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posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 06:34 PM
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It's very interesting to note, that The 13 Katun of The Mayan Religion are none other than the 13 aspects of The Tree of Life:



Katun A Mayan term which refers to epochs or periods of time, and also to regions or Heavens. The Thirteen Katuns are..

"..thirteen periods of time for each human race. Obviously, the prophecies for each one of the past Katuns of our Aryan Root Race were exactly fulfilled. Presently, we are approaching the Thirteenth Katun. The Mayas say that between the years 2040 and 2043, the Thirteenth Katun will enter into activity. The great catastrophe that will destroy this present humanity, which lives on the five continents of the world, will occur during the Thirteenth Katun...

"Ain, Ain Soph, Ain Soph Aur.

"Kether, Chokmah, Binah, Chesed, Geburah, Tiphereth, Netzach, Hod, Yesod, Malkuth.

"These are the thirteen Aeons or supra-sensible atomic Regions, which are mutually penetrating and co-penetrating without confusion. The Unmanifested Absolute is beyond these thirteen Aeons." - from The Pistis Sophia Unveiled







Gnostic Kabbalah

...Kabbalah is the Science of Numbers... something related to the universe; we learn this through Initiation.

In Atlantis there was a society of Great Initiates called the Akaldan Society. These were the same as the Mayans.

These Mayan-Atlanteans studied Kabbalah. In Yucatan we find a book of Numbers called the Chilam Balam of Chumayel (apologies for the spelling)... Chilam balam means "Jaguar-Shaman," or Master.

Many prophecies are made in mathematics.

The 13 Katuns of the Mayans are related with the 13 Sephiroth (including the 3 unknown or hidden ones: Ain, Ain Soph, Ain Soph Aur). These are 13 Heavens related to the science of numbers.

Only by knowing Kabbalah can we understand the Mayan mysteries.

The pyramids in Yucatan, Honduras, Guatemala, Egypt were made by the Atlanteans. At that time the Akaldan society were transferring this knowledge to all the different societies. Chaldea received all this knowledge. The prophet Abraham received all this knowledge. Abraham was from the city of Aur/Or which means, "Light"). He was skilled in Kabbalah, astrology and all the ancient sciences. Egypt also inherited this Kabbalistic knowledge. Moses was a priest of the Cult to Osiris and Isis; he received all of his knowledge from the Egyptians. This knowledge was to be given to the Arian race, and a special people were prepared to spread this knowledge.







Klipoth 2: Mercury

...The Nahuas and Mayans speak of 13 Katuns, or periods of time, within which every humanity has to be developed.

We are now in the 12th Katun. In 2040 we enter the 13th Katun, the final step, the end of our civilization, which will last maybe 2000 years. Even the beginning of this Katun means destruction - and so entry into this period implies a complete change in nature due to a great sacrifice that will be performed by the fire.

The Hebrew Sephiroth are the 10 manifested emanations of that Seity that is unknown. Above the 10 Sephiroth we find 3 regions - these are related to what we call the Absolute. These 3 great regions are:

Ain: Nothingness
Ain Soph: Limitless
Ain Soph Aur: Limitless Light
Below Ain Soph Aur we find the Ten Sephiroth which form what we call the universe, in different parts, or the Heavens of Christianity.

The Ten Sephiroth are ten different parallel dimensions.

The Earth is placed in the physical dimension or plane.

The Earth and all life, the four kingdoms of humans, animals, plants and minerals are called the Kingdom (Malkuth)....












posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 07:40 PM
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"I'm going to make a prediction from having seen about ten of these "great vibrational events that will change the Earth" since 1965 (including the planetary lineup and Y2K and the Nostradamus prophecies of 1999):

The calendar is just a calendar. What will happen in 2012 is that we will flip our calendars and have to start writing 2013. People will still be the same, technology will still develop at the same pace (whatever that would be at that time) and people will start suddenly showing up with predictions about the Next Great Revolution (I think that one's 2032 so you have more time to prepare.) Oh... and there'll be the Great Asteroid Panic of 2014.

Don't look for some sort of Cosmic Uplift to bring changes in the world. Start looking at legislation and voting, instead"


WHAT....WHAT IS THIS?????

take responsibility??? educate yourselves???? what hath mine virgin eyes seen.....the truth hurts mine eyes so much they burn. i must go read fanciful propaganda and restore my sight....



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by Byrd
The calendar is just a calendar. What will happen in 2012 is that we will flip our calendars and have to start writing 2013. People will still be the same, technology will still develop at the same pace (whatever that would be at that time) and people will start suddenly showing up with predictions about the Next Great Revolution (I think that one's 2032 so you have more time to prepare.) Don't look for some sort of Cosmic Uplift to bring changes in the world. Start looking at legislation and voting, instead.


