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How many people in Africa are infected with HIV?

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posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 04:49 AM
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Above is a picture of a cell forming HIV.


"Sub-Saharan Africa is the region of the world that is most affected by HIV & AIDS. An estimated 25.4 million people are living with HIV and approximately 3.1 million new infections occurred in 2004. In just the past year the epidemic has claimed the lives of an estimated 2.3 million people in this region. Around 2 million children under 15 are living with HIV and more than twelve million children have been orphaned by AIDS."

www.avert.org...

A mass die-off is about to occurr in Africa in the next 10 years. Millions of orphans already exist. What is the UN and WHO going to do about it. The policies of the last 10-15 years have failed.




posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 04:51 AM
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What ideas do you have for a solution? It is a massive problem.



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid


Above is a picture of a cell forming HIV.


"Sub-Saharan Africa is the region of the world that is most affected by HIV & AIDS. An estimated 25.4 million people are living with HIV and approximately 3.1 million new infections occurred in 2004. In just the past year the epidemic has claimed the lives of an estimated 2.3 million people in this region. Around 2 million children under 15 are living with HIV and more than twelve million children have been orphaned by AIDS."

www.avert.org...

A mass die-off is about to occurr in Africa in the next 10 years. Millions of orphans already exist. What is the UN and WHO going to do about it. The policies of the last 10-15 years have failed.


I heard the horrid news that one in five people has Aids in Africa....

What can be done????

That means that this awful disease has touched everyone in Africa, everyone has lost someone they know and love....

NeoN.



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 05:15 AM
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some in africa are immune to AIDS and HIV. but we just can't find out y and how they are immune.



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 12:49 PM
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There is a sure fire way to stop any virus in it's tracks but it's so politically incorrect that it would never be considered in this case. You have to remove the mechanism of transmission which means removing the infected hosts....


Voluntary transmission blockers do not work and pending a cure or vaccine, the only 100% effective way is culling the herd so to speak....

BTW - before anyone screams, this is a purely objective, scientific fact and I in no way condone it....



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 12:58 PM
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Here is a little more info on the numbers associated with aids. Countries with the highest rates of poverty are hit the hardest ensuring that their country will remain in poverty since the hardest hit are usually the most productive in society. This is some truly scary stuff and makes me gratefull that I live in a rich country.


DURBAN - The South African Aids conference in Durban on Monday provided a gloomy insight into a country drowning under high HIV infections -- and easy solutions that many claim are being ignored by government.

It was revealed that of the 14,000 new HIV infections worldwide each day, 6000 were in people aged 15 to 24 -- and 2000 in children younger than 15.

South Africa has 600 new infections each day.


[edit on 23-3-2005 by cryptorsa1001]



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 01:17 PM
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Indian patent law 'will signal end of cheap HIV drugs'



Controversial legislation approved by the lower house of India's parliament yesterday (22 march) could drastically increase the cost of cheap HIV drugs and other medicines the country produces, according to international humanitarian organisations.

The law threatens to affect the provision of healthcare to hundreds of thousands of patients, many of them in Africa, for whom low-cost Indian drugs are the only affordable means of treating AIDS.However, large pharmaceutical companies are welcoming the law, as it will protect products they have spent millions of dollars on during research and development.The new patents bill is intended to bring India's patent regime into line with the World Trade Organization's (WTO) agreement on Trade Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (known as TRIPS), one of the conditions of India's membership of the WTO.
The previous Indian Patents Act (1970) recognised patents on pharmaceutical processes but not on pharmaceutical products, allowing domestic pharmaceutical companies to produce cheap copies of patented drugs made by foreign companies using alternative production methods.

But as India emerged as one of the world's leading suppliers of these 'generic' medicines, multinational companies complained that the trade in generic drugs was losing them an estimated US$500 million every year.


Lets make sure we protect profits before we protect humanity. Greedy corporations have killed more people through disease and poverty than all of the deaths due to warfare combined.



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 01:58 PM
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I don't work for WHO or any other company .. but I know that Africa recieves money for the number of victims of HIV and AIDS...
It would be under my impression that PERHAPS ... not as many people are infected as noted... I'm just going off of human nature and thinking that if you can get money for someone because they're sick... it'd be the best possible idead to "make" them as sick as possible..

i.e. Africa won't get money for "billy" if he only has diarehha (sp)
but if "billy" has HIV and diarehha, then boom, heres $1,000 type of thing..

A lot of the death and disease would most likely have to do with poor living conditions... we have poor living conditions all over the world.. Why is Africa the hot spot? ... it is interesting ... who were the last people enslaved? .. who were all those white people afraid of? ... I just saying, things look different than they are portrayed..

[edit on 23/3/05 by dnero6911]



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 02:41 PM
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You raised a couple of interesting points. It is hard for the average guy to really know what is going on 5,000 miles away. The numbers may well be bloated but I still believe that it is a crisis in parts of Africa due to aids.



