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reply posted on 28-4-2005 @ 05:57 PM by new_falcon_XXI
Originally posted by LA_Maximus
The EU needs to make a choice....China or America.


I really would like to say something about everything else you said, but really have to go to bed now. Only this: I don't think there's much of a choice for all of us. China is the third-biggest nuclear power already since a very long time. The technology may be old and Russian, but that doesn't make it any less dangerous. In my view, there is (politically) only one solution: not to p. them off and try to be most diplomatic. To try to fight them would be suicide, new wepons or not. We have to avoid a new cold war and, of course, a hot war with the Chinese. So we (of course not we but our representatives) have to think real hard this time - unlike they do normally, to avoid a planetary crisis of unseen dimensions. Best would be America too would declare China as an untouchable political entity (of whatever kind) and we both should never try to push them in any direction we want, but try to draw them back if they are going too far - carefully. There are progressive people in China too, much more spiritual as in the West anyway, and if the time is right, they will overcome the today's system there. No need to intervene, you only reach the opposite. It's a fault of Western thinking: we want everything now. But history takes time. And to be honest with you: I hate my people doing this - trying to sell weapons to the Chinese, mostly because of the disobedience of human rights over there and because of the Chinese occupation of Tibet. But as I said some pages before, it's all about business, and our politicians are puppets of the industry like anywhere else. So normal people have to think for themselves. We as humans - country lovers or not - should always consider human life as the most valuable thing in the world, therefore we should act careful not to hurt or even kill other people. If this is recognized one day by every country and every belief in the world, this planet would be a better place. In every day life, we can do something, not change world politics maybe, but try to live more peacefully and make our own decisions. After all, this is the Christian way and normally the way of any other religion, even Islam, though you can't see it clearly today. But - other topic and I really have to go now.


reply posted on 28-4-2005 @ 09:52 PM by Ryanp5555
Originally posted by new_falcon_XXI
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
Perfection is something that we will not achieved through our own(mans) actions.


Very true, speaking of all today's people. But still I think your founding fathers had something greater in mind, some kind of society not even close to what you can see all over the world in present times. That's the dream I'm talking about. The promise (in this case) is not: you give it, you fullfill it, but the dream behind, which every human being craving for freedom dreamt of. It was only written by Americans, nobody says you have to bring it. The disappointment is, not even in America most of the people can live this dream but think they do, because "they" say so. (feel free to change "they" with government, media, companies, school or whatever comes to your mind)


I am not going to argue that. I believe that this countries fore fathers would be a little sickened with the greed and such that has taken place here. I am too. But, I don't think that the world should hate us because of this. Everyone gets caught up in something, such is the err of man.

To the rhetorical question asker, find me one person who would rather live in such oppression and poverty, and someone who knows what they are talking about not for the basis of debate or religious belief someone who has experienced both, than in the United States and I will say I was wrong. Until you do so, don't bother asking such a dumb question, because as you do know that question was pretty f'n dumb.

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