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FOX NEWS: We Report, You Decide

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posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 10:38 PM
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I love FOX news for one reason.... The moments when Combs puts Hannity in his place (Beware, it may take several hours before Combs gets a word in.) Like when Hannity was bashing anti-war/ recruiting protesters on campus a couple weeks ago, and kind of forgot that they have the right to free speech and protest.

But seriously, I don't take anything I see on FOX or CNN [too seriously] for that matter. Everyone has an agenda if nothing more than seeking a truth, be it seen as truth by another or not. These stations are no different, except they have corporate sponsors, if not a corporation themselves, with corporate interests.

One thing I personally hate, especially with O'Reily is how he slams rap. To me it seems that rap/hip-hop is where a lot of anti political or anti war music is coming from nowadays, though not as much as the rock from the Veitnam era. Wether or not this is a "conspiracy against anti-war" or just that O'Reily is just old fashioned, beats me though the thought did cross my mind.

[edit in brackets]

[edit on 24-3-2005 by silentlonewolf]




posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 10:40 PM
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Here's something I think that each of you should seriously invest in:
Yes, you too can have your very own FOX-proof Cable Box

Can't get one or afford one, objectively use your remote.

Personally, I would be interested to see what "news" you do watch and proclaim as being "balanced".




seekerof



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by James the Lesser
What? Read what die hard republicans post, or say, Like Ann Coulter, and that is all it is. "The liberals are coming, the Liberals are coming! They gonna be paying women the same us us holy white men, they gonna treat blacks like they were us holy white men!"(ahem, the entire CSA/Slave states/Red States/bible belt said this in the 50s'70 when the northern dems were trying to make it legal for blacks to vote, not be lynched for eating at a "white" resturant, so forth) how is it racist? These people, like AC, believe liberals are the anti-christ and will eat their babies so they should all, in AC words, be nuked. Nuke anyone who doesn't bow down before Bush.

Sad, the slaves states always vote republican, funny isn't it?



James

Both red and blue states have their crazies! Each side has the extremists that will say or do anything to promote their agenda.

Red side
Rush
Bill O'Riley
Tom (Pit Bull) Delay

Blue side
Ted (where is my drink) Kennedy
Jesse Jackson
Hillary Clinton

To bunch all republicans together a start generalizing is just plain racism.

All those slave states in the time frame your quoting (60-70's) were not red states they voted for Dem's.

Why do you think that these so called slave states vote Republican now. It comes down to plain old family values. That and they don't want to live in a socialist country that give 60% of their paycheck to the gov't so they can blow the wad on poor spending.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by worldwatcher

Hopefully members here do not rely only on FOX news for news, because most of it is opinion and not news.

[edit on 3-24-2005 by worldwatcher]


Nice liberal thread - I enjoy watching liberals pat on another on the back.

Chief



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 08:36 AM
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We report, you decide!



More like we decide, you shut the f*** up and listen.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by Hlodde
Liberals!! Gotta love em.

I will be the first to admit that Fox news leans to the right. Can any of you that have been bashing Fox just admit that the other major news networks (CNN, CBS, etc) do everything in their power to promote a liberal agenda?

PS. I get just as amused as you folks while watching CNN!

OK, one thing is, that a TV station has a "liberal agenta" or a "republican agenda".

An entire diffrent thing is, if one TV station LIES just about every report they do! I mean, one thing is to "bend the truth" a little, so fit your liberal/republican agenda. But to lie about facts, which were denied by the White House and just about every other media on the planet, is just plain PROPAGANDA! It has nothing to do with journalism, or reporting. As I said, Goebbels would be extremly proud, if he saw what Fox News is doing!

PS: I dont watch CNN. I prefer my local news station, they tend to be more objective on the matters which they report.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah
Goebbels would be extremly proud, if he saw what Fox News is doing!



Shall we start referring to Rupert Murdoch as 'The Poison Dwarf MkII'?



I watched some of 'Outfoxed' and was amazed to hear that the network recieves something like a Communique from HQ everyday telling them what ind of spin to put on things and basically censoring the contentof the network. Defiance of these daily orders leads to quick unemployment.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah


An entire diffrent thing is, if one TV station LIES just about every report they do! I mean, one thing is to "bend the truth" a little, so fit your liberal/republican agenda. But to lie about facts, which were denied by the White House and just about every other media on the planet, is just plain PROPAGANDA! It has nothing to do with journalism, or reporting. As I said, Goebbels would be extremly proud, if he saw what Fox News is doing!

Souljah,

Before 8pm est. Fox news is a news station, they report news as factual. 8pm and after the broadcasts are not news but opinion shows hosted by different individuals.

As far as lying have you ever heard of Dan Rather?



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Hlodde
Souljah,

Before 8pm est. Fox news is a news station, they report news as factual. 8pm and after the broadcasts are not news but opinion shows hosted by different individuals.

As far as lying have you ever heard of Dan Rather?

