any other nation, in fact, it is as strong as the next seventeen countries combined. It also has the strongest economy in the world, by a great amount. Simply put, the USA should be labeled as a hyperpower due to these factors and because there are no countries that can even rival the power of the USA now or anytime in the near future.

Thats the kinda sh*t that makes the rest of the world hate Americans


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posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by beyondSciFi
What exactly do you mean by location? After all, location has stopped being a problem in terms of military back around W.W.II with the true expansion of aircraft into war machines. With aircraft you could go bomb any place on the planet, not to mention drop troops and supplies.


Actually, location is as important today as it has been in any time in history. Take the US for example. We are located on the the otherside of the world from most of the places we have had military action.

You can not project power without having somewhere to project it from. The US has it's military might in part because we have HUNDREDS of bases scattered across the world. Taking Afghanistan for instance would have been MUCH more difficult without having had pakistan going along with us. Without bases in Japan and Sout Korea, we would not have the ability to dominate China in the Yellow sea. Without Hawaii, we would not dominate the Pacific Ocean as we do.

Your assumption that airpower can get the job done is very wrong. The US only has a small force that is able to be airdropped (101st and 82nd airborn being the backbone). These groups are used for quick reaction, but their use is usually as a 'bandaid' untill they can get heavy equipment in. You can't airdrop a M-1a1 into battle, and you can't airdrop heavy artillery either - those types of things need to be brought over by ship.

That is infact why the US Navy is probably the most powerfull of our 3 branches. Think about it - they are really their own little military. They have a dozen or so super carrier battle groups, which can project air power. They have the USMC, to project ground force, they have all their ships to project sea power, and they have the most survivable and deadly nuclear asset in the world - their SSBN subs.

Basically, the might of the US military in large part is because we can control the seas and have so many staging areas through out the world.



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by PeteTPP
Thats the kinda sh*t that makes the rest of the world hate Americans


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So they hate us because we are more powerfull then they are. Great logic their. Do they hate every individual that is bigger then they are? How about everyone that is a better athlete?

Anyone with that outlook is pathetic.



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by American Mad Man

Originally posted by PeteTPP
Thats the kinda sh*t that makes the rest of the world hate Americans


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So they hate us because we are more powerfull then they are. Great logic their. Do they hate every individual that is bigger then they are? How about everyone that is a better athlete?

Anyone with that outlook is pathetic.



No, they hate you because you call everyone else Inferior. I believe that other human dont like being told: "We're a way better country then you", thus they think your as*h*les


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posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 01:09 PM
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It is certain that the US can't remain the only superpower forever. How long will it last? 20 years? 50 years? I dunno.
I think that the major question is whether the US will let another country become the dominant superpower in the years to come, or will they fight to remain on top?
As for the EU, yeh we are statistically wealthier in total than the yanks, but we aren't a country, and probably never will be.



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 04:37 PM
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What about factoring in human moral? Friendly fires? Technological failure? In war these things hold alot of pull. Most of all human moral, if the soldiers arnt willing to fight there's no real power.

Other than that, how exactly do you know that we can beat any nation on earth? The only true way to tell whether the US could beat any nation on eath would be to pit the US against every nation (or every super power, which ever category you wish) and watch the out come of each (of course letting the US build back up to its former standing after each). Short of that there's no way to tell who could beat who in a war scenerio.

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