Biden Administration Prepares Way For Banks To Refuse Service To Democrats’ Enemies

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: daskakik
Now gun sellers:- Biden wants to severely limit what type of gun you own and how many you own. Now the question would be answered by saying "who would lose out with this action". Answer the gun sellers.

The action is about pressuring banks to deny service to some businesses. This doesn't mean these businesses can't continue to operate and if they can't offer credit they will probably end up selling only for cash, going against the argument below.

Pawnshops and money lenders is the easiest. You of course have been hiding away if you haven't seen all the actions by the banks and big businesses to go to digital currency:- ie. get rid of cash. Now just who deals in cash only??? Oh yes, pawnshops and money lenders.

Again, this doesn't get rid of cash, it makes it difficult for these business to get service from banks, but they can still use cash.

From what I quickly scanned in a google search, seems like some lenders have customers fill out pre-dated checks for the amount+interest owed so they can just cash it and not have to wait around for the customer to cancel in cash, so it isn't always a cash only deal.


ETA: And of course the main point, why does the article make it sound like these are "right favoured businesses"? What makes them "right favoured businesses"?

a reply to: daskakik
Firstly let me explain the "left disfavoured businesses". The word "disfavoured" means NOT favoured, therefore if it's not favoured by the left, hence "left disfavoured", it's favoured by the right. The statement is double speak gobbledegook.
I did not say cash would be eliminated in one fell swoop, yes there will be some still operating with cash but they will be small businesses and the banks will make it harder and harder to function.

originally posted by: crayzeed
Firstly let me explain the "left disfavoured businesses". The word "disfavoured" means NOT favoured, therefore if it's not favoured by the left, hence "left disfavoured", it's favoured by the right. The statement is double speak gobbledegook.

I know, that is why I keep pointing out, in the form of a question, how this action can't be an attack on only businesses on one side of the political spectrum and that the article was written with that spin in mind.

I did not say cash would be eliminated in one fell swoop...

That is an understatement.

The article mentions dozens of businesses affected by Operation Choke Point, so that would be more than 24 and less than a hundred, otherwise they would have gone with a higher number.

According to this: Map shows where there are more gun stores than Starbucks in USA

There are approximately 65,000 gun dealers across USA.

That is just the gun dealers.

So "dozens" of businesses, while a blatant example of government overreach, will leave more than just "some" businesses operating.

A friendly reminder that this is not the Mud Pit.

Also, if your post is removed for political trolling, it comes with an automatic two warnings.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
"leftist-disfavored businesses" sounds like an odd description, what does it mean and why would it apply to "gun sellers, pawnshops, and short-term money lenders".

The same way that the IRS was weaponized by the Obama/Biden administration and targetted only conservative/right-wing groups...

How do they know whom is whom?... Because they are the government and have the tools to know exactly whom is whom and whom owns what business...

originally posted by: watchitburn
If anything, I'd think pawn shops and payday lenders would be favored by the leftists.

Crackheads need someone to sell their stolen TVs to. And guys with 5 baby mommas are going to need a loan to pay that child support.

We are talking about the U.S. government. They know exactly whom own what business.

How was it that they were able to target right-wing/conservative groups while weaponizing the IRS against only conservative/right-wing groups?... Remember that under Obama/Biden they also weaponized all intelligence agencies and were keeping records ON ALL AMERICANS and our phone calls.

How easily the left forgets that the Obama/Biden administration lied, including to Congress, and were caught only when Snowden revealed the full extend of the spy network the Obama/Biden administration unleashed on ALL AMERICANS...

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Based on reports of the number of domestic phone calls being recorded by the National Security Agency, the Obama administration must have probable cause to suspect millions of us of threatening national security.

According to recent news reports (see here), documents obtained by former NSA contractor turned whistleblower Edward Snowden reveal that, in a 30-day period earlier this year, the NSA recorded data on 124.8 billion phone calls, about 3 billion of which originated within the United States.
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Document Reveals NSA Monitored 125 Billion Phone Calls in One Month

Obama administration defends massive phone record collection

Obama/Biden's thugs Clapper, Brennan, etc lied to Congress and were caught lying. They claimed that they were not spying on Americans, and were caught in the lie. They were spying on all Americans.

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The order, a copy of which apparently was obtained by The Guardian, reportedly was granted by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court on April 25 and is good until July 19.

It requires Verizon, one of the nation's largest telecommunications companies, on an "ongoing, daily basis" to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the U.S. and between the U.S. and other countries.
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NSA reportedly collecting phone records of millions, though officials had denied holding 'data' on Americans

On Tuesday, Obama’s National Security Advisor Susan Rice admitted that she used the intelligence community to spy on members of the Trump team, but this type of behavior isn’t anything new.

In fact, it appears the Obama White House had been spying on its political opponents and leaking classified information about them long before Donald Trump won the presidential election last November, Lee Smith of Tablet Magazine writes.

Remember the Iran Deal negotiations? In December 2015, The Wall Street Journal revealed that the Obama administration used the NSA to cast a wide net of surveillance around not just Israeli officials and diplomats, but American lawmakers who were friendly towards Israel as well as Jewish-American groups.
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BOMBSHELL: The Obama Spying Scandal Started Long Before Trump

The Biden/Harris administration didn't begin all of this. The Obama/Biden administrations did, and the Biden/Harris administration are only finishing what the Obama/Biden admins started.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse
There's the answer I was waiting for.

Now the question is, why did they mess with only dozens?

More to the point, it obviously took something extra to be put on their hit list than just being a conservative/right-wing business owner.

Like I said, it is not ok, but it also doesn't seem like something the majority of conservative/right-wing folk have to be worried about unless of course...

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
There's the answer I was waiting for.