Factual? News? Report?



OK, let me ask you something? Do you work for Fox News? Or does your cousin or something?

Because you sure are defending them, and what they define as "journalism"?

Most people refer to Fox, not as News, but as Comedy channel.

So, how come you dont?



PS: Who's Dan Rather?



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 10:54 AM
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Souljah,

Wow man. Who is Dan Rather? A question like that but yet so ready to attack Fox news. I just don't understand how you can attack one side so harshly and not understand the other side.

I do not work at Fox. I watch Fox along with NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN. Fox leans right the others left. Hell even NPR slants everything to promote what they care to promote. I take each news broadcast for what it is. It will lean to promote their point of view.

I replied to this thread just because there was so much attacking on one side. The attacks should be even on both sides. Each side is just a guilty.

I do vote Republican sometimes, but not all the time. I enjoy voting for people that don't stick to their party lines. That see things for what they are and not what their party wants them to see.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 12:10 PM
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Hlodde,

I am sorry. I made a mistake. I know who Dan Rather is, by seeing his picture I remembered I know him.

So Dan Rather is your counter-weight to Fox News and mister Bill O'Reilly?

Well, I RATHER listen to comments like...

"We said earlier in the evening at one point that Governor Bush would probably be as mad as a rained-on rooster."

"I think you would likelier see a hippopotamus run through this room than see George Bush appoint Ralph Nader to the Cabinet."

"The polls have been veering and wobbling so much that neither NASA nor the Russian Cosmodrome could track 'em in some cases."

...then somebody saying "Shut Up!" all the time!



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 12:26 PM
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Souljah,

I can't believe I am defending Bill O'Riley cause I really don't like him, but here goes.

At least Mr. O'Riley doesn't attempt to fool the public by calling his broadcast a newscast. He calls it what it is: His opinion. He calls out his guests all the time, but his guests know what they are getting themselves into by going on the program. I think Bill has been overtaken by his ego, and almost everyother statement out of his mouth revolves around himself and his opinion. He gets on my last nerve and I really can't stand to watch him anymore. I liked his show when it first came out before he got too into himself.

Now Mr Rather. He gets a forged fax about a negitive story about Bush. He asks his assistants to check it out and see if its newsworthy. His assistants come back to him and say that they can't verify anything in the memo. What does Rather do?? He presents the forged document as news. He gets busted for what he has done (by FOX news... a bit ironic huh), which leads to his retirement!

My whole point is that for every example of Fox news promoting a Red state agenda, there is another example on the other side.

Just be open minded whenever you listen to any news outlet. They are all serving someone, if not then its pure greed.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 12:44 PM
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If I'm reading Souljah's posts correctly, I can clear up the confusion. I believe he's stating that all news outlets are biased, therefore all can be dismissed. So you can bash Fox, along with CNN, CBS, etc. It's not about picking a side, it's about thinking for yourself. Am I right here Souljah?

Personally I think this is very apt.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
If I'm reading Souljah's posts correctly, I can clear up the confusion. I believe he's stating that all news outlets are biased, therefore all can be dismissed. So you can bash Fox, along with CNN, CBS, etc. It's not about picking a side, it's about thinking for yourself. Am I right here Souljah?

Personally I think this is very apt.

Thanks mister intrepid for clearing that up!

As said in the title; We report, You decide.

You can buy everything they sell you,

Or you can first see what everybody is selling,

And the buy what you think its worth selling.


Its just good old game of Red vs Blue.

[edit on 25/3/05 by Souljah]



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Hlodde
Souljah,

I can't believe I am defending Bill O'Riley cause I really don't like him, but here goes.

At least Mr. O'Riley doesn't attempt to fool the public by calling his broadcast a newscast. He calls it what it is: His opinion. He calls out his guests all the time, but his guests know what they are getting themselves into by going on the program. I think Bill has been overtaken by his ego, and almost everyother statement out of his mouth revolves around himself and his opinion. He gets on my last nerve and I really can't stand to watch him anymore. I liked his show when it first came out before he got too into himself.

Now Mr Rather. He gets a forged fax about a negitive story about Bush. He asks his assistants to check it out and see if its newsworthy. His assistants come back to him and say that they can't verify anything in the memo. What does Rather do?? He presents the forged document as news. He gets busted for what he has done (by FOX news... a bit ironic huh), which leads to his retirement!

My whole point is that for every example of Fox news promoting a Red state agenda, there is another example on the other side.

Just be open minded whenever you listen to any news outlet. They are all serving someone, if not then its pure greed.

And I agree with you.

For every Red player there has to be a Blue player.

You mean that for every Rather there is O'Reilly?

I was not defending mister Rather, since I really dont know much about him (except the stuff I just read on wikipedia). I was just saying that mister O'Reilly has gone out of line; his "reporting" can hardly be called journalism. Ofcourse he may express his opinion, but I dont think it really IS HIS opinion, but "what they wrote his opinion should be". But I see even you, an ex-fan of the show, stopped watching it, meaning he is really gone out of line, just like the entire network station, allowing him to do that, or better INSTRUCTING him to do that.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 01:52 PM
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OOO! Dan Rather you say???? Well, funny story........ Karl Rove has/was connected to the documents given to Dan Rather........ Like how when Rove was younger he joined a Dem. team to steal the letterheads of the dem office and sent out invitations to a "Free drugs, free women, free alchohol" party. Or when he was caught teaching other Republicans Nixon style tactics, and then hired by Bush 41. Or when he "found" a bug in his opffice, the FBI investigated and found he planted the bug to make the dem candidate look bad.

So, using someone who was USED by the Bush Administration as defense against something that is owned by the Bush Admin. is kinda flawed.

Ok, same situation, little smaller. I am the Mayor of Toledo, I am known for being the bitch of the local mafia don. I say well, you think I am bad? Look at my opponet! He once killed a man! Sure he was a police officer during a shootout with the mafia, but still, he killed someone!!!!



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by Souljah
But I see even you, an ex-fan of the show, stopped watching it, meaning he is really gone out of line, just like the entire network station, allowing him to do that, or better INSTRUCTING him to do that.


Hey were getting a bit closer in our debate. A couple quick tidbits. I was never a "fan" of the show. That would imply fanatic. Bill was entertaining as a Dateline or 60 min's show would be.

Also I doubt that Bill follows any instructions from the Right. He differs on his opinions a lot from the Republican platform. (ie his judge bashing, some social programs, etc.) I believe he is too full of himself to be dictated to.

I do think Fox news probably gets talking points from the Republican party as does CBS from the Democrat party.



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by James the Lesser
What? Read what die hard republicans post, or say, Like Ann Coulter, and that is all it is. "The liberals are coming, the Liberals are coming! They gonna be paying women the same us us holy white men, they gonna treat blacks like they were us holy white men!"(ahem, the entire CSA/Slave states/Red States/bible belt said this in the 50s'70 when the northern dems were trying to make it legal for blacks to vote, not be lynched for eating at a "white" resturant, so forth) how is it racist? These people, like AC, believe liberals are the anti-christ and will eat their babies so they should all, in AC words, be nuked. Nuke anyone who doesn't bow down before Bush.

Sad, the slaves states always vote republican, funny isn't it?


ahh...Funny, being a die hard republican, I don't recal my complaints that we holy "white" men are going to have to be paid the same, that those blacks are going to get the same rights as us blacks...er, sorry, holy "white" men...

Ann Coulter is the conservative version of Michael Moore -- extreme. They're both popular because they're so controversial and have their heads up their...Well, anyway.

Fox News: We Report, You Decide.

True? Yep. They report, and we all do decide. Fair and balance? Nope. Is fox the only one, tho?

"Always Coca Cola" - Coca Cola
No it's not. When I have a Pepsi, because I went to Taco Bell, it's not Coca Cola. Lie.

"I'M LOVIN' IT!" - McDonalds
3 words: No, I'm not.

"The world's local bank" - HSBC
So then what, because I'm not using their bank, I'm not in this world?

"Perfect to you" - Wella
Sorry, Wella, not to me it ain't

"You can't resist the twist!" - Twister
I have and I'll continue to

Obviosuly, slogans have been misleading in the past, too. It's odd, it seems almost as though they are used in such a way as to grab someone's attention, not convey the truth of the product. But then, what do I know? I watch Fox News...



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by James the Lesser
Like how when Rove was younger he joined a Dem. team to steal the letterheads of the dem office and sent out invitations to a "Free drugs, free women, free alchohol" party. Or when he was caught teaching other Republicans Nixon style tactics, and then hired by Bush 41. Or when he "found" a bug in his opffice, the FBI investigated and found he planted the bug to make the dem candidate look bad.



Wow all this is news to me. Got any sources for all that?



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by Hlodde
Hey were getting a bit closer in our debate. A couple quick tidbits. I was never a "fan" of the show. That would imply fanatic. Bill was entertaining as a Dateline or 60 min's show would be.

Also I doubt that Bill follows any instructions from the Right. He differs on his opinions a lot from the Republican platform. (ie his judge bashing, some social programs, etc.) I believe he is too full of himself to be dictated to.

I do think Fox news probably gets talking points from the Republican party as does CBS from the Democrat party.

I had a feeling you were a fan, since you were basicly the only one defending Fox. So you find Bill entertaining, like most do? Fox Comedy channel more then News channel? More comedy less news?


I think that Fox News gets much more thatn talking points from the Republican part; Fox seems to me more a speakbox of the Republican party, a pure and utter pro-patriot, pro-american, pro-republican, pro-war, anti-liberal tv station. Now that does not sound too objective to me for a NEWS station.

Yes, sure Democratic party has their own money in CBS and other liberal networks, but I think that Fox has much bigger and much scarier background story than any other networks. But thats just my opinion.







 
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