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reply posted on 13-4-2005 @ 07:30 PM by Macrento

(posted by dotgov101)
(...) Mr. Gray, methinks.


Clever insight! But fear not. We're the good guys "out there". It's the scaly, cold-blooded ones, and their android robots and thought projections (a.k.a. MIBs), you must avoid at all times. Remember, never trust a Lizard.

Enjoying sz (!!!)

In our ongoing study of the mind of the earthling we were surprised to find, at the said Board, the case of someone who actually hates it when she's "normal". See for yourself...

--HI-
i've been having schizophrenic symptoms all my life...since i was about 3 years old, maybe younger. i was diagnosed about a year ago. I have also been off medications. I recently had another real bad episode and went back to the hospital. I told them i would go back on the geodon, only if it is a very low dose, because i do not want all my symptoms taken away.
anyway, i've been back on the geodon, 20 mgs for about 2 weeks ( i think the average dose is around 120 mgs) and it has helped somewhat. I am not completly delusional, but still paranoid and suspcicious. but im still having the negative symptoms, voices, visuals, altered sense of self (though not as much) and thought problems.

I;m so use to my symptoms. it's they only way i have ever known myself to be. It is strange and depressing for me to have to be on high doses of meds and have all my symptoms taken away. I dont know how to go about life "normally" im glad some people in my life are starting to listen to how i feel, but most still cant understand "why the heck wouldn;t i want to be normal" well i dont want to be normal because it is alien to me...i have never been normal.

Unfortunatly, i am unable to work because of all the negative symptoms, paranoia, and thought problems. I have never had a job yet (im 18.) and i had to drop out of school.

An alopogy

..for Infinite, who we sense is sick & tired of the irrelevant chatter. So from now on we shall communicate with Dot Gov thru comments at the blog site ( if she grants the privilege, of course), remotely, from our cozy little base on the far side of your Moon....




reply posted on 13-4-2005 @ 08:27 PM by dotgov101
Ahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

I found the link to the short story by Vonnegut. It's a quick read.....

Harrison Bergeron, by Kurt Vonnegut (1961)

From Wikipedia:
The dystopian short story "Harrison Bergeron" by Kurt Vonnegut, opens with the line "The year was 2081, and everyone was finally equal."

Unfortunately, this equality has been achieved by handicapping the most intelligent, athletic or beautiful members of society down to the level of the lowest common denominator, a process central to the society which is overseen by the United States Handicapper General, who at the time of the story is the shotgun-toting Diana Moon Glampers.

Harrison Bergeron, the title character, is by age 14 exceptionally gifted in all three aspects -- already seven feet tall, "a man that would have awed Thor, the god of thunder" -- and outgrowing hindrances faster than the Handicapper General's office can think them up. When he is taken to prison for plotting to overthrow the government, for a moment he escapes and manages to break free of his imposed handicaps, and into a television studio

The story was adapted into a TV film in 1995 starring Sean Astin. It also formed a segment of the 1972 TV production and book Between Time and Timbuktu. It was first published in The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, October 1961, and is collected in Welcome to the Monkey House.

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I dig Vonnegut..I (of course) forgot the name of my favourite book of his, but I'll remember it soon. Ahhahhhhhhh. Hocus Pocus is my favourite.
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Ahhahhhhh...this is why I "connect" with his stories...he touches on hereditary mental illness in Hocus Pocus. Now I know why.

Vonnegut Family Tree
Kurt Vonnegut has six children (three of his own and three adopted). Two of these children have published books, including his only son, Mark Vonnegut, who wrote The Eden Express: A Memoir of Insanity, about his experiences in the late 1960s and his major psychotic breakdown and recovery; the tendency to insanity he acknowledged may be partly hereditary, influencing him to take up the study of medicine and orthomolecular psychiatry. Mark was named after Mark Twain who Vonnegut considered an American saint.

That was a doozy.
Dot.

p.s. feel free to talk some sense into me with my blog. I'm also going to buy a domain and have a gallery.