Now the question is, why did they mess with only dozens?

More to the point, it obviously took something extra to be put on their hit list than just being a conservative/right-wing business owner.

Like I said, it is not ok, but it also doesn't seem like something the majority of conservative/right-wing folk have to be worried about unless of course...

ROFLMAO... wow... You have got to be kidding...

You seem to forget the Obama/Biden administration targeted candidate Trump and his campaign advisors, and spied on them over false claims that "they colluded with Russia..." When from day 1 the Obama/Biden admin and their lackeys, including Comey & McCabe, knowing LIED and signed FISA warrants claiming they had corroborated evidence of collusion with Russia, but when he was asked under oath to Congress Comey admitted they NEVER corroborated those claims...

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He didn’t seem to know that his own FBI was using No. 4 Justice Department official Bruce Ohr as a conduit to keep collecting intelligence from Christopher Steele after the British intel operative was fired by the bureau for leaking and lying. In fact, Comey didn’t seem to remember knowing that Steele had been terminated, according to sources in the room.
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The towering ex-FBI boss confessed that the FBI had not corroborated much of the Steele dossier before it was submitted as evidence to a secret court to support a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to spy on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page in the final weeks of the election.
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Comey’s confession: dossier not verified before, or after, FISA warrant

If the Obama/Biden administration could do this to not just a presidential candidate, but continued doing it to whom is supposed to be the most powerful person in the world, the POTUS, they can make similar claims about regular Americans and can get away with it...

Heck, former democrat, now fascist/communist, leaders are getting away with labeling all Trump supporters as "terrorists." They are getting away with lying about what happened on the 6th, including false claims that Trump supporters murdered police officers when they died of strokes, or other causes... They have gotten away with lying claiming President Trump incited violence, when it has been them, Pelosi, Waters, Schiff, AOC, Swalwell, Schummer, etc, including now VP Harris whom did incite more violence from the far left groups Antifa, BLM, and anarchist socialists/communists whom caused chaos, murder and violence for over 9 months.

You also seem to forget that Obama/Biden implemented "indefinite detention" in which they only had to claim an American was "a terrorist" and they didn't/don't need to prove that American/those Americans committed any crime. Under "indefinite detention" the Obama/Biden/Harris and demoncrat fascists can deny all rights to those they accuse of being "terrorists." Americans can be denied a lawyer, their miranda rights, and all other rights...

At first even some left-wing sources were against this. But it seems that since Obama/Biden threatened journalists and took them to court for not giving up their whistleblower sources, and as your fascist/communist messiah threatened others for not kowtowing to his agenda most left-wing journalists stopped reporting on this sort of draconian actions by the Obama/Biden admin. Which now Biden/Harris are continuing.

This Administration Now Has The Power To Indefinitely Detain Americans Without Charge Or Trial

Now that everyone on the right, and all Trump supporters have been deemed as "terrorists," including by the lying far left fascists you voted for, they have all they need to put Americans in prison for being your political opponents.

Your claims that "but, but they must have done something" is a lie, and you know it. Although you don't want to admit it.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse
You pretty much proved my point, they had it out for Trump. That little old lady down the street that voted for him, not so much.

The proof of whether it is a lie or not is in the low numbers of people affected by the operation last time.

The blank at the end of my post can be filled out in one of three ways (that I can think of):
1. they are gunning for you for a reason
2. you're paranoid
3. you're being a Karen

Regardless of the one that might fit, sucks to be you, I guess.

BTW, Obama/Biden weren't the only ones whom weaponized government agencies. Other far left leaders did as well.

ACLJ FILES SUIT AGAINST IRS FOR FAILING TO RELEASE RECORDS BETWEEN IRS AND U.S. SENATOR JEANNE SHAHEEN OF NEW HAMPSHIRE WHO DEMANDED IRS PROBE CONSERVATIVE ORGANIZATIONS

How easily does the far left forgets facts... Such as the fact that one of the higher ups in the IRS whom was taken to court over her actions in weaponizing the IRS asked the court to seal all her statements because she feared that if conservatives knew what she did and why they would target her and murder her and her family... The judge agreed and sealed her statements.

She knew what she did was wrong, and still did it, and to get away with it she asked for her statements to be forever sealed so the American public would not find out why and what she did, alongside other far left dictators all loyalists to Obama/Biden.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
You pretty much proved my point, they had it out for Trump. That little old lady down the street that voted for him, not so much.

The proof of whether it is a lie or not is in the low numbers of people affected by the operation last time.

The blank at the end of my post can be filled out in one of three ways (that I can think of):
1. they are gunning for you for a reason
2. you're paranoid
3. you're being a Karen

Regardless of the one that might fit, sucks to be you, I guess.

I did no such thing, and you just keep on lying. It seems you learned very well from your far-left dictatorial leaders you love so much.

They didn't just target "some, or dozens of groups..."

Three years after the IRS admitted officials singled out conservative groups for extra scrutiny, the tax-collecting agency has released a near-complete list of the organizations targeted.

And it numbers in the hundreds — for the first time showing the extent to which the agency slow-walked applications for tax-exempt status.

The new list shows a total of 426 organizations, far higher than what the Treasury Department’s inspector general believed there to be in May 2013, when he identified 298 groups.
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IRS releases list of groups targeted in scandal – 3 years later

So you should stop lying.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse
The topic of the thread was the reversal allowing things like Operation Choke Point to happen. The article in the OP said dozens. Have a problem with that? Take it up with the author.

But since you brought it up, 426 orgs is a low number as well, when people are worried they are coming for 70+ million.

And, once again, I am not part of your left-right tug-a-war, regardless of how bad you want to drag me into it.

originally posted by: daskakik

The action is about pressