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.9 repeating = 1? Is our numerical system flawed?

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posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 01:37 AM
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First of all, it was a rense link.


Second, I'm sure Einstein was smarter than you, unless you care to explain where he was wrong in detail.

Third, quit thinking reality. You can't use paint to understand mathematic theory. 10x + 1 = y doesn't exist, it's theory. You can't grasp onto it.

Did you even go to school, or are we dealing with a ?

Don't feed the trolls!



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 01:42 AM
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Zomg this rense article:



Seriously?


notice how the 3, 9, and 6 is in red and does not connect at the base. That is because it is a vector. The 1,2,4,8,7,5 is the third dimension while the oscillation between the 3 and 6 demonstrates the fourth dimension, which is the higher dimensional magnetic field of an electrical coil. The 3, 9, and 6 always occur together with the 9 as the control. In fact, the Yin/Yang is not a duality but rather a trinary. This is because the 3 and 6 represent each side of the Yin/Yang and the 9 is the "S" curve between them. Everything is based on thirds. We think that the universe is based on dualities because we see the effects not the cause.


Wow, now that I'm so gullible to believe this, perhaps I'll join Scientology.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 01:44 AM
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Why does he keep thinking we don't understand what decimals and fractions are?

Normally I'd give up, but this is too funny.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 01:47 AM
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Here let me make it simple. Since all of you are Einstien worshipers and close minded wanna be mathemeticians..



1 - .9 = .1

1 - .99 = .01

1 - .999 = .001

1 - .9999 = .0001

1 - .99999 = .00001

1 - .999999 = .000001

1 - .9999999 = .0000001

DO I EVEN NEED TO CONTINUE?

1 - .9... = .0...1

I'm sorry, but it is true.

When I say STOP ROUNDING DOWN. This is what I mean...

All you people who think .9... is equal to 1, you are subconciously adding the very number you say doesn't exist. You are adding .0...1 the very second you "think" that .9... is equal to 1.

If .0...1 doesn't exist, then how does .9... ever reach 1? It doesn't.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 01:49 AM
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Okay, can we do this step by step?

What is .3333... x 3 equal to oh wise one?



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 01:49 AM
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You dont' even know who "Marko Rodin" is, because you are still brainwashed to warship Einstien for some reason. It was a rense article, yet the entire website or Marko Rodin is on the link I gave you.. Wow you people truely are the dogs..

"Don't give that which is holy to the dogs".

Goodbye dogs.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by Sublime620
What is .3333... x 3 equal to oh wise one?


YOU DONT EVEN KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. Can I ask, what calculator are you using to do that equation?

As far as I know, and that I have been told by someone who posted earlyer, that we don't have the capability of doing a calculation with infinity in it. So you are flawed already.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 01:52 AM
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I do know the answer, I want you to say it. Look back, I've already provided the answer.

Anyone who says we can't do calculations with infinity has no idea how to do basic math.

And while I am not using a calculator because this is basic math, I do have a scientific graphing calculator in my desk if you want me to confirm for some reason.


So I ask again, what are:

3 x .3333333333333333...

and

3 x 1/3

Also, is:

1/3 = .333333333333333...

If not, why?

[edit on 4-4-2008 by Sublime620]



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by Sublime620
Anyone who says we can't do calculations with infinity has no idea how to do basic math.



Originally posted by nataylor
I don't know about you, but I certainly don't have a calculator capable of displaying an infinite number of digits. A calculator is incapable of displaying .9... or using it in a calculation.



So if nataylor doesn't know basic math, and YOU seem to agree with HIM. Then I guess its safe to say you both don't know what you are talking about.

[edit on 4-4-2008 by ALLis0NE]



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by Sublime620
1/3 = .333333333333333...
If not, why?


Because .3... is infinite, and 1/3 is finite.

Simple.

That is your flaw, you keep thinking .3... is a VALID representation of 1/3 when it is NOT.

1 - .9 = .1

1 - .99 = .01

1 - .999 = .001

1 - .9999 = .0001

1 - .99999 = .00001

1 - .999999 = .000001

1 - .9999999 = .0000001

1 - .99999999... = .00000000...1


[edit on 4-4-2008 by ALLis0NE]



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:03 AM
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Okay, so you are saying there is no decimal representation of 1/3?

1 cannot be divided by 3?



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by Sublime620
Okay, so you are saying there is no decimal representation of 1/3?



Actually I am saying there is NO EXACT, or CORRECT, representation of 1/3.

Since the infinite world has no meaning to human (because of their lack of knowledge) they can simply round off the numbers, and be happy witht he result. That seems to be what you are all doing.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:12 AM
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Sublime620 Do this...


Get your caluclator. Clear it. Press 1.

Now, from there, make your calculator say .9...

YOU HAVE TO SUBTRACT.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:12 AM
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You are beyond hope my friend.

Hopefully you have chosen a career path that does not paralell with any sort of math or science.

Could I perhaps suggest art, philosophy, or any other career where BS can pass for something useful?


Circular logic for the loss!



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:16 AM
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Nice, its too bad that I am 500+ years beyond you, or anyone heres research. LOL. So what I say may sound like I don't know what I'm talking about, but the truth is, it is you that doesn't understand. Just like the people that couldn't comprehend raido, when Nikola Tesla invented it.

I'm sorry that you realized the truth after I said this:

Get your caluclator. Clear it. Press 1.

Now, from there, make your calculator say .9...

YOU HAVE TO SUBTRACT.



[edit on 4-4-2008 by ALLis0NE]



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:20 AM
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1 - .9 = .1

1 - .99 = .01

1 - .999 = .001

1 - .9999 = .0001

1 - .99999 = .00001

1 - .999999 = .000001

1 - .9999999 = .0000001

1 - .99999999... = .00000000...1


The chart above proves the existance of .0...1

Basicly it is the faith that the pattern will continue. I'm sorry you don't have faith.



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:24 AM
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What does your proof have to do with anything we are discussing?

I'm not sure I could even pull anything like that off with my calculator, since it understands limits.

It knows that .333333333... x 3 = 1, even thought, it should = .9999999999...



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:26 AM
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IT EXISTS. It moves TOWARDS 0. Theoretically (that's an important word), it reaches 0, though that is not seen.

This is theory, son.

**Edited to add:

But even then:

.999999999... eventually = 1

So more realistically:

1 - .99999999... = 0

That's theory, though.

[edit on 4-4-2008 by Sublime620]



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:31 AM
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Originally posted by Sublime620
It knows that .333333333... x 3 = 1, even thought, it should = .9999999999...



LOL!!

Your calculator is a p.o.s. if you got 1 instead of .9...

lol. Maybe you should try another calculator lol....



posted on Apr, 4 2008 @ 02:33 AM
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The more you post, the deeper you dig yourself in.

You should really just go back and edit to delete your posts.

Do you really want people to read you saying this?

**Edited to add:

Do you know why you just dug yourself into a hole?

[edit on 4-4-2008 by Sublime620]



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