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Freemason Bible?!

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posted on Jul, 14 2005 @ 11:03 PM
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you think you got a raw deal...all i got was michigan...woohooo




posted on Jul, 14 2005 @ 11:06 PM
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Your idea of "cult" seems sort of strange to start with.

Do a google for CULT CHECKLIST.

Cult's usually REQUIRE money, "slave" labor for the cult, a leader with impunity, sexual habits controlled by the leader (only sex with the leader or who he says, have lots of kids, have no kids...), limited or no contact with non-members, levels of knowledge you must pay for with money or time or something, there's a bunch more. (having it's own navy...just kidding...not really.)

[edit on 14-7-2005 by 2nd Hand Thoughts]



posted on Jul, 15 2005 @ 07:30 PM
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i have a free mason bible its just a king james with like 30 extra pages talking about the beliefs of free masonry anyone want me to make scans of it or something



posted on Jul, 15 2005 @ 09:36 PM
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i got a few more but i need to edit out names

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posted on Jul, 15 2005 @ 11:05 PM
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Gee, look how evil and nefarious Freemasonry is! It tells its members to be benevolent and charitable, especially to those who cannot help themselves! Good God, these Freemasons should all be dragged out in the street and shot for their teachings!

You conspiracy kooks are as ignorant as they come. Here you have it, straight from a bible that is presented to Freemasons when they receive their third degree and, from what you can obviously see for yourselves, the world would be a better place if everyone followed the teachings of Freemasonry.



posted on Jul, 16 2005 @ 12:42 PM
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hi,

I was surfing the internet and found a PDF file of "Morals and Dogma". You have to have Acrobat Reader for the file to work. The actual book had like a "500 page" index and it was used as the Freemasons Bible Take a look at it by clicking on the hyperlink below:

www.nwowatcher.com...



posted on Jul, 16 2005 @ 12:51 PM
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Very cool phantompatriot I have that exact same bible, even the cover is worn and discolored the same way. It was my great Grandfathers. I use it quite often since it’s the oldest KJ version that I can find. It has some beautiful illustrations in the front of the temple as well.


Codycougar91 Don’t sweat it about “their” bible, these guys here can attest that I am not exactly a mason supporter, yet I have and use this book as well, and have checked it against copies on E-Sword, as well as other hard copies and there is nothing different about the actual biblical writings, only added stuff in the preface.



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posted on Jul, 16 2005 @ 01:04 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to scan that for us.

I like looking at any "older" book that is interesting in ways such as this. This is so much cooler than just a text file.



posted on Jul, 16 2005 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by ghostdog007
I was surfing the internet and found a PDF file of "Morals and Dogma". You have to have Acrobat Reader for the file to work. The actual book had like a "500 page" index and it was used as the Freemasons Bible


What do you mean "it was used as the Freemasons Bible"?!?!? That is absolutely FALSE! The ONLY book ever used as the masonic bible is THE KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE!!!!!!!!!! Morals & Dogma is just a study of the degrees of the Scottish Rite's Southern U.S. jurisdiction. Nothing more.

Freemasonry doesn't have a central book upon which it is based (in the movie 'From Hell', the old doctor's character is discussing Freemasonry and one of its central legends and refers to the "the book", but this is a mistake).

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posted on Jul, 16 2005 @ 02:31 PM
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Would you be willing to scan the second page of the first image to get those words at the right better? The references to Solomon's Temple are interesting. I'd genuinely appreciate if you could get the illustration of the Temple too.

(Not long ago I copied 8 pages from a 1947 Encyclopedia Britannica which mentioned that some freemasons had been a little overzealous in stating their connections with the Temple over the years.)

[edit: spelling]





[edit on 16-7-2005 by 2nd Hand Thoughts]



posted on Jul, 16 2005 @ 05:14 PM
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On the lodge I've petitioned to join we have the Koran, Torah, and Bible on the "altar," (Don't know the proper term yet.) Kind of hard to have Masonic bible when all three main religions are represented equally at lodge meetings. But then again it is an extremely diverse and international lodge.

