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Michael Schiavo - Sworn Affidavit by RN Ciyer

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posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 11:19 AM
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Breaking News : From CNN





Florida judge denies petition by the state and Gov. Jeb Bush to take custody of Terri Schiavo. Details soon.




posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 11:35 AM
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Thanks elevatedone, now they are reviewing an affidavit of a doctor that "believes" that she is not in a vegetable state.

And also the charges of husband abuse, but that will probably would not stay, I think they are doing it because the doctor.

Now lets take in consideration that the so called expert is under bush favor, is a pro-life supporter and has never checked the woman himself.

The family wants the governor to go over the judge and take her out of the hospital but that would bring a constitutional crisis in the state.

I think this are dangerous moments people.



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 11:36 AM
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All I know is I would do what my wife wanted me to.. thats it. No one on this earth has any business judging Mike Schiavo. This is what she wanted people! Screw what everyone else says did she say she didn't want to live on a machine, I think she did. Some say she can get better, well the same amount of doctors say she can't. I think it would be much more cruel to not respect her wishes and make her stay alive.



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 11:39 AM
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The pro life people can only win if they put the tube back in, rehab her, and show her before the world as a living thinking being. The pro death people need only wait for her to starve and die.

Pro life has no chance on this...

I just wish they would have pushed her out before the cameras a few weeks ago. Might have been easier to make a decision if I'd seen her with my own eyes (the balloon video really really bothers me, though).

I'd only wished they'd shot her up with too much morphine on Friday, and not let starvation slowly begin.

If we were wrong, the blood is on our hands...



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 11:46 AM
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Actually, she is being treated with pain medication...
Also, considering the damage to her cerebral cortex, and hence, nervous system, she may not feel pain anyhow, at least that's all we can hope.
If euthanasia was legal for humans, wouldn't be an issue right now, and she wouldn't still be suffering like this. (and even if you couldn't feel pain, being trapped in your body for 15 years is suffering in my book).



Pro life has no chance on this...


If only that were so. About the last chance I see is an Executive Order from the President. To me (and I think most Americans), that would be a gross overstepping of bounds, and a flagrant abuse of power to interfere into the rights of the individual. But, seeing as how the Bushes have already shown a willingness to break the law for this (see the aforementioned link to DCF's attempted siezing of Terri), I wouldn't put it past him at this point.



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 11:51 AM
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Soulforge, I hear ya starving would suck but how would her blood be on anyones hands regardless if she wanted to die?



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
Actually But, seeing as how the Bushes have already shown a willingness to break the law for this (see the aforementioned link to DCF's attempted siezing of Terri), I wouldn't put it past him at this point.


I pray he does and then take down the judiciary just as "past" precident have. A judge is not a "god" and they can be taken down. Congress can and should take them out, back to Article III. "Good behavior" the lack there of..........



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid

I pray he does and then take down the judiciary just as "past" precident have. A judge is not a "god" and they can be taken down. Congress can and should take them out, back to Article III. "Good behavior" the lack there of..........


Well Dr. Horacid you and God should go down to Florida and take over her destiny after all God is the one that had the last say, Bush is not God either.



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043

Originally posted by DrHoracid

I pray he does and then take down the judiciary just as "past" precident have. A judge is not a "god" and they can be taken down. Congress can and should take them out, back to Article III. "Good behavior" the lack there of..........


Well Dr. Horacid you and God should go down to Florida and take over her destiny after all God is the one that had the last say, Bush is not God either.


Already here darling. You are too late, the marines have landed, in force.



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Kramthenothing
Soulforge, I hear ya starving would suck but how would her blood be on anyones hands regardless if she wanted to die?


Frankly, I think If you starve anyone willingly you have blood on your hands, if they wanted it or not.

I am NOT for euthaniasia without consent.

I AM for euthanaisia WITH consent. It's YOUR life, YOUR god, etc.

But I will NEVER be for starvation, no many how many doctors you bring out telling me it's painless. I've dealt with doctors, and they are human, and fallible.

When a cow went down on our farm when I was young, with a broken back or such, we didn't let it die peacefully and with dignity through starvation. W euthanized it for its own sake.

There is something cold and inhuman about starvation.



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:08 PM
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I am going to give you my views on this,

Yes, this is a sad case, but where is the humanity in letting someone starve to death? this is not about religion or politics, this is about basic human rights. She is being stripped on her rights as a human being. If your going to let her die, dont make her go through more pain/



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:10 PM
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Marg: I never thought I would agree with DrHoracid but I do. as for you I am rather surprised that your posts haven't been transferred to PATS, because they are highly politicized.

For some of us its about human rights, Terri's human rights. Its about depriving a woman of all sustenance. Can someone please show me how they are advancing her "quality of life" by starving her to death? If Michael had the slightest integrity and he felt so strongly about it he would have petitioned the court to have an overdose of some type or another. It is 6 days that this human being has been without food or water and you want to make it about politics. There but for fortune go you and I.

I pray for Terri and trust that the creator will stand by her.



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:14 PM
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This is about humanity and there is none in this case. You are letting someone starve to death, this is what the Nazis done to the jews when they left the camps, want to be like Nazis?



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:20 PM
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I pray he does and then take down the judiciary just as "past" precident have. A judge is not a "god" and they can be taken down. Congress can and should take them out, back to Article III. "Good behavior" the lack there of..........


I'll agree. But we aren't talking about A judge here.

We're talking about NUMEROUS judges, in NUMEROUS appeals and hearings, all the way up to the highest court in the land!
Due process has occurred more with this case than with any in recent memory!!! Short of appealing to the almighty himself, it's been done folks... Oh, wait a minute, since Bush has such a direct line to him, I suppose this is their next step?



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by infinite
This is about humanity and there is none in this case. You are letting someone starve to death,


But does she know she is being starved?



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by SpittinCobra
But does she know she is being starved?


Her body will know is being starved,
she will know.



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
I pray he does and then take down the judiciary just as "past" precident have. A judge is not a "god" and they can be taken down. Congress can and should take them out, back to Article III. "Good behavior" the lack there of..........


So what you're saying is that if we don't agree with the checks and balances system we can merely dispose of it? How do you define good behavior? Following your beliefs and screwing mine?



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:28 PM
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How do you know she isn't going..."about damned time! let me outta here!"

I know if I was trapped in my body for 15 years, that's what I'd be saying....



So what you're saying is that if we don't agree with the checks and balances system we can merely dispose of it? How do you define good behavior? Following your beliefs and screwing mine?


Seems to be exactly what the good Dr. is saying...


[edit on 24-3-2005 by Gazrok]



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
How do you know she isn't going..."about damned time! let me outta here!"

I know if I was trapped in my body for 15 years, that's what I'd be saying....


Yeah, but she doesn want to be starved to death. If she wanted to die, i think she wants it to be quick and painless...



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
How do you know she isn't going..."about damned time! let me outta here!"

I know if I was trapped in my body for 15 years, that's what I'd be saying....


try reading the affidavits of the nurses that took care of her. She is aware. She has been abused for years by dear hubby. There is much evidence. this is the darkest day in american history.............right after 1973.




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