Is demanding that U.S. Citizens Confirm they Are Eligible To Vote Truly Racist?

The craziest part is that more people than ever before supposedly voted in 2020. EVER.

There should be a national voter registry tied to your SSN. One vote. One match. All good. It is 2020 there is no one in the US who does not have an ID unless they do not want an ID.

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HR 4

“In the next six months, as you did before, by August 6, we want to have on President Biden’s desk a new voting rights act in order — named after John Lewis — to restore the efficacy of the 1965 Voting Rights Act,” he added. “I think we can do it.”

The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was signed into law by then-President Lyndon B. Johnson on August 6 — 56 years to the day Clyburn vowed the new act would be signed into law.

and by Executive Order....Biden blames the Insurrection on needing better voting laws and protections.

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“Every eligible voter should be able to vote and have that vote counted,” he said. “If you have the best ideas, you have nothing to hide. Let the people vote.”

The Progressives are not even trying to hide the agenda anymore.

I always ask people how is it racist to want voter ID? They tell me it's because they are trying to suppress the Black and Hispanic voters.

It blows my mind how the ones who claim racism are actually the racists. Or....they're ignorant. Either way, assuming Only Black and Hispanic people don't have ID's is worthy of a few SMH's

a reply to: matafuchs

There should be a national voter registry tied to your SSN. One vote. One match. All good.

I agree, and with registration, one should receive a national photo ID card.

and by Executive Order....Biden blames the Insurrection on needing better voting laws and protections.

He's not wrong. I thought it well understood that the January 6th event was an extension of the "Stop the Steal" campaign. The Capitol rioters were upset because they believe the election was wrought with fraud. Given this campaign, Republicans and Democrats both have proposed new voting laws to address election integrity.



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This’ll be good.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

a reply to: matafuchs

A National ID registry would mean that the Feds would be in charge of our elections. That is what democrats want so they can more easily control the results of our elections.

A lot of people forget that the Obama/Biden administration tried to get control of our elections by claiming "the Russians hacked the elections in 20-21 states back in 2016..." But when the states themselves investigated they ALL found out that the hacks had come from Obama's DHS.

This false flag was done by the Obama/Biden administration to make our elections a "critical infrastructure" which would have made our elections controlled by the Feds through the DHS...

DHS official: Election systems in 21 states were targeted in Russia cyber attacks

US designates election infrastructure as ‘critical’

However, according to left-wing source "Mother Jones" the hack occurred in 20 states, and not 21.

The Voting Records in 20 States May Have Been Hacked. But What Does That Mean?

If the states supposedly "hacked by the Russians" hadn't decided to check themselves whom actually did the hack, this false flag would have succeeded.

Then each state decided to check for themselves, because one state that was claimed by Obama's DHS that it had been hacked by the Russians realized the hack was actually from Obama's DHS.

Indiana joins Idaho in claiming DHS tried to hack their election systems

Homeland Security tied to attempted hack of Georgia’s election database: Report

More and more states, 20 in total, found out in the end that the hack had come from Obama's DHS.

In fact, even the Israelis found this out...

Moscow did not "hack the US elections"
A letter to Americans. There is a long record of Obama's Intelligence Community lying to Congress to advance Obama's political agenda. And the current agenda is to undermine Trump.

As a matter of fact, even Obama, and other state officials claimed that our elections could not be hacked, or influenced because...it is decentralized...

No, the presidential election can’t be hacked

By Tal Kopan, CNN
Updated 4:29 PM EDT, Wed October 19, 2016
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1. Why is it unlikely the presidential election can be swayed by a hack?

The American election system is decentralized by design, with state, county and local governments all managing voting. Even though many precincts use voting machines, none are connected to the Internet, nor are they connected to each other.
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No, the presidential election can’t be hacked

Anyway, to add even more proof that the DHS is still trying to control our elections here is an article from 2020.

DHS plans largest operation to secure U.S. election against hacking

Joseph Marks 10/30/2020


The Department of Homeland Security’s cybersecurity division is mounting the largest operation to secure a U.S. election, aiming to prevent a repeat of Russia’s 2016 interference and to ward off new threats posed by Iran and China.
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DHS plans largest operation to secure U.S. election against hacking

BTW, Obama's DHS at one point also even claimed all 50 state's elections had been hacked...without presenting any proof of such a claim...

