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The Mayan calendar:explained!

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posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 04:31 AM
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Our understanding of the Mayan calendar comes from only 4 codexes that survived the Spanish colonialists attempts to destroy the Mayan's 'heathen' knowledge. Modern scholars still hold many different interpretations on the archaic time-keeping wisdom that the Mayans left behind. The notion of a long-count that ends in 2012 seems to be consisent among all the theories. However, what is infinitely more important and often disregarded is the role that the other calenders play.

The Tzolkin is a 260 and 360 day count that reveals the way each day human conciousness based on the orbit of venus, mercury and the moon (ie, some days are better to engage in spiritual work, other days are more geared towards physical survival). The role of Tzolkin is not essential to this thread, so I shall not elaborate upon it.

There is also another calendar that charts the evolution of matter since the beginning of this universe (which the Mayan believe to be 19.6 billion years ago). READ THIS PART CAREFULLY AS IT OFFERS CLUES TO OUR FUTURE. Basically, all the Mayan pyramids were 9 stories high. This symbolizes the 9 different eras of human evolution. Each stage (Mayans called them underworlds) is divided into periods of 7 days and 6 nights (hmmm, sounds like Genesis 1?) where evolution increased exponentially as time approached the 7th day (these describe the fluctuations of evolution during each stage. Again, this is a whole new discussion in itself). The stages get shorter by a factor of 20 (15 bya, 750 mya, 37.5 mya, etc) as they progress. The first is referred to as the cellular underworld, it was 1.536 B years long and accounts for the formation of large celestial bodies (planets, star systems, etc.). The next is the primary underworld, lasted 768 mya and was responsible for harnessing the conditions that would provide life on planets. The 3rd lasted 38.4 million years and describes a time when animals flourished on earth. After that comes the mammilian underworld, lasting 1.92 million years and illustrates the origin of intellect, primitive tools and early humans (australopithcus, hominines, etc.). Now it starts to get exciting..... the regional underworld lasted 96000 years and by this time humans were starting to recognize early spirituality with cave paintings, burial for the dead, etc. NOTE: specific events can fall outside the constraints of each underworld as the time spans depict the general tendency ie. dinosaurs lived more than 300 mya.


Now we arrive a point in time that is crucial..... The 'Fall' happened around the rough border of the regional underworld and it's predecessor. Civilization began to bloom 5000 years ago. Writing, pottery, religions, the processing of metals all began to emerge at roughly the same time. This pivotal point in our history was known to the Mayans as the National underworld. It lasted from approximately 3500 bc until 1700 ad. It was a time of conquest, religious worldviews and monarchies. During the early 1700's, evolution shifted to favour the planetary underworld which saw the end of religious rule (for the most part) and embracement of science. We entered the planetary underworld with the blueprints for the telegraph and left with the internet.

In 1999, the planetary underworld came to an end.... It's crowning acheivements were noted towards the 6th night and 7th days (1940-1999). This underworld provided a means for scientific marvel, but little in the way of spiritual development However, now we are in the Galactic underworld which spans from 1999-early 2012 (12 years). This is a time when technology will be fused with spirituality and can be our defining moment or our undoing. The underworld is young still, as it progresses we will see how different the world becomes relative to the planetary underworld. It may be early, but already evidence is emerging to support this claim. Look at Terrorism.... once a political annoyance, now a battle of religious supremacy. The threat of nuclear warfare has sparked the idea of 'end-times'. More people are becoming spiritually oriented or growing spiritually. We feel the effects of evolution speeding up as it manifests itself in stress and the inability to accomplish everything we feel needs to be done.

After the Galactic underworld comes to pass in early 2012, we enter into the universal underworld. This is the final underworld the Mayans recorded. This is it. It is said that this will be a time where humans will pass from a type I civilization into a type II civilization (read 'Hyperspace' for a furthur explanation). To give the jist of it, there's going to be a large congregation of people that unite to support peace, stability and spirituality to stand in the face of those that are responsible for oppression. Perhaps nuclear war, perhaps a comet, perhaps a fleet of extra-terrestrials will show up to dispell the illusion, who knows?