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 03:45 PM
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Yup - and please remember the drugs being used do nothing to stop the spread, only prolong the life of the infected carrier - and by strict definition would not be considered a "cure"....



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 05:05 PM
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Thats true, also HIV isn't always going to develope into AIDS either... It's really an old virus.. it's nothing new.

The problem is the same problem as heavy recreational drug use... it leads to inactivity which will kill you itself.... the poor living conditions are the main factor here, we don't want to muck it up with diseases.. the conditions breed these diseases... so it isn't really a crisis... the crisis is unstable populations without the proper means to take care.. i.e. shelter and food #1.... second is the medicines and vitamins given to us daily in our foods... and the water condition (although one could argue due to fluoride here) but still ... the idea really was to scare people away from making babies here at home, so we don't have the same problems.... not to mention making millions off of condoms too... but those are just jobs..
really the problem in the rest of the world is they don't have the same luxuries we're born with... they don't have the choices we do.. they live extremely sheltered lives experience to them is maybe eating today something different than yesterday... I think we should all really think about the decisions we are allowed to make versus the ones made for other people by our "leaders" who like keeping the wealth "over here" instead of "everywhere" I don't know about you, but I'm not THAT greedy... I wouldn't mind sharing some of my choices with others.



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 05:38 PM
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The money that US donate for the problem of HIV globally has been cut in the last 4 years, also is a twist the medicines has to be from American pharmaceuticals.

Want to know what happend to the money that US send to help the African nations?

They come back to the American companies and to other rich countries banks.



The result: Of the $15 billion of PEPFAR funds, African governments will be lucky to see $3 billion to $4 billion over five years. At the same time they will be paying $75 billion back to rich countries in debt repayments. The money that is being paid back is "real" money -- money that can be spent on local people and institutions.


seattlepi.nwsource.com...



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 06:58 PM
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a better question is how many people here in the usa are infected and what are we doing to prevent the spread here at home?

yes the numbers may look small here however the problem is bigger then it looks just because they look smaller then other places we still have a lot of ignorance of the disease not to mention those who arnt counted because many who are infected havent been tested.

but hey its allways easier to look at someone elses problems then our own isnt it.



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 07:28 PM
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Why do you think aids is so pervasive in africa, it's poor right! no, there are other poor countries that have less of an aids problem. it's because of racism right! no, HIV is not a bio-weapon and it's origins can be traced to starting in africa. Well, then it's evil whitey's fault because we have money and drugs and we dont 'give' it to them! Wrong again, most of the aid is from U.S. and Europe. Then what is it? boiled down simply it's BEHAVORIAL, some say this is going to be a racial statement but it's not, it's just the truth. They have sex with each other, even animals on a regulary basis. they eat 'primates' the closest living relative to humans. what is Mad cow disease? a disease you get by eating your own species or close living relatives. Thats why in new guinea they have huge problems with mad-cow or cjb, i think is what they call it in humans. Teaching them not to behave like the animals they live with would be a start.



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 07:22 PM
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Of course everyone has their opinion, based in part on the information they receive and believe...

I think you are wrong about "behaviour".

I think HIV and AIDS are a bioweapon designed to eliminate
"unwanted" populations.

I think some others ,perhaps in some of the other "conspiracy"
forums would agree with me...ya...



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 08:03 PM
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Dont tell me that the US or some other country created AIDs and HIV as a bio weapon thats just plain bs. I agree with CGB, in New Guinea its a custom for them to eat the brains of the recently deceased. Now im not trying to be racist but I think if they want to get rid of their problems with mad cow/cjb, then maybe they should change their customs a bit and not eat eachother's brains.

[edit on 24-3-2005 by wiergraf]



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 10:03 PM
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Yah...and perhaps you thing Chairman Mao still runs China too...



posted on Mar, 25 2005 @ 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by wiergraf
Dont tell me that the US or some other country created AIDs and HIV as a bio weapon thats just plain bs. I agree with CGB, in New Guinea its a custom for them to eat the brains of the recently deceased. Now im not trying to be racist but I think if they want to get rid of their problems with mad cow/cjb, then maybe they should change their customs a bit and not eat eachother's brains.

[edit on 24-3-2005 by wiergraf]


Actually HIV is a bi-product of polo research that used scores of chimps to "refine" the vaccine. The blood used to 'grow" the vaccine was taken from hundreds of live chimps. The "culture" medium was chimp kidney tissue. The work was done in "Stanleyville" in the 50's...........



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 05:59 PM
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I wii agree that this is one "theory"...



posted on Apr, 10 2005 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by Kriz_4
What ideas do you have for a solution? It is a massive problem.

Well, they have tried various solutions. They have even parachuted crates of condoms all over africa and because many places have a high number of uneducated people they even provided picture pamplets showing how to put a condom on. I think education is the key but unfortunately I think it may already be too late to really fix this problem. I think the only solution is going to be finding a cure for AIDS. AIDS is the present day bubonic plague, just takes longer to kill of it's victims.



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