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Originally posted by edsinger
audio of Terri Schiavo 'responding to her father on Friday immediately following the removal of her feeding tube'
Originally posted by marg6043
you know very well that the women is blinking open mouthed vegetable.
And still you bring this here for what? you know is all a lie, to keep the puppets running while the puppeteers do their job.
Originally posted by edsinger
I don't have much time, but if she ate Jello and the husband refused therapy for her, then something is amiss.
I can side with Bush on this one, if there is any doubt, then er on the side of life.
Originally posted by Mahree
Here is the link jukyu posted on 3/21/2005 at 11:59 AM Post Number: 1261935 (post id: 1283828)
This is a quote from jukyu post. please read entire post. It is a good summary of how Terri got to where she is today. It also makes a pretty good case as to why her husband wants her dead.
I have voted jukyu for the Way Above Top Secret award.
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Edsinger, you are a Republican/conservative, right? What role do you think states rights should play in this controversy?
A Blow to the Rule of Law
The New York Times | Editorial
Tuesday 22 March 2005
If you are in a "persistent vegetative state" and there is a dispute about whether to keep you alive, your case will probably go no further than state court - unless you are Terri Schiavo. President Bush signed legislation yesterday giving Ms. Schiavo's parents a personal right to sue in federal court. The new law tramples on the principle that this is "a nation of laws, not of men," and it guts the power of the states. When the commotion over this one tragic woman is over, Congress and the president will have done real damage to the founders' careful plan for American democracy.
Ms. Schiavo's case presents heart-wrenching human issues, and difficult legal ones. But the Florida courts, after careful deliberation, ruled that she would not want to be kept alive by artificial means in her current state, and ordered her feeding tube removed. Ms. Schiavo's parents, who wanted the tube to remain, hoped to get the Florida Legislature to intervene, but it did not do so.
That should have settled the matter. But supporters of Ms. Schiavo's parents, particularly members of the religious right, leaned heavily on Congress and the White House to step in. They did so yesterday with the new law, which gives "any parent of Theresa Marie Schiavo" standing to sue in federal court to keep her alive.
This narrow focus is offensive. The founders believed in a nation in which, as Justice Robert Jackson once wrote, we would "submit ourselves to rulers only if under rules." There is no place in such a system for a special law creating rights for only one family. The White House insists that the law will not be a precedent. But that means that the right to bring such claims in federal court is reserved for people with enough political pull to get a law passed that names them in the text.
The Bush administration and the current Congressional leadership like to wax eloquent about states' rights. But they dropped those principles in their rush to stampede over the Florida courts and Legislature. The new law doesn't miss a chance to trample on the state's autonomy and dignity. There are a variety of technical legal doctrines the federal courts use to show deference to state courts, like "abstention" and "exhaustion of remedies." The new law decrees that in Ms. Schiavo's case, these well-established doctrines simply will not apply.
Republicans have traditionally championed respect for the delicate balance the founders created. But in the Schiavo case, and in the battle to stop the Democratic filibusters of judicial nominations, President Bush and his Congressional allies have begun to enunciate a new principle: the rules of government are worth respecting only if they produce the result we want. It may be a formula for short-term political success, but it is no way to preserve and protect a great republic.
www.truthout.org...
Pull the Plug on Pandering
By Molly Ivins, AlterNet
Posted on March 22, 2005, Printed on March 24, 2005
www.alternet.org...
I write about the Terry Schiavo case both as one who has personally confronted the "pull the plug" question on several levels in recent years and as a staggered observer of this festival of political hypocrisy, opportunism and the trashing of constitutional law, common sense and common decency.
Look, the fundamental question in such cases is, "Who decides?" Preferably, the dying themselves, with a living will. In this case, evidence that Terry Schiavo did not want her life continued in its current pitiable state has been offered and accepted in several courts of law. Next, the next-of-kin, though in many cases someone else may be closer to the dying person, such as a longtime lover, and should be legally designated to make the decision through power of attorney.
Bad cases make bad law, and this is a bad case. In the tragic cases where a family splits on the decision, the case goes to court, where there is a well-established body of law on the subject. The Schiavo case has been litigated for seven years now, the verdict upheld at every level (including the U.S. Supreme Court, by refusing to hear arguments). It is beyond comprehension, not to mention the Constitution, that the Congress of the United States and the president should have involved themselves at this point.
What on earth makes them think they have the right to do so? Both libertarians and constitutional conservatives, including Justice Scalia, should be having fits over this push by the federal government into a private family matter. Congress has no power to overturn judicial decisions, nor has it any role in such painful personal decisions. This is as arrogant a usurpation of power as we have had since FDR's court-packing plan.
www.alternet.org...
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Edsinger, you are a Republican/conservative, right? What role do you think states rights should play in this controversy?
Edsinger, you have yet to respond to my question. Do you not agree this issue is one of states rights? As a Republican, I would think you'd be a champion of states rights.
The Supreme Court obviously sees it that way.