There will be conflict and resolution. 2012 is not the end of the world, but merely a transition into an era that cannot be described using our current model. Trying to describe it is like trying to imagine a colour you've never seen before. Personally, I believe we shall obtain advanced technologies. Quantum physics will be put to practical use, time and space travel will be made possible, nuclear fusion will be the main source of power. These things won't happen overnight, but dec 21st, 2012 will be the event that serves as the catalyst for these things.

In the end, we are responsible for deciding our fate. God is opening the door for us but we need to prove to him that we want to serve creation and not selfish ideals. To sit back and say "I can't wait for 2012 because then the world will be made perfect" is to complete miss the point. We are responsible for our future. There is no sense in trying to rally against some ambiguous New World Order or worry yourself sick about World War 3.

Instead, worry about your personal growth. If you refine yourself through the process of doing spiritual work you will begin to develop the faculties you need to survive in the future. Intuition, telepathy, good luck, etc. will be provided given that you have faith in higher forces and do the work required to obtain them. What is Work? that's a completely different subject that I will be very happy to start in a new thread.

In terms of good reading material that is REAL and not just a bunch of fantasized crap check out the following books:

1. Mayan Calendar - A transformation of consciousness by Johann Calleman
2. The Alchemy of Transformation - Lee Lozowick
3. Hyperspace (don't know the author)

Message me if you want a furthur explanation on anything discussed above.




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posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 10:59 AM
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Well, the pyramid of Kukulkan does have 9 levels, but this isn't true of other pyramids:
www.ocasa.org...

The Pyramid of the Dwarf pyramid has 4 levels:
www.isourcecom.com...

www.isourcecom.com...

The Pyramid of the Sorcerer and surrounding pyramids don't have 9 levels:
www2.hawaii.edu...


Odd

posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 11:02 AM
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we're already halfway through those twelve years, though, and i don't see any technology being fused with any spiritualism.

in fact, anybody that believes in god is ridiculed half to death by a segment of the population that actually believes themselves to be a majority... things are worse for spiritualism now than they were six years ago.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 12:25 PM
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Good point, and i dont understand this 'transformation' in 2012 either.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Byrd
Well, the pyramid of Kukulkan does have 9 levels, but this isn't true of other pyramids:
www.ocasa.org...

The Pyramid of the Dwarf pyramid has 4 levels:
www.isourcecom.com...

www.isourcecom.com...

The Pyramid of the Sorcerer and surrounding pyramids don't have 9 levels:
www2.hawaii.edu...



Yes your right.... In clarification, the ones that do have nine stories are meant to be symbolic of the nine underworlds. In ritual, the king (who was usually viewed as part divine) would ascend the nine stories and sit in the chamber at the top. By accomplishing this, he would have temporarily transcended time (from their perspective) and would then be bestowed with hidden knowledge. This is my attempt to paraphase what I've come across in 'A Transformation of Consciousness' and various other internet sources.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Odd
we're already halfway through those twelve years, though, and i don't see any technology being fused with any spiritualism.

in fact, anybody that believes in god is ridiculed half to death by a segment of the population that actually believes themselves to be a majority... things are worse for spiritualism now than they were six years ago.


Are you sure you have not seen technology fused with spirituality? think about this one.... The conflict in the middle east arises from one man's belief that he is a messenger from God meant to spread democracy to the world. He and his nation are using hi-tech means of affirming their tyrade while being met from threats from their foes of nuclear warfare to 'defeat the Great Satan'.

In October 2004, the FDA approved Applied Digital's Verichip. For those of you who aren't aware, it is a medical device that is implanted in the hand or back of the tricep and it allows for medical practioners to scan a person's personal information. It has been met with assaults from many fundamentalist Christians as well as other who believe it is the Mark of the Beast.