An excellent point, sometimes the voter can overrule the leader and bring about real change. About the calendar flip, I hope that instead of flipping it over to 2013 AD, 13.0.0.0.0. Baktun flips over to 1.0.0.0.0. Baktun cuz a united world government has adopted a new 13 month calendar to celebrate our coming together. That does seem like too many 13s though, so I sure hope it's not unlucky.



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by Byrd
The calendar is just a calendar. What will happen in 2012 is that we will flip our calendars and have to start writing 2013.


You missed an obvious one. Something bad will happen very near the beginning of the year (just like something bad happens virtually every day if you look in the right place) and people who either don't have our have already accomplished anything important in their schedule will start analyzing the date of the even to find unlucky numbers. For that one year, everyone can play- not just people who are good at math.

I want to be with a believer during the last 10 seconds of December 20th 2012. I got such a kick out of being in a room full of believers on New Years Eve 1999. (I wish I'd known somebody who fell for the "after-shock glitch" on New Years Even 2000- remember those people who seemed to think that computers were just going to magically mess up at the turn of the century, which was one year later because there was no year zero?)

Then let's not forget the hale bop comet passing a few years back (i think 96 or 97?) The stir around that was good for a laugh- although it would have been nice if the CIA hadn't made all those mind control test subjects commit mass suicide.



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 05:48 AM
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The Global Elite are planning on hoaxing an alien attack on the Earth in 2012, so that will be the year when the masses discover that we are not alone in the Universe and of course our civilisation will advance.

"the entity that exists that has kept UFOs secret - and is planning a deception and tragedy that will dwarf the events of 9/11"

"would go from Cold War, to Rogue Nations, to Global Terrorism (the stage we find ourselves at today), to the ultimate trump card: A hoaxed threat from space."

"After a period of terrorism - a period during which the detonation of nuclear devices will be threatened and possibly actuated, thus justifying expanding the weaponization of space - an effort will ramp up to present the public with information about a threat from outer space. Not just asteroids hitting the Earth, but other threats. An extraterrestrial threat. "

- Dr. Steven Greer Head Of The Disclosure Project



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 08:04 AM
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If there is indeed a transition in 2012, from one cycle to another; the change will probably be subtle, and the vulgar materialists and those not sensitive to more subtle vibrations; will not notice anything out of the ordinary.


Though as stated in my last post, look for something not so subtle to occur between 2040-2043, according to The Mayan Katun.....



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by Tamahu
If there is indeed a transition in 2012, from one cycle to another; the change will probably be subtle, and the vulgar materialists and those not sensitive to more subtle vibrations; will not notice anything out of the ordinary.


Though as stated in my last post, look for something not so subtle to occur between 2040-2043, according to The Mayan Katun.....


Tamahu, I agree with you. Those that are tuned in will notice the shift and an acceleration in the development of their consciousness. However those that choose to keep their true nature dormant will only see the physical manifestation of the shift and remain oblivious to the interaction of higher forces.

The quickening of selected conciousnesses will be gathering wisdom and higher intellect during the end of the baktun cycle in 2012 and the beginning of the katun cycle in 2040/43.

My personal opinion for 2040/43 will be a planetary alignment of our 9 planet combined with the intrusion of a comet called 'the destroyer' into our solar system. The destroyer has had catastrophic impact on the history of our planet and is allegedly responsible for the great flood of ancient myth as well as the plagues of Egypt and the parting of the red sea.

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posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by aelphaeis_mangarae
The Global Elite are planning on hoaxing an alien attack on the Earth in 2012, so that will be the year when the masses discover that we are not alone in the Universe and of course our civilisation will advance.

"the entity that exists that has kept UFOs secret - and is planning a deception and tragedy that will dwarf the events of 9/11"

"would go from Cold War, to Rogue Nations, to Global Terrorism (the stage we find ourselves at today), to the ultimate trump card: A hoaxed threat from space."

"After a period of terrorism - a period during which the detonation of nuclear devices will be threatened and possibly actuated, thus justifying expanding the weaponization of space - an effort will ramp up to present the public with information about a threat from outer space. Not just asteroids hitting the Earth, but other threats. An extraterrestrial threat. "

- Dr. Steven Greer Head Of The Disclosure Project


I know this hoax will be devastating to those that fully entrust their lives in the hands of our governments. However, it will be liberating to those that define their own existence.



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 11:51 PM
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Spirituality mixed with science...

that actually makes sense, I've been reading a lot in the books lately about things in the bible being proven through science. Eventually the two will go hand in hand, scientists will be preaching their religion using scientificly provable things, and religions that have absolutely nothing provable through science will die off.



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 08:24 AM
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"also..dna has been traced back in time and we found that we all come from 3 females in africa.. "


extrapolate please!



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 11:46 AM
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I agree with Tamahu; those that are in tune will only notice the change in their own consiousness in the year 2012. Those who think that it is the "end of the world" do not understand the Mayan calender. And yes it will take a long time for MOST of humanity to rise their level of consiousness, it will be fused with a new paradime (spelling is horrible) of technology.



posted on Mar, 28 2005 @ 11:35 PM
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Thanks for the detailed info. I have been following the mayan callendar predictions for quite some time. I have been suggesting a transition rather than a complete end ever since I first read about it.

About the population cut, I have often said this. Cutting the population would solve many of the problems in this destructive little make-believe world that humans have created.

Personally, I hope a large cut in population does occur, even if it means that I am one of the ones that are cut. For the well-being of the world, it needs to happen.



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 02:26 AM
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Earlier tonight I was reading "Mayan Calendar: A transformation of Consciousness" and I came across something worth adding to this thread. It seems that after 2012 creation will be complete for this planet. What that means is we will no longer be bound by the destiny plan decreed by higher forces. Instead we will be free to decide our own fate.....

However, there is a flip side to this coin. Both the Mayans and the Hopi predict that the world will be united under one flag at the end of creation. This means that either we will have a leadership of wise men/women and prophets or we will have a totalitarian state much like Orwell's 1984. Ultimately, the difference comes down how much we are willing to work for our freedom.

I cannot stress enough how important it is to question the answers you are given by the authorities. Understand that the media is conditioned to present to you what those in power want you become. Fearful, apathetic, lazy, and hopeless is the ideal citizen in the eyes of the tyrant.



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 07:39 AM
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I have now read three different ancient descriptions of what is to immediately follow the 'change'. The Aquarian version describes it as a cleansing which will virtually wipe the slate clean, so that the Golden Age can have a pure, fresh start.
The Bible interpretoers also say that very few will be saved.
The Hindu scriptures say the same about the end of the Kali Yugq, which is very near. They say life on earth will be set right back to plankton/amoeba levels. But on the positive side, things are going to get cleaned up.