DHS, FBI say election systems in all 50 states were targeted in 2016

Sean Gallagher - 4/10/2019, 12:20 PM


A joint intelligence bulletin (JIB) has been issued by the Department of Homeland Security and Federal Bureau of Investigation to state and local authorities regarding Russian hacking activities during the 2016 presidential election. While the bulletin contains no new technical information, it is the first official report to confirm that the Russian reconnaissance and hacking efforts in advance of the election went well beyond the 21 states confirmed in previous reports.
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DHS, FBI say election systems in all 50 states were targeted in 2016

A decentralized election, as it has been since the inception of our country, is more secure and transparent as hackers, including Obama's stooges, would have to hack each state, local, and county election systems. This is the major reason why the Obama/Biden administrations have wanted total control over our elections by claiming it would be more secured if it was controlled by the Feds, which is a lie.

BTW, for all intents and purposes we are on the THIRD term of Obama. Biden is not in control, and neither is Harris... Those of you paying attention know that the Biden/Harris administration hired most of Obama's officials, with some new Obama loyalists to make it look like a different administration is in charge, but they are all continuing "Obama's agenda."

A national id is democrats/socialists/communists' wet dream, as it would make the Feds, probably through the DHS, in charge of our elections taking away the rights of each state to decide election rules and laws...

BTW, to the idiots out there whom would claim "he must be a MOSAD agent"... Which would be some of the same idiots whom in the past have claimed "he must be a CIA agent because he is telling the truth about Cuba." I have NEVER worked for any intelligence agencies.

In the NAVY I could have chosen an intelligence rating, or any other because my ASVAB score was very high. But because I still have, and had, family in Cuba I could not choose a rating in intelligence. Unless I had some inside contacts which I never had... So, instead I chose AWO as my rating. So anyway... I never worked, and i don't work for ANY intelligence agency.

It's not racist. Just another 'ist' or 'ism' to throw at people who dont agree with them.. they need illegal voters othwrwise how would they win?..

Hence all the new illegal voters at boarder control about to pour in for the next election

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

He's not wrong. I thought it well understood that the January 6th event was an extension of the "Stop the Steal" campaign. The Capitol rioters were upset because they believe the election was wrought with fraud. Given this campaign, Republicans and Democrats both have proposed new voting laws to address election integrity.

Sometimes I am not sure if you are that much of a fool, or if you are a troll. The U.S. Constitution and each state's Constitution, states that ONLY THE LEGISLATURE of each state can make changes to election laws. Congress is also able to change election laws, but not to take away the right of each state to decide themselves election laws and rules...

Yes, the 2020 election was really stolen. This has been part of the reason why your far left leaders lied to you, and you all/leftists/never-Trumpers seem to like it.

They claimed the "Russians got Trump in office" which was a lie.
They claimed they had 100% proof Trump and his campaign advisors had colluded with the Russians... It was all a lie to shift the focus of Americans away from Hillary's email scandal...
Your far left leaders went so far as to lie about the conversation that President Trump had with the Ukrainian president... Your lying bag of Schiff even wrote himself a completely fabricated conversation and you leftists/never-Trumpers ate it lie it was cake... Despite the fact that we had the transcript, and despite the fact that the Ukrainian President and other authorities of Ukraine stated President Trump NEVER pressured them into anything...
You even heard straight from your deranged, CCP loving, open border ahole, and senile Biden that he did use quid pro quo and demanded the previous Ukrainian administration to fire the prosecutor that was investigating Hunter Biden's link and involvement in the corrupt Burisma holdings company. You even heard him say "fire him or I'll not give you the $1 billion... Yet you leftists-never-Trumpers instead shifted the blame on President Trump, when he never used quid pro quo like your CCP loving, senile and forgetful Biden has done...

You have even seen not just Hunter Biden's name in documents in which they made deals with CCP CEOs... You even saw Biden's brother's letter stating the family, the Bidens, all were involved in getting 10 million U.S.D. from China for "introductions" EVERY YEAR. Which means Biden was introducing CCP spies to who knows whom in the U.S. and around the world.