[edit on 13-4-2005 by dotgov101]


reply posted on 30-4-2005 @ 04:05 AM by Truthisoutthere
I'am sorry Bobbo. You are a phsycologist I presume ?

First of all. Anyone who reads the scriptures I suggested will find some peace. It's poetry you know, positive affirmations. Did I say he should accept Christ ??

"I've expressed before that it's not wise to get into a life-changing spiritual event when you've got the beginning stages of an illness like this, and I wish the holy rollers who think reading the bible would help would stop giving out this absurd advice."

You can express your feelings or emotions, but as a pyschologist you know it doesn't mean anything.

Absurd you say ! First of all you have all ready prejudged me. I am not a holy roller as you call it.

" faith is fine to have if you have it before your sick, or if it is picked up while you are dying, but it IS NOT something to change in the middle of a serious mental illness. "

This statement is even more absurd. What exactly are you trying to say in the statement above ? Do you not think that finding faith in God would be a positive attribute in his life even if he receives it after he had been diagnosed. You need to ask yourself what is faith ? What can it due to the mind spirit and body ? I won't even comment on your last sentence.

"Infinite is ill. he's not possessed, retarded, stupid, or unholy. he's sick, and he's getting treatment. I wouldn't tell you to read the bible if you had a broken leg, because it wouldn't do any good. So stop telling infinite to read it for his illness."

Did I say that Infinite was possessed ? I missed that part. Did I conclude somewhere that Infinite was retarded ? Did I mention stupidity or unholyness ? I am glad that infinite is receiving treatment. This is great, as it sounds like he needs it.

It sure sounds to me that you have some kind of religous hangup though.

Lean back in my leather couch and close your eyes Bobbo. Tell me when you started felling this way towards God and religion.




reply posted on 30-4-2005 @ 02:45 PM by dotgov101
I try to be as devout a Christian as possible, and still have schiz to deal with. In respect to the pros of concentrating on yourself, I agree with it as you are in the early stages. As much as I would love to share Christianity with you, I know exactly what you are currently going through.

In fact, in the advanced stages of shiz (which I am now categorized as), I got asked the most profound question two sessions ago. When explaining my Bad Ugly Super Duper Secret Thoughts to a nurse, then explaining that I would never ACT on them because God would send me to ehell, I got asked the following:

What would happen if my illness/brain chemistry became stronger than my faith?

As I used to study science, I looked at the question from an objective point of view. I could easily have brushed it off and said, "Oh, God is stronger than Schizophrenia. He'll cure me." When in fact, I know in my heart that God gave it to me as a gift to help others. When my thoughts are bad (trust me, when I say bad, I mean reaaaalllllllyyyy bad), I do pray as I'm rocking back and forth in my chair.

I practice Christianity, and I'm a schiz. However, my advice to you is to educate yourself on your illness first and foremost. Your health comes first. Though one of the principles of Christianity is to share it with others, sharing Christianity must be done only if it does not physically or psychologically damage the non-believer.

Find yourself first. Then be yourself. If you wish to be a wiccan, pagan, etc., and you feel that helps you, than do it. My choice is to be a Christian. No, I'm not a psychologist nor a theologian, but I am a schiz. Even my doctors have told me that the only experts on Schizophrenia are the Schizophrenics themselves.

If you feel like skimming the Bible, there are passages on illness, suffering, faith, overcoming obstacles, etc. I use it as a guidebook for my life. It helps me...and it helps me act "normal" by telling me what's good and what isn't.

Just like one man's trash is another man's treasure, the opposite rings true. One man's treasure can turn into another man's trash.

To the Christians reading this.....would you give The Bible to a comatose person and tell them to read it? would you give it to a starving child in a third-world country and tell them to study up? would you give it to a recently-raped woman who is in shock and tell her that all of her answers are between the covers?

I wouldn't. Though it would benefit them, it would only benefit them once they had their druthers in order. Once they had the health to read it and acknowledge what it is saying. There is nothing wrong with giving people Bibles. What is wrong is telling them WHEN to read them, particularly when that person is suffering physically and/or psychologically.

Still a Believer,
Dot.
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