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 07:56 AM
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North American Indian Prophecies
Talk Given by Lee Brown
1986 Continental Indigenous Council
Tanana Valley Fairgrounds
Fairbanks, Alaska
There was the cycle of the mineral, the rock. There was the cycle of the plant. And now we are in the cycle of the animals coming to the end of that and beginning the cycle of the human being.
When we get into the cycle of the human being, the highest and greatest powers that we have will be released to us.
They will be released from that light or soul that we carry to the mind. But right now we're coming to the end of the animal cycle and we have investigated ourselves and learned what it is to be like an animal on this earth.
At the beginning of this cycle of time, long ago, the Great Spirit came down and He made an appearance and He gathered the peoples of this earth together they say on an island which is now beneath the water and He said to the human beings, "I'm going to send you to four directions and over time I'm going to change you to four colors, but I'm going to give you some teachings and you will call these the Original Teachings and when you come back together with each other you will share these so that you can live and have peace on earth, and a great civilization will come about."
And he said, "During the cycle of time I'm going to give each of you two stone tablets. When I give you those stone tablets, don't cast those upon the ground. If any of the brothers and sisters of the four directions and the four colors cast their tablets on the ground, not only, will human beings have a hard time, but almost the earth itself will die."
And so he gave each of us a responsibility and we call that the Guardianship.
To the Indian people, the red people, he gave the Guardianship of the earth. We were to learn during this cycle of time the teachings of the earth, the plants that grow from the earth, the foods that you can eat, and the herbs that are healing so that when we came back together with the other brothers and sisters we could share this knowledge with them. Something good was to happen on the earth.
To the South, he gave the yellow race of people the Guardianship of the wind. They were to learn about the sky and breathing and how to take that within ourselves for spiritual advancement. They were to share that with is at this time.
To the West He gave the black race of people the Guardianship of the water. They were to learn the teachings of the water which is the chief of the elements, being the most humble and the most powerful.
To the North He gave the white race of people the Guardianship of the fire. If you look at the center of many of the things they do you will find the fire. They say a light bulb is the white man's fire. If you look at the center of a car you will find a spark. If you look at the center of the airplane and the train you will find the fire. The fire consumes, and also moves. This is why it was the white brothers and sisters who began to move upon the face of the earth and reunite us as a human family.
And so a long time passed, and the Great Spirit gave each of the four races two stone tablets. Ours are kept at the Hopi Reservation in Arizona at Four Corners Area on 3rd Mesa.
I talked to people from the black race and their stone tablets are at the foot of Mount Kenya. They are kept by the Kukuyu Tribe.
I once had the honor of presenting a sacred pipe at the Kukuyu Tribe carved from the red pipe stone of Mount Kenya. I was at an Indian spiritual gathering about 15 years ago. A medicine man from South Dakota put a beaded medicine wheel in the middle of the gathering. It had the four colors from the four directions; He asked the people, "Where is this from?" They said, "Probably Montana, or South Dakota, maybe Seskatchewan." He said, "This is from Kenya." It was beaded just like ours, with the same color.
The stone tablets of the yellow race of people are kept by the Tibetans, in Tibet. If you went straight through the Hopi Reservation to the other side of the world, you would come out in Tibet. The Tibetan word for "sun" is the Hopi word for "moon" and the Hopi word for "sun" is the Tibetan word for "moon".
The guardians of the traditions of the people of Europe are the Swiss. In Switzerland, they still have a day when each family brings out its mask. They still know the colors of the families, they still know the symbols, some of them. I went to school with some people from Switzerland at the University of Washington and they shared this with me.
Each of these four peoples happen to be people that live in the mountains.
In 1976 America had its bicentennial celebrating 200 years of freedom. Some of the Native people thought this was significant and they carried a sacred pipe bundle from the West Coast to the East Coast of this land.
They said that the roads of this land should either go North-South or East-West. If they went North-South we would come together as brothers and sisters, but if they went East-West there would be destruction and almost the earth itself would have a hard time. So you all know the roads went East-West.
They said then things would be lost from the East to the West and from the South to the North and that they would come back again from the West to the East and from the North to the South.
So nine years ago in 1976 from the West to East Coast of this land, from San Francisco to Washington, D.C. people carried a sacred pipe bundle by hand, on foot. My aunt had dreamt 15 years ago that people that didn't like them would throw rocks and bottles at that pipe bundle as they carried it across the land. And sure enough that came about. But, as was in my aunt's dream, the rocks only came so close and then they dropped, and nothing touched it.
They said a spiritual fire would be lit in the North and would come down the Northwest Coast of this land. When it gets to the Puget Sound, it would go inland. I think this, nine years later, is the gathering in the North, myself. That's why I came here. This is it. We have the capacity to start the spiritual fire now, here. The old people long ago saw it and foretold it and I'm going to come to that.
So we went through this cycle of time and each of the four races went to their directions and they learned their teachings.
We were given a sacred handshake to show when we came back together as brothers and sisters that we still remembered the teachings. It was indicated on the stone tablets that the Hopis had that the first brothers and sisters that would come back to them would come as turtles across the land. They would be human beings, but they would come as turtles.
So when the time came close the Hopis were at a special village to welcome the turtles that would come across the land and they got up in the morning and looked out at the sunrise. They looked out across the desert and they saw the Spanish Conquistadores coming, covered in armour, like turtles across the land. So this was them. So they went out to the Spanish man and they extended their hand hoping for the handshake but into the hand the Spanish man dropped a trinket.
And so word spread throughout North America that there was going to be a hard time, that maybe some of the brothers and sisters had forgotten the sacredness of all things and all the human beings were going to suffer for this on the earth.
So tribes began to send people to the mounds to have missions to try to figure out how they could survive. At that time there were 100,000 cities in the Mississippi Valley alone, called the mound civilization: cities built on great mounds. Those mounds are still there. If you ever go out to Ohio or the Mississippi Valley, they're tourist attractions now. There was 100,000 cities of Native people and they were wondering how they could survive.
They began to try to learn to live off the land because they knew a hard time was going to come. They began to send people to have visions to see how we could survive this time.
People came on the east coast and they went across this land to the east and they were told in the prophecies that we should try to remind all the people that would come here of the sacredness of all things. If we could do that, then there would be peace on earth. But if we did not do that, when the roads went clear from east to west, and when the other races and colors of the Earth had walked clear across this land, if by that time we had not come together as a human family, the Great Spirit would grab the earth with his hand and shake it.
And so if you read the treaty negotiations from Red Jacket of the Six Nations on the east coast of this land clear to Chief Joseph and Chief Seattle on the west coast of this land, they all said the same thing. Chief Joseph said, "I accord you the right, and I hope you accord me the right, to live in this land." Always we were trying to live together. But instead of living together, you all know there was separation, there was segregation. They separated the races: they separated the Indians, and they separated the blacks.
So when they got to the west coast of this land the elders that were made aware of these prophecies said they would then begin to build a black ribbon. And on this black ribbon there would move a bug. And when you begin to see this bug moving on the land, that was the sign for the First Shaking of the Earth.
The First Shaking of the Earth would be so violent that this bug would be shaken off the earth into the air and it would begin to move and fly in the air. And by the end of this shaking this bug will be in the air around the world. Behind it would be a trail of dirt and eventually the whole sky of the entire earth would become dirty from these trails of dirt, and this would cause many diseases that would get more and more complicated. So the bug moving on the land, of course it's easy to see now.
In 1908 the Model-T Ford was mass produced for the first time. So the elders knew the First Shaking of the Earth was about to come about - that's the First World War. In the First World War the airplane came into wide usage for the first time. That was that bug moving into the sky. And so they knew something very important would happen.
There would be an attempt to make peace on earth on the west coast of this land and so the elders began to watch for this. They began to hear that there was going to be a League of Nations in San Francisco so the elders gathered in Arizona around 1920 or so and they wrote a letter to Woodrow Wilson. They asked if the Indian people could be included in the League of Nations.
At that time the United States Supreme Court had held that a reservation is a separate and semi-sovereign nation, not a part of the United States but protected by it. This became a concern because people didn't want the reservations to become more and more separate. They didn't want them to be considered nations. So they did not write back and the Native people were left out of the League of Nations, so that circle was incomplete.
In the League of Nations circle there was a southern door, the yellow people; there was a western door, the black people; there was a northern door, the white people; but the eastern door was not attended. The elders knew that peace would not come on the earth until the circle of humanity is complete, until all the four colors sat in the circle and shared their teachings, then peace would come on earth.
So they knew things would happen. Things would speed up a little bit. There would be a cobweb built around the earth, and people would talk across this cobweb. When this talking cobweb, the telephone, was built around the earth, a sign of life would appear in the east, but it would tilt and bring death. It would come with the sun.
But the sun itself would rise one day not in the east but in the west. So the elders said when you see the sun rising in the east and you see the sign of life reversed and tilted in the east, you know that the Great Death is to come upon the earth, and now the Great Spirit will grab the earth again in His hand and shake it and this shaking will be worse than the first.
