posted on Mar, 22 2005 @ 06:05 AM
(Yes, I know there are many Schiavo discussions, but none seem to capture most of the elements that are needed in them.)
Conservatives, get a grip...after all, I thought you were the ones who were all for less FEDERAL REGULATION.
First and foremost, this debate is about the LAW. And, sadly, the law is on the side of Michael Schiavo. The law states that the husband has the
rights to Terri's care, or lack thereof. If there are no wills...you know, legally binding contracts stating otherwise, then he is the guardian.
The parents have ZERO choice in this.
I applaud the effort of this man to stand up against the government and send a big "F you". He is the person in control, whether you like it or
not. And it is absolutely wrong for the Federal Government to step in and intervene. It sets tons of horrible precedents. And if you are applauding
them, then you are encouraging the next line of rights to be removed from your hands.
And besides you, as well as I, do not care for this woman. You can stick around here and lie, but you know you don't. It is some type of obvious
agenda fetish you have. I at least don't lie about my intentions. I would love to see our current laws upheld and for Michael Schiavo to sue
everyone who stymied his rights as the husband. There should be an inquiry into the rights violated and punish those who offended them. And I
denounce all of you agenda monkeys who are blatantly disregarding the legal ramifications of this issue. (Including anybody on any side.)
You need to butt out and accept that this woman will die. Do you know why? Because any court in any country in any friggin' universe will uphold
the initial findings of every court before this. And, if not, the judge needs to be seriously examined and perhaps dismissed. Because obviously, he
cannot do all within him to uphold one of the most defined laws in our country.
Secondly, yes this is torture. Starving someone to death is not only cruel, but is also unusual. This is hell being put on this woman's body. But,
it is the only option that many conservatives have left us. The "life and life alone" movement has time and time again shot down active euthanasia.
Yes, this is your side's fault. Why do ya' think Kevorkian is out of a job? BECAUSE OF YOU! Your ideals and standards are horrendous...but the
other side is not that much better. In stead of trying to push forward the agenda of active euthanasia, they have left only one other alternative.
They allowed it...and you guys pushed it. Now sleep in the mess you have made. (And please, noone respond with "Well, Hitler "euthanized" the
Jews." That is false. Genocide is what he committed. There was no "mercy" in those murders.)
Thirdly, to those who are conspiracy theorizing this, you are barking up the wrong tree. Why did it take eight years for alleged abuse to come out
about this guy? Why did it take years for her friends to come out and say she wanted to live? What money is left for this guy to take? Why did the
doctors never cooperate with the police and have an investigation? Why is this guy so adamant about Terri dying and the parents terribly against it?
He could have easily walked away a long time ago and taken half of the money there. Why did this guy refuse the one million dollars to walk away?
Why did he refuse a "reported" ten million dollar offer?
Do you think maybe for one second he is actually doing what she wanted him to do so? Everyone is right. A lot of things do not add up. If this were
for money, why didn't he take the offered money? After all, that money is quite a bit more than the expected 40-50 thousand dollars that is left
from the settlement. Hell, a guy can get out of the country and hide with that type of money if dubious things happened between him and Terri. Hell,
with that money, he could get away with murder...attempted murder. But he is not taking it...why do you suppose that?
Also, if a doctor suspects abuse, he is obligated to alert the authorities. Do you think doctors would put their careers on the line to fall in with
the KILL TERRI conspirators? Not likely, my friends. There is a good chance that the doctors actually thought the warning signs, that are so
apparent to the right, were consistant with the believed cause of the heart trouble and bone fractures.
Why is that the "Terri wanted to live" claims and the abuse claims come many years after the problem that occured? Perhaps they are complete
fabrications...maybe? Hell, the abuse one should have come out immediatley after she went into the state she is in. But it didn't. It came out, I
believe, six or seven years after the problems. What was going on at that time? Could it be during a fierce legal struggle between the husband and
the family? Oh...well...isn't that convenient. Could it be possible that this is some concocted story to help give the parents control? Nah...no
one would stoop that low, would they?
There are way too many things that do not make sense about these claims that are out there. We can all sit around and conspiracy theorize this
issue...all sides of it. But nothing is going to come of it.
Now, onto the actual part of the flimsy debate that the right tries to daze everybody with while they quietly take away rights. Yes, this person is
alive. Her heart beats. I believe her excretory system works. She eats...she craps...her cells reproduce...and her hair grows. By all definitions,
she is alive. But, is she mentally alive. Many people claim they see it when they look at the videos. Hell, I even almost saw it. But do you know
why that is? Because:
1. Your heart and mind wants you to see it...see subconciously.
2. The videos are only a couple of seconds long and shows what the family wants you to see.
I believe that one of the two or a combination of both are true. I know the first one is true for everybody...even the family. Maybe they caught an
odd glimpse of what she used to be and actually saw a living person. It happens. I'm sure we have all witnessed a family member slowly die.
(Cancer, AIDS, etc.) Some days, you may see them as improving. Even though all of the tests say nothing but the negative. You may just see
improvement. And I believe that is the cause of this hype of her being alive inside her brain.
The second option is just a downright dirty thing to do. But, it is a fair option. Heavy editing to push an agenda is not an uncommon practice.
(See Michael Moore.) I am pretty sure, somewhere in the hours of film you can find one scene where it doesn't look like she is just staring at the
ceiling. Finding one scene where her head just tilts right so it looks like she is looking at someone and the ceiling is not impossible. Hell, one
of the biggest propaganda photos I have ever seen was the one with the mother kissing her and Terri's eyes are closed. But, I have seen the video
and know that she was blinking. And this photo is designed to invoke the thought that Terri is enjoying the warm embrace of a loved one.
Now, after all of that, I believe this is the wrong approach to this situation. I despise the removal of her tube. Why? Because, like I said, it is
torture. No one can argue against the fact that it is torture. But, we have no current system to allow a peaceful death of a person like this. We
have no other option but to allow it. For one, it is against the law to intervene. The husband does have the rights here. And two, it has not been
sufficiently proven that he has violated any of her rights.
Where can we go from here? I am hoping that the courts strike down these motions. They are unjust and violate the law prescribed. Then, hopefully
the judges will speak out against those who are fighting this cause through illegal means. After all, neither the Congress nor the President has the
grounds to do this. I am not saying any major motions against them...maybe at worst censure. But, we need to have the line drawn where our
government can and cannot step in and override the rights of the people. Next, I really wish that this torture can result in good reform of
euthanasia laws. Passive euthanasia is horrible. We are seeing it in the form of torture in the Schiavo case. People need to push for active
euthanasia laws. Thirdly, I hope that everyone involved can finally move on from this point. We all know the outcome of this. It is as plain as
day. Maybe the family can finally accept the fact their daughter will die and Michael Schiavo can continue his life with his new family.
EDIT: (Sorry, had to posts...weather is getting rough here.)
And finally, perhaps this will jump start America into writing their wills at earlier ages and make sure their wishes will be recognized should they
become incapacitated. It is sad that this had to result from such an awful case, but I hope we can truly learn from all of the mistakes made.
Perhaps, this type of thing will never happen again.
[edit on 3/22/2005 by OXmanK]