Yet despite it all and the fact that Biden couldn't even remember most of the times where he was, and kept forgetting what he was talking about 10 seconds before. You actually believe 80 million Americans voted for him... Despite the fact that evidence has been shown to you all, never-Trumpers in ATS, that there were not just election irregularities but several states, 5-6, decided to break the law and instead of asking the legislature to make changes to election laws, the changes were illegally made by a judge, and other officials whom had no power to make those changes...

Now your senile, CCP loving, Obama stooge Biden, and most democrats, want to make these ILLEGAL changes legal, and for all states to lose their rights on elections. So that instead of each state being able to decide themselves, only the Feds (democrats) would make changes to election laws... And despite it all you are still stupid enough to think this is being done to stop voter fraud, or voter suppression?... Your democrat ahole leaders are the ones suppressing voters and want to inundate the U.S. with illegals from Mexico, Central, and South America, whom are all escaping SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM but they are dumb enough to keep on voting left-wing...

a reply to: tonycodes

IDs would make sure every vote is matched and make the election easier to protect

ID's are ALREADY MATCHED. 34 states have Polling Day ID requirements of one kind or another, and the others match signatures. And all opposing parties are scrupulous in checking for invalid voters, especially in close elections. When recounts happen you can bet your life all candidates are examining every voter in the polling lists for errors. It bears repeating: THIS ALREADY HAPPENS - EVERYWHERE.

You are placing an additional burden on voting - placing an insurmountable obstacle on a class of voters is itself fraud on a much grander scale than one or two dead folks voting. You want to block 10 million LEGAL voters because of 2 graveyard voters? 10 million people vs. 2 people. A billions dollars to implement to stop 2 dead people voting? Really?

Why are we risking the whole election over 3% more votes?

That is rich.

In person fraud is less than 0.0000013%: approximatly 1300 cases of in person fraud over the last 30 years out of at least 10 Billion votes cast.

Suppressing those 10 million LEGAL voters is risking the election a heck of a lot more than the 3 fraudulent votes cast in this last election. (one guy illegally cast his mother's absentee ballot, and two dead voters cast a ballot - and all three were Trump votes).

Why do you want to denying 10 million LEGAL voters over 0.0000013% fewer votes?

originally posted by: rnaa
a reply to: tonycodes

IDs would make sure every vote is matched and make the election easier to protect

ID's are ALREADY MATCHED. 34 states have Polling Day ID requirements of one kind or another, and the others match signatures. And all opposing parties are scrupulous in checking for invalid voters, especially in close elections. When recounts happen you can bet your life all candidates are examining every voter in the polling lists for errors. It bears repeating: THIS ALREADY HAPPENS - EVERYWHERE.

You are placing an additional burden on voting - placing an insurmountable obstacle on a class of voters is itself fraud on a much grander scale than one or two dead folks voting. You want to block 10 million LEGAL voters because of 2 graveyard voters? 10 million people vs. 2 people. A billions dollars to implement to stop 2 dead people voting? Really?

Why are we risking the whole election over 3% more votes?

That is rich.

In person fraud is less than 0.0000013%: approximatly 1300 cases of in person fraud over the last 30 years out of at least 10 Billion votes cast.

Suppressing those 10 million LEGAL voters is risking the election a heck of a lot more than the 3 fraudulent votes cast in this last election. (one guy illegally cast his mother's absentee ballot, and two dead voters cast a ballot - and all three were Trump votes).

Why do you want to denying 10 million LEGAL voters over 0.0000013% fewer votes?

Realistically you only need ID's and fraud protection in maybe 30 counties, where most of the votes come from.

Ironically, places like California don't require valid ID to vote. Imagine that. You don't have to in Illinois either. Wow. Crazy. How about New York? Wow, don't need ID to vote there either.

It's almost as if the areas that generate Democrat votes all don't require ID. Wonder why that is. Is it because Democrats believe minorities aren't smart enough or capable to even obtain an ID? The same ID that would be required to by smokes, alcohol, drive a car, and hundreds of other activities?

a reply to: jjkenobi

Ironically, places like California don't require valid ID to vote.

But, they do require ID to register to vote, and they make you sign the voter polls registry, or your mail in ballot envelope, and they check to see that the signatures match, when we do vote.

a reply to: rnaa

There is no voter suppression. Anywhere. If you want to vote go vote. If anyone tells you they cannot vote they are either lazy or bull#ting you.