So the sign of life reversed and tilted, we call that the Swastika, and the rising sun in the east was the rising sun of Japan. These two symbols are carved in stone in Arizona. When the elders saw these two flags, these were the signs that the earth was to be shaken again.
The worse misuse of the Guardianship of the fire is called the "gourd of ashes". They said the gourd of ashes will fall from the air. It will make the people like blades of grass in the prairie fire and things will not grow for many seasons. I saw on television not too long ago that they were talking about the atomic bomb, the gourd of ashes. They said it was the best-kept secret in the history of the United States. The elders wanted to speak about it in 1920.
They would have spoken of it and foretold it's coming if they could have entered into the League of Nations.
The elders tried to contact President Roosevelt and ask him not to use the gourd of ashes because it would have a great effect on the earth and eventually cause even greater destruction and a the Third Shaking of the Earth, the Third World War. I'll get to that in a few minutes.
So they knew after the Second Shaking of the Earth when they saw the gourd of ashes fall from the sky then there would be an attempt to make peace on the other side of this land. And because the peace attempt on the west coast had failed, they would build a special house on the east coast of this Turtle Island, and all the nations and peoples of the earth would come to this house and it would be called the House of Mica and it would shine like the mica on the desert shines.
So the elders began to see they were building the United Nations made out of glass that reflects like the mica on the desert so they knew this was the House of Mica and all the peoples of the earth should go to it. So they met and talked about this.
They said that in the 1920's they had written and they had not been responded to, so they said this time we better go to the front door of the House of Mica because things might get a lot worse.
So elders representing a number of tribes I believe drove to New York City. When the United Nations opened they went to the front door of the House of Mica and they said these words:
"We represent the indigenous people of North America and we wish to address the nations of the Earth. We're going to give you four days to consider whether or not we will be allowed to speak."
They retreated to one of the Six Nations Reserves in New York State. The Six Nations Reserves are keepers of the Great Law of Peace of the prophet that appeared here in North America, Dagonnorida. And this Law of Peace is still recited, it takes four days between sunrise and noon. Each year an Indian, by memory, must recite it about this time of year.
Four days later they came back and I believe the nations of the earth heard that the Indians had come to the door. And they voted to let the Indians in. They wanted to hear what they had to say. But the United States is one of five nations of the United Nations with a veto power and still they were concerned because this time the Native sovereignty was even stronger. And I believe they vetoed the entrance of the Native people.
So then they knew other things would happen on the Earth, and the United Nations would not bring peace on earth but there would be continuing and deepening confusion. And that the little wars would get worse. So they retreated to the Six Nations Reserve and they talked about this and they said the time is really getting close now, 1949.
They said, "We're going to divide the United States into four sections and each year we're going to have a gathering. We're going to call these the 'White of Peace Gatherings'." They began to have these around 1950. And they authorized certain men to speak in English for the first time about these prophecies.
One that I used to listen to many times, over and over, was Thomas Benyaka. He is a Hopi man. I believe he is still living. He was authorized to speak in English about what was on the stone tablets and he has dedicated his lifetime to doing this. And they began to tell us at these gatherings, they said "In your lifetime you're going to see things happen."
It was strange when they said it in the 1950's and 1960's but now it seems very clear. But then it was unusual. They said, "You're going to see a time in your life when men are going to become women. The Great Spirit is going to make a man on the earth. He made him a man but this man is going to say, "I know more than the Great Spirit. I'm going to change myself to be a woman:" And they will even nurse children. The Great Spirit is going to make the woman on the earth. She's going to say, "I know more than the Great Spirit. I want to be a man. And she will be physically a man."
They said "You're going to see a time in your lifetime when the human beings are going to find the blueprint that makes us." They call that now, DNA, deoxyribonucleic acid. They said, "They re going to cut this blueprint." They call that now, genetic splicing.
And they said, "They're going to make new animals upon the earth, and they're going to think these are going to help us. And it's going to seem like they do help us. But maybe the grandchildren and greatgrandchildren are going to suffer."
They are making new animals. The elders talked about this. They said, "You will see new animals, and even the old animals will come back, animals that people thought had disappeared. They will find them here and there. They'll begin to reappear."
They said (and I know many of you are from tribes that also have this prophecy, "You're going to see a time when the eagle will fly its highest in the night and it will land upon the moon." Some tribes say the eagle will circle the moon. Some tribes say the eagle will fly it's highest in the night. "And at that time," they say, "Many of the Native people will be sleeping," which symbolically means they have lost their teachings. There are some tribes that say it will be as if they are frozen: they've been through the long winter.
But they say, "When the eagle flies it's highest in the night, that will be the first light of a new day. That will be the first thawing of spring." Of course, at the first light of a new day, if you've stayed up all night, you notice it's really dark. And the first light, you want to see it, but you can't. It sneaks up on you. You want to see it change but it's dark and then pretty soon it's getting light before you know it.
We're at that time now. The Eagle has landed on the moon, 1969. When that spaceship landed they sent back the message, "The Eagle has landed." Traditionally, Native people from clear up in the Inuit region, they have shared with us this prophecy, clear down to the Quechuas in South America. They shared with us that they have this prophecy. When they heard those first words, "The Eagle has landed," they knew that was the start of a new time and a new power for Native people. There was absolutely nothing strong before us now. We may do anything we wish.
In 1776 when the United States Government printed the dollar, in one claw [of the eagle], if you've ever noticed, there is an olive branch in this claw. They said that represented peace. The Indian elders shared with me in South Dakota that to them that represents the enslavement of black people.
In the prophecies of the Six Nations people they say there will be two great uprisings by black people to free themselves. We've seen one about 1964. There will be a second, more violent one to come. I'll get back to what that means in a minute. In the other claw is 13 arrows. The founding fathers of the United States said that represents the 13 States. But the elders say that represents the enslavement of the Native people.
When the Eagle landed on the moon, they decided to print a special silver dollar to commemorate that. I don't know how many of you noticed it. The original design showed the spaceship landing on the moon but at the last minute it was changed to an actual eagle. And in the eagle's claws is the olive branch, but the arrows are gone. The elders said, "That's our prophecy, we have been released."
There was one more uprising coming for the black race of people and then they will be released and this is also going to have an effect on Native people, a good effect. There's a whole new set of prophecies from the Iroquois people about that and I won't have time to go into that this morning.
But we're in that time now. We're between the first light of a new day and the sunrise. The sunrise is about to come and when it comes up everyone is going to see it. But you know how it is in the village there's a few people that get up early, and there are some that sleep until noon. I'm probably one of those that sleeps until noon. They said when that Eagle lands on the moon, the powers will begin to come back to us.
Within seven days of the time the Eagle landed on the moon, the Freedom of Indian Religion Act was introduced into the United States Congress. The legislation was introduced in 1969, less than seven days after the Eagle landed on the moon. Eventually it was passed in November of 1978, signed by President Carter. These are the physical manifestations of the spiritual prophecies that we have.
So he said at this time you're going to see that things will speed up, that people on the earth will move faster and faster. Grandchildren will not have time for grandparents. Parents will not have time for children. It will seem like time is going faster and faster. The elders advised us that as things speed up, you yourself should slow down. The faster things go, the slower you go. Because there's going to come a time when the earth is going to be shaken a third time.
The Great Spirit has been shaking the earth two times: the First and Second World Wars to remind us that we are a human family, to remind us that we should have greeted each other as brothers and sisters. We had a chance after each shaking to come together in a circle that would have brought peace on earth, but we missed that.
Tonight they were talking on the news about the sign for the Third Shaking of the Earth. I heard it while sitting in the airport after I missed my plane. They said they're going to build what the elders called the "house in the sky".
In the 1950's they talked about this: they will build a house and throw it in the sky. When you see people living in the sky on a permanent basis, you will know the Great Spirit is about to grab the earth, this time not with one hand, but with both hands.
Many of you of Native background may have heard "the spirits will warn you twice, but the third time you stand alone." We've had two warnings, the first two World Wars, but now we stand alone in the third one. As it says in the Baha'i Writings, there will be no-one protected. When this house is in the sky, the Great Spirit is going to shake the Earth a third time and whoever dropped that gourd of ashes, upon them it is going to drop.
They say at that time there will be villages in this land so great that when you stand in the villages you will not be able to see out, and in the prophecies these are called "villages of stone", or "prairies of stone". And they said the stone will grow up from the ground and you will not be able to see beyond the village. At the center of each and every one of these villages will be Native people, and they will walk as "hollow" shells upon a "prairie of stone". They said "hollow shells" which means they will have lost any of their traditional understandings; they will be empty within.
They said after the Eagle lands on the moon some of these people will begin to leave these "prairies of stone" and come home and take up some of the old ways and begin to make themselves reborn, because it's a new day. But many will not. And they said there's going to come a time when in the morning the sun is going to rise and this village of stone will be there, and in the evening there would just be steam coming from the ground. They will be as steam. And in the center of many of those villages of stone when they turn to steam, the Native people will turn to steam also because they never woke up and left the village.

And this used to bother me when I was a young man. I used to ask the elders, "Isn't there anything we can do?" And they said, well, it's just that way that if a person does not have the spiritual eyes to see, it's very hard to show them. Or if they don't have the ears to hear, it's very hard to speak with them. We wish that we could go get them all but we can't. It's just that some are not going to wake up. But some will wake up.

And so they say there's going to be the Third Shaking of the Earth. It's not going to be a good thing to see but we will survive it. We will survive it. And when we survive it, then there's going to be another attempt to make a circle of the human beings on the earth.
And this time the Native people will not have to petition to join but will be invited to enter the circle because they say the attitude towards us will have changed by then, and people will let us into the circle and all the four colors of the four directions will share their wisdom, and there will be a peace on earth. This is coming close.
A lot of times when I share this message of the prophecies, people say, "Can't we change it? Could we stop it?"
The answer is yes.
The prophecies are always "either/or". We could have come together way back there in 1565, and we could have had a great civilization, but we didn't. Always along the path of these prophecies, we could have come together. We still could. If we could stop the racial and religious disharmony, we would not have to go through this third shaking.
The elders say the chance of that is pretty slim. It seems to me like it's pretty slim, too. But they say what we can do is we can "cushion" it. The word we use is "cushion". We can cushion it so it won't be quite as bad. How do we do this? We do this by sharing the teaching that will reunite us.
The Hopis in their prophecies say there will be a religion that comes here. Maybe it will be true and bring unity, or maybe it will not be true and not bring unity. If it does not bring unity, a second religion will come, and the people of this religion are known in the Hopi language as the Bahani, the people of Baha. Ni means "people of".
When I heard about these [prophecies], none of them made any sense. Now most of it has come to pass. Last I heard on the news, they said the "house in the sky" will be put up in 1996. It was going to be put up sooner, but it's been postponed for four years. Maybe it will be postponed again. But in not too long it's going to go up. The earth as we know it is going to change.
Each of us carry, I believe, a sacred drop of light.
But now we're going into the human world. The mind is going to be opened up to the radiance of our own soul and the cycle of the human beings is going to come back, and something so good is going to happen on the earth that it cannot even be described.
The elders say it in different ways. They say, there will be grass at that time when they make that circle and bring the peace on earth. There will be blades of grass that have not quite come through the earth. Even they will try to push themselves up to be part of that day when the sun rises.
You know, one time the scientist came to the Hopis and they said, "We want to take a piece of the stone tablets." They said "We want to take the stone tablets to a scientific laboratory to determine how old they are." The Hopis said, "We know how old they are". Well, the scientists said, "We want to confirm it." Well, the Hopis let them take a little piece, and they did that by the carbon dating method
Editor's Note: This puzzles me, as stone cannot be carbon dated. Carbon 14 is taken in by organic life until the moment of death. Then the Carbon 14 is slowly released by that organic material and the rate of release can be calculated. Half-life computations tell the age of the tested material. Stone is not organic.

They found these tablets were at least 10,000 years old, maybe 50,000. So when I say, "Thousands of years ago, there were Native people that spoke of these things," that's exactly what I mean. They told their children and thousands of years ago, their children grew up and told their children, and then their children grew up and told their children. And they spoke about the people that will live in this time.
And now it is us. We are the ones they spoke of long ago. They say to be alive, to come into creation and to live upon the earth at this time is a great honor.
In the cycle of time, from the beginning to the end, this time we are in now will change the purification of all things. They say this is the hardest time to live, but it is also the greatest honor to be alive to live and see this.
In the state of Washington in 1855 they signed treaties and made 22 Indian reservations. They wanted to do it before there were problems. They thought they were advanced at the time, they had learned from what had happened elsewhere. They made 22 Indian reservations and the elders spoke in 1855 and they said, "We're going to become weaker, and you are going to become stronger, and if you wish to break these treaties, you may do so." They said, "But there's going to come a time when the earth itself will rise up and purify itself and this will be announced.
It will be announced by the speaking of more than 16 Great Ones on the West Coast of this land. And when the 16 Great Ones speak, the purification will have begun. There was a new [?] five years ago when Mt. Saint Helens, one of the 16 great volcanoes on the West Coast of this land, "spoke".
The Seattle Times did a special interest story. They went over to Watson Totus and Woodrow Bill. It was Woodrow Bill's son that made this hoop that I brought here today, my good brother Randolf Bill. They asked Watson Totus and Woodrow Bill as spiritual people of the Yakuma nation, "What does this mean?" What they said was so profound that they didn't put it on page 16, they put it on the front page of the Seattle Times.
They said, "This means that the races and nations of the earth should slow down and come together and talk to each other." That's exactly what it meant. And we had four years and four days to do that.
Four years and four days later, Mt. Saint Helens erupted the second time. That was last spring, just about this time. That was our grace period. We could have still done something really good. But now things are going to speed up. Now things are going to really happen fast. Time is going to go so fast.
The more we share the Message, the more we will cushion the Third Shaking of the Earth, and the easier it will be on ourselves and others.
We are now within the purification of all things. Non-Natives call this the "Apocalypse". The Native elders call this the "Purification".
But don't despair. It sounds terrible, but we will survive it. We will live through it. I don't think there's anyone chosen to live through it, but some people will.
So, in closing I would like to call on each and every person, regardless of who you are, young or old, Native or non-Native, to arise now, and to awake, to embrace this time, to learn everything you can about the Teachings and the Writings, to arise and awake and go forth, all the peoples of the earth.
Peoples everywhere are now receptive to the Message. This year is the year when that is really going to start, I believe, myself. Arise and awake.
There's people out there waiting to hear, waiting to hear... waiting to hear...