From natural medicine's perspective, you get worse before you get better. That's what happening right now. All the dirt and crap that is binding us spiritually must surface and be dealt with before we can get better and get over it. Perhaps your correct in saying the majority of people ridicule those that believe in God. But also consider the fact that it doesn't really matter. Those that believe in God are not shaken, their faith grows stronger. The future cannot sustain 6 billion people living on this planet. In reality, there's gonna be an event that will knock us down in population. Those that survive will have had their worldview completely shaken and the possibility of continuing an affluent lifestyle will not be realistic.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Odd
we're already halfway through those twelve years, though, and i don't see any technology being fused with any spiritualism.

in fact, anybody that believes in god is ridiculed half to death by a segment of the population that actually believes themselves to be a majority... things are worse for spiritualism now than they were six years ago.


Technology is being fused with spiritualism? Can you please explain this a little more? I do think technology altars the way we approach spirituality, our viewpoits and understandings. I don't quite think thats what you were trying to say though.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 02:27 PM
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Staggerlee.....
The things you are saying all chime in tune with the operation terra.com site......(prepare for a big read, free downloads)

I have had the 2012 Mayan calender described to me as a spiral coming to its center, and then turning back out............wich also correlates with your idea.
A new start, a new paradigm for existance......not the end of things, just the end of things as we know it.

www.operationterra.com



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 02:30 PM
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Stagger?
FYI I told DC to say those things...........

I personally like your theorey!



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 02:54 PM
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perhaps we will find that vibration will enlighten us/or destroy ..maybe a global machine will be made..perhaps harp will do this?will we enter the fourth dimension if our frequency raises up a few more notches..



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 03:04 PM
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Very insightful post


Perhaps, technology in the near future will.... how shall I put it....... technology will "prove/confirm" our spiritual existence. I'm not sure how it will manifest itself, maybe a finding on Mars, or another planet, genetic break through,... oh I do remember a Time article I read. It was titled "The God Gene" I believe...

Anyhow, good post!

Peace



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 03:30 PM
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Scientists have traced DNA back, and the possible number of ancestors required to develop the number of variations in our DNA.

Roughly 90,000 years ago, there were less than a few thousand human beings on planet earth. There was some type of cataclysm, a supervolcano, a meteor, we just dont know for certain. Before that time there were far more Human beings living. We came close to dying out at that time.
Nature is chaos, from our point of view. Stars exploding, volcanoes, meteors, comets, galaxies ramming into each other...any one of these would end our existance on earth.
From natures point of view, this is how the next phase begins. How many times other worlds have seen intelligent life raise itself up, progress and be extinguished we will never know.



The mayan calendar operates from the transit orbits of Venus, which is signified as a pentagram on many codexes and stella art. I would check to see what venus is doing in December of 2012.


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posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 03:37 PM
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about genetics..scientist have just been boggled..they found that plants can carry traits in their dna.archive..some of which have been thought to have disappeared a long time ago..and then..wah la...they appeared again..
its a different physics.
us humans i believe the same thing for..

now if they can figure that out..we can cure cancer etc..

also..dna has been traced back in time and we found that we all come from 3 females in africa..



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 04:55 PM
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An end of things as we know it, w/o worldwide destruction? In it's place, spiritual enlightenment? Now there's a doomsday prediction that one can enjoy!



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 11:03 PM
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that'd be cool if every thing stagger said comes true and 2012 is not the end of the world



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 11:52 PM
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Ive heard things along these same lines before... I too think it would be awesome. I read at one point that it was believed that 2012 is not the end of the world. And was never believed to be by the mayans. Instead, it was believed to be the start of a Golden Era.


We could sure use one of those eh?



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by Odd
we're already halfway through those twelve years, though, and i don't see any technology being fused with any spiritualism.

in fact, anybody that believes in god is ridiculed half to death by a segment of the population that actually believes themselves to be a majority... things are worse for spiritualism now than they were six years ago.