34 states is 16 shy of all of them. That is about a 1/3 of the states in the US that do not verify. I have said it before and it is very easy. SSN. One vote. Have it checked against a database of all citizens and if you are not on it you do not vote.

Besides, why are they talking about voter suppression when we were supposed to have more people than EVER vote in 2020. It is all fear mongering BS.

a reply to: matafuchs

34 states is 16 shy of all of them. That is about a 1/3 of the states in the US that do not verify.

That is entirely false.

Those 16 states most certainly DO verify.

You are required to sign the poll book and they verify that your signature matches your registration signature.

You know, States have been running elections for hundreds of years, they pretty much know what they are doing by now. They know that only citizens are allowed to vote, dead people can't vote, and your mother has to vote for herself.

They also know that making millions of voters spend hundreds of dollars to obtain a specific form of ID in order to prevent 1 or 2 invalid votes per election is FALSE ECONOMY and voter suppression.

Besides, why are they talking about voter suppression when we were supposed to have more people than EVER vote in 2020. It is all fear mongering BS.

Because even though the turnout in this election was good (66.3% compared to 60.1% in 2016), it is still the laughing stock of other countries. Voter turnout in the USA should be 80% or more - we are the most advanced democracy on the planet - or at least we like to boast that we are - and 66% turnout is simply pathetic.

We should absolutely be encouraging people to vote - not putting up barriers to discourage them.

a reply to: matafuchs

There is no voter suppression. Anywhere. If you want to vote go vote. If anyone tells you they cannot vote they are either lazy or bull#ting you.

You seem to have no idea about what voter suppression 'looks like'.

Here is an introduction that might help: The Top Five Voter Suppression Tactics

1. Gerrymandering
It helps to win elections if you can pick your voters instead of relying on them picking you. ...This is done through two separate strategies called “packing” and “cracking.” Packing forces more voters into a district that’s likely to be won by the opposing party, freeing up other districts to be more competitive. Cracking breaks up voters into multiple districts, dispersing their influence and watering down the vote for the opposing party.

2. Denying Felons the Right to Vote
It’s estimated that more than 6 million Americans have been disenfranchised by states that deny felons the right to vote. While some states only block voting for felons while they are incarcerated, 11 states take away a felon’s right to vote indefinitely.

Because of the massive inequality in rates of incarceration for minorities, denying felons the right to vote significantly impacts election fairness across the United States.

3. Voter ID Requirements & Intimidation
Currently, 34 states have some sort of voter identification requirements in place with 18 of those states requiring photo identification. Because they typically require a valid driver’s license, military ID or state identification card, these laws disenfranchise poor, urban, elderly and minority voters who are less likely to hold government-issued forms of identification. It’s estimated as many as 11% of the eligible voting population in the United States does not have an acceptable form of identification.

In addition to identification requirements, studies show minorities experience widespread intimidation tactics at the polls. Nearly 10% of Black and Hispanic voters reported they were falsely told they did not have proper identification at the polls compared to less than 5% of white voters. Note: this is in contradiction of your assertion that 'If anyone tells you they cannot vote they are either lazy or bull#ting you.'

4. Undermining Election Security & Disinformation
After evidence emerged that many voting machines were vulnerable and accessible to hackers in the 2016 election, calls to ratchet up election security mounted. Most states have aging machines with flawed software that doesn’t provide a verifiable paper trail. Data suggests disinformation campaigns on social media were also part of active measures by Russia to influence the election and designed to specifically target African American voters.

However, calls for increased election security and social media accountability have gone largely unanswered, leading to speculation that the failure to secure America’s elections from foreign influence is an intentional voter suppression tactic. The Republican-controlled Senate thus far has refused to take up a single bill to address election security or to allocate funding to states to shore up their cybersecurity. The partisan divide was further underscored earlier this year (that is 2020) when GOP senators actively blocked two election security bills Democrats attempted to bring to the floor.

5. Polling Place Closures & Roll Purges
... purges are often conducted in a way that targets minority voters. As many as 17 million voters were purged from the rolls between 2016 and 2018, many of them in states with a long history of voter discrimination.