This is an edited version of a prophecy downloaded from: BCCA.ORG
in case you would like to read it in its entirety.



posted on Mar, 29 2005 @ 04:44 PM
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This original post reminded me a lot of the latter part of Robert Anton Wilson's Cosmic Trigger - About Timothy Leary's ideas (I think) about the 8 stages of human evolution, that mentioned 2012 too, and the exponential speed of evolution/consciousness.

Interesting stuff - syncronicity as it says in the book



posted on Mar, 30 2005 @ 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by StaggerLee

Originally posted by Tamahu
If there is indeed a transition in 2012, from one cycle to another; the change will probably be subtle, and the vulgar materialists and those not sensitive to more subtle vibrations; will not notice anything out of the ordinary.


Though as stated in my last post, look for something not so subtle to occur between 2040-2043, according to The Mayan Katun.....



...My personal opinion for 2040/43 will be a planetary alignment of our 9 planet combined with the intrusion of a comet called 'the destroyer' into our solar system. The destroyer has had catastrophic impact on the history of our planet and is allegedly responsible for the great flood of ancient myth as well as the plagues of Egypt and the parting of the red sea.



Peace StaggerLee


Interesting.

Is this 'destroyer' you refer to, known as Nibiru or Hecolubus?




Hercolubus "An unusual event is going to accelerate the process of swift change to the axis of the planet Earth. I am referring to the planet Hercolubus. This planet is six times bigger than the planet Jupiter. The planet Hercolubus belongs to the distant solar system of Tylo. The solar system of Tylo is rapidly approaching our solar system, and Hercolubus is rapidly approaching Earth. Modern Astronomers have before their sight the planet Hercolubus, or as it is known by modern science, the Barnard star. This planet is a powerful giant that will pass through an angle of our solar system. When this happens, the revolution of the axis of the planet Earth will accelerate violently. Then the final catastrophe will occur. Some scientists believe that they will be able to push this monstrous planet away with nuclear explosions, but this will be useless. It will be impossible to push this tremendous mass of a planet out of the way with mere nuclear bombs. This same planet brought Atlantis to an end. Before Atlantis existed, it annihilated the existence of another continent. We know very well that the continent of Mu or Lemuria sank within the waters of the boisterous pacific ocean after 10,000 years of earthquakes and incessant volcanic eruptions." - The Aquarian Message






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posted on Apr, 1 2005 @ 03:32 AM
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Sounds more like a nibiru thing. It's also interesting to note that during the last passing, the Destroyer (Nibiru) it is said to have dragged Venus into our solar system. This would co-relate with the Mayans and the Sumerians missing account of Venus from their astronomical data.



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mods are mods ... mods will be mods ... forever



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 04:21 AM
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Carl Calleman's interpretation of the Mayan Calander is certainly thought provoking
especially after seeing a presentation of it by Ian Lungold - Secrets of the Mayan Calendar Unveiled

Carl Calleman has a website here www.calleman.com...

A little about him

Dr. Carl J. Calleman PhD is a biochemical scientist from Sweden; he has for 30 years worked in labs performing microbiology experiments. Most of his work was investigating how pollution causes disease to proliferate. 8 years ago he trained his attention on the Mayan calendar to see what correlations or sets of facts could be proven not just “studied” as the archeologists have done. What he uncovered with his new found “hobby” is quickly changing the world and the way we live with it.



Ian Lungold has a site here www.mayanmajix.com...

This page will give you a quick 15 min overview of what they are on about www.mayanmajix.com...

A good selection of interesting reading on the articles page which is updated almost daily

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