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posted on Jul, 16 2005 @ 06:11 PM
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yea ill get some better scans and mine belonged to my great uncle who was past grand master vice mayor and head of the school board.



posted on Jul, 16 2005 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by ghostdog007
hi,

I was surfing the internet and found a PDF file of "Morals and Dogma". You have to have Acrobat Reader for the file to work. The actual book had like a "500 page" index and it was used as the Freemasons Bible


M&D has never been used as a "freemasons Bible". The book is a collection of lectures concerning the philosophical inquiries of the Scottish Rite, and was given as a gift to new members.



posted on Jul, 16 2005 @ 06:35 PM
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no more words cut off




king solomons temple



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 04:33 PM
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Sooooooooooo confused:


>>>>Recognizing the impossibility of confining the teachings of Masonry
>>>>>to any fixed forms of expression.



Well, Parsifal had to learn compassion by himself, yet Jesus
the wrongdoer used his share parables which I consider rather fixed.


>>>>>yet acknowleging the value of authoritative statements
>>>>>of fundamental principles.


"authoritative".....I guess they mean the bible.
Nothing ever written by man shouldn't be
left to scrutinization.

But wait..What if the bible was written by men ? hmm....


>>>>>Masonry teaches man to practice charity and benevolence


by opening their lodges to business meetings...right....




>>>>>to protect chastity


Kinsey rolls under his thumb.



>>>>>To respect the ties of blood and friendship


Almost nazi.

But I'll forgive them that the Bible itself promotes nazi ideals.

(chosen people...etc....)



And...after a few good intentions....we come back to
some more confusion:


>>>>>>guard the altar


Weird.



>>>>>support the government

Easier when you put lots of masons "in" the government.



>>>>>inculcate morality


Pfff..... closeted fraternity is not moral.
It creates segregations, however gentle they are.
Everyone is invited but it still emphasizes a notion of
"Us Or Them".



>>>>promote learning.


Not really. The best books that promoted masonic teachings
are condemned by the community.



>>>>>love man


Fraternity creates alienation for a brotherhood that could encompass
all of human kind.




>>>>Fear God.


I've seen men kinder than that god.
I propose to God to benefit from the teachings
of its creation.



>>>>>implore his mercy



Make me disappear if you're going to
torture me.




>>>>>> hope for happiness

After death You'll know or not if true
happiness exist.

In this universe the only happiness
is the one you are able to invent.



Cedric Phi



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Centiment
In this universe the only happiness
is the one you are able to invent.

Cedric Phi


A lot of truth in that statement, the only one that made sense to me, the rest was arguementitive rhetoric.

OK, to your statement, I think that's what the Masons are doing, inventing their happiness with their fellowship. I also think that you are doing this as well. Inventing your happiness by argueing with them.



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Centiment
>>>>>Masonry teaches man to practice charity and benevolence

by opening their lodges to business meetings...right....


What business meetings?!? What the hell are you talking about?!?



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 08:13 PM
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Maybe I have a fetisch for old men wearing aprons.


Cedric Phi



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 09:10 PM
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>>>>>To respect the ties of blood and friendship


Almost nazi.


That's one hell of a reach if you take the above statement at face value. You are talking about the third reich natsies aren't you? You might want to brush up a bit.

You don't have any ties to family or friends huh? Guess you'd be willing to donate a kidney or two to me then eh??? I'll get my doctor on the phone...where can I reach you again?



posted on Jul, 18 2005 @ 09:45 PM
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>>>>You don't have any ties to family or friends huh?



Not to the point of casting my identity unto them, no.


We all know family members we don't share
much traits with, as much as we all have temporary friends
we realize that bore us.


Nothing is sacred.



I believe in respect but I don't
see any points in priviledging
that behavior to people with who we
have ties.


The samurais would tell you to respect your enemy, first.


Cheers,


Cedric Phi



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