Closing polling places or restricting voting hours is another time-tested suppression tactic because it concentrates volume in densely populated areas and leads to long waits and frustration. Since the Voting Rights Act was undermined by the Supreme Court in 2013, more than a thousand polling locations, many of them in black southern communities, have closed. In Arizona 1 in 5 polling places have been closed in recent years while in Texas, it’s estimated as many as 1 in 10 polling places have been shuttered.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: matafuchs

There should be a national voter registry tied to your SSN. One vote. One match. All good.

I agree, and with registration, one should receive a national photo ID card.

and by Executive Order....Biden blames the Insurrection on needing better voting laws and protections.

He's not wrong. I thought it well understood that the January 6th event was an extension of the "Stop the Steal" campaign. The Capitol rioters were upset because they believe the election was wrought with fraud. Given this campaign, Republicans and Democrats both have proposed new voting laws to address election integrity.



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Labels are incorrect, often an attempt to tar and feather, group together and dismiss what is perceived as opposition. It did seem to serve a purpose of ended conversation on stop the steal, lest one be handed a dangerous LABEL. Thank you for your valuable post here, highlighting the importance of language here and how it’s used to manipulate.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: jjkenobi

Ironically, places like California don't require valid ID to vote.

But, they do require ID to register to vote, and they make you sign the voter polls registry, or your mail in ballot envelope, and they check to see that the signatures match, when we do vote.

That’s fallible, loaded with opportunity for human error. I’ve deposited checks and had the bank Manager confirm my id because of my penmanship or their poor eyesight, or maybe they didn’t like me. Hard to assign motive, but the opportunity exists for human influence and does not serve as any protection against potential influence.

a reply to: Rob808

Yes its fallible. Nothing is perfect, including demanding photo ID. Just because you have a plastic card with a picture on it what does that prove at the end of the day?. How many under age kids have fake IDs so they can drink?

The only thing a photo ID MIGHT be able to help controll is IN PERSON polling day fraud. How much of that actually occurs? Maybe 2 or 3 per election - across the entire country.

You are trying to make millions of law abiding Americans to spend hundreds of dollars (birth certificates, transportation, etc) to get IDs so they can vote. Most will say screw it and not bother. You are putting up barriers where none should exist.

There are much more widespread fraud scemes going on, schemes that do actually steal elections, like gerrymandering and polling station clusures. Why are you wasting you strength fighting against 2 or 3 invalid votes instead of thousands or millions of disenfranchised valid votes?

originally posted by: rnaa
a reply to: Rob808

Yes its fallible. Nothing is perfect, including demanding photo ID. Just because you have a plastic card with a picture on it what does that prove at the end of the day?. How many under age kids have fake IDs so they can drink?

The only thing a photo ID MIGHT be able to help controll is IN PERSON polling day fraud. How much of that actually occurs? Maybe 2 or 3 per election - across the entire country.

You are trying to make millions of law abiding Americans to spend hundreds of dollars (birth certificates, transportation, etc) to get IDs so they can vote. Most will say screw it and not bother. You are putting up barriers where none should exist.

There are much more widespread fraud scemes going on, schemes that do actually steal elections, like gerrymandering and polling station clusures. Why are you wasting you strength fighting against 2 or 3 invalid votes instead of thousands or millions of disenfranchised valid votes?

working for an employer requires I file my I-9 and provide multiple forms of id as well. Nobody is calling that an obstacle to employment, or racist. Show the millions of Americans with zero form of id who will need to spend hundreds on id (state id is about 25 bucks). No action can be taken involving the government that does not require id. Your thought process is based on many false assumptions, but that’s obvious.

a reply to: Rob808

working for an employer requires I file my I-9 and provide multiple forms of id as well. Nobody is calling that an obstacle to employment, or racist. Show the millions of Americans with zero form of id who will need to spend hundreds on id (state id is about 25 bucks). No action can be taken involving the government that does not require id. Your thought process is based on many false assumptions, but that’s obvious.

YOUR thought process is based on many false assumptions, and that is obviously because you have made no attempt to study the issue.

ACLU Voter ID Fact Sheet

• Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.
  
• Obtaining ID Costs Money. Even if ID is offered for free, voters must incur numerous costs (such as paying for birth certificates) to apply for a government-issued ID.
  
  
  
  • Underlying documents required to obtain ID cost money, a significant expense for lower-income Americans. The combined cost of document fees, travel expenses and waiting time are estimated to range from $75 to $175.2
    That is between 1.5 and 3.7 BILLION dollars out of the voters pockets just to obtain the ID. It does not include taxpayer dollars required to iplement it.
    