You might have misunderstood what he said, 2012 isnt going to be the date for these so called transformationswill fully come to pass, it will be the beginning. Every pivitol moment in man can be tracked down to one starting point. He's merely saying Dec 2012 might be a starting point to a new step in man. Good Post Stagger, well written



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by antrage

Originally posted by Odd
we're already halfway through those twelve years, though, and i don't see any technology being fused with any spiritualism.

in fact, anybody that believes in god is ridiculed half to death by a segment of the population that actually believes themselves to be a majority... things are worse for spiritualism now than they were six years ago.


You might have misunderstood what he said, 2012 isnt going to be the date for these so called transformationswill fully come to pass, it will be the beginning. Every pivitol moment in man can be tracked down to one starting point. He's merely saying Dec 2012 might be a starting point to a new step in man. Good Post Stagger, well written


yes, a well done piece,

but the Pivitol Moment is only: when the solstice sun crosses thru the 'birth canal' of the Milky Way




the ancient Maya, knew of the 'precession' phenomena...and i suspect their
astronomer-elite priests devised their various long-counts & other cycles on those expected celestial events.


The ancient Maya noticed that the winter solstice sun was slowly moving toward the Milky Way. Two great markers in the sky were converging, presenting a rare celestial juncture. Their calendar accurately tells us when this will occur, and it meant more than the birth of a new solar year. It meant the beginning of a New Great Cycle of time, the resetting of the great celestial StarClock of Precession
and, perhaps , an unprecented shift in the Nature of Human Consciousness and Civilization.

source: www.alignment2012.com/fap2.html





this drawing depicts the winter solstice of 50BCE
with the Milky Way some 30 degrees above horizon
but on winter solstice 2012 the Milky Way
along with the 'void' area (birth canal) will be exactly
On The Earths horizon, where the land & sky meet!
........and the sun will rise, from this dark rift area!!.......
........waaa waaa, waaa waaa, twilight zone stuff!?.....

this will occur in another 26,000 years, its a cycle,
not a start or finish, just like a arc segment is part
of a circle...
If anything develops, it is the result of mans desire to
make things develop in accord with the rare event.

recall the story of how Nero fiddled as Rome burned...
well, the Armegeddon Politics of today
is plucking the strings you are hearing
keep-your-head-on-straight
peace



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by infinite8
Technology is being fused with spiritualism? Can you please explain this a little more? I do think technology altars the way we approach spirituality, our viewpoits and understandings. I don't quite think thats what you were trying to say though.


I didn't mean they'd be creating technology that would somehow be embued with spirituality. Rather, technology would be the mechanism to serve spiritual ideals. In the last underworld, technology took the place of religion/spirituality. More scientists/adminstrations viewed IT as our saviour and embraced every new development. Wars were fought more for general dominance and spatial concerns. However, since 9/11 those in power have focused more upon 'evil doers', 'axis of evil', and 'Great Satan's', etc to use the name of God to justify their wars.

The face of war is evolving. Developing new military technology seems to be the main focus of world governments. We are in the lull of a great storm right now. A storm that will be fuelled by contrasting religions.

To those who may be skeptical, the greatest acheivements of the last underworld came during the 6th night and 7th day. In terms of this underworld, events will be preliminary to what should develop by 2010-2011.



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 06:10 PM
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I'm going to make a prediction from having seen about ten of these "great vibrational events that will change the Earth" since 1965 (including the planetary lineup and Y2K and the Nostradamus prophecies of 1999):

The calendar is just a calendar. What will happen in 2012 is that we will flip our calendars and have to start writing 2013. People will still be the same, technology will still develop at the same pace (whatever that would be at that time) and people will start suddenly showing up with predictions about the Next Great Revolution (I think that one's 2032 so you have more time to prepare.) Oh... and there'll be the Great Asteroid Panic of 2014.

Don't look for some sort of Cosmic Uplift to bring changes in the world. Start looking at legislation and voting, instead.



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