  • The travel required is often a major burden on people with disabilities, the elderly, or those in rural areas without access to a car or public transportation. In Texas, some people in rural areas must travel approximately 170 miles to reach the nearest ID office. 'Free ID' is not free
    
  
  
• Voter ID Laws Reduce Voter Turnout. A 2014 GAO study found that strict photo ID laws reduce turnout by 2-3 percentage points,4 which can translate into tens of thousands of votes lost in a single state.
  

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• In-person fraud is vanishingly rare. A recent study found that, since 2000, there were only 31 credible allegations of voter impersonation – the only type of fraud that photo IDs could prevent – during a period of time in which over 1 billion ballots were cast. And most of those instances were simple honest mistakes.
  
• Voter ID laws are a waste of taxpayer dollars. States incur sizeable costs when implementing voter ID laws, including the cost of educating the public, training poll workers, and providing IDs to voters.
  
  
  
  • Texas spent nearly $2 million on voter education and outreach efforts following passage of its Voter ID law.11
    
  • Indiana spent over $10 million to produce free ID cards between 2007 and 2010.
    

Billions of dollars to fix a problem that doesn't actually exist in the real world. 31 cases out of a billion votes in 20 years.

originally posted by: rnaa
a reply to: Rob808

working for an employer requires I file my I-9 and provide multiple forms of id as well. Nobody is calling that an obstacle to employment, or racist. Show the millions of Americans with zero form of id who will need to spend hundreds on id (state id is about 25 bucks). No action can be taken involving the government that does not require id. Your thought process is based on many false assumptions, but that’s obvious.

YOUR thought process is based on many false assumptions, and that is obviously because you have made no attempt to study the issue.

ACLU Voter ID Fact Sheet

• Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.
  
• Obtaining ID Costs Money. Even if ID is offered for free, voters must incur numerous costs (such as paying for birth certificates) to apply for a government-issued ID.
  
  
  
  • Underlying documents required to obtain ID cost money, a significant expense for lower-income Americans. The combined cost of document fees, travel expenses and waiting time are estimated to range from $75 to $175.2
    That is between 1.5 and 3.7 BILLION dollars out of the voters pockets just to obtain the ID. It does not include taxpayer dollars required to iplement it.
    
  • The travel required is often a major burden on people with disabilities, the elderly, or those in rural areas without access to a car or public transportation. In Texas, some people in rural areas must travel approximately 170 miles to reach the nearest ID office. 'Free ID' is not free
    
  
  
• Voter ID Laws Reduce Voter Turnout. A 2014 GAO study found that strict photo ID laws reduce turnout by 2-3 percentage points,4 which can translate into tens of thousands of votes lost in a single state.
  

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• In-person fraud is vanishingly rare. A recent study found that, since 2000, there were only 31 credible allegations of voter impersonation – the only type of fraud that photo IDs could prevent – during a period of time in which over 1 billion ballots were cast. And most of those instances were simple honest mistakes.
  
• Voter ID laws are a waste of taxpayer dollars. States incur sizeable costs when implementing voter ID laws, including the cost of educating the public, training poll workers, and providing IDs to voters.
  
  
  
  • Texas spent nearly $2 million on voter education and outreach efforts following passage of its Voter ID law.11
    
  • Indiana spent over $10 million to produce free ID cards between 2007 and 2010.
    

Billions of dollars to fix a problem that doesn't actually exist in the real world. 31 cases out of a billion votes in 20 years.

none of the numbers you quoted have anything to do with getting just a normal state approved id, which is 25-50$ and required to you know, work and pay taxes.... collect tax returns. Voter outreach and education programs ste not the same as asking for say the same exact info that your employer asks for the I-9 form you filled out, but in your own prejudice you think that minorities somehow CANT do that. I’ve lived in the “inner cities” so your assumptions are false about me. Answer my simple question, is it racist or prohibitively expensive to require id for work and taxes?

Quoting bias studies intent on proving an opinion just means you can repeat like a good parrot, it does not make any of the information correlate correctly to your beliefs, try as you might.

Also, 31 cases of beer on the wall? Try and form your ideas clearly when typing.

a reply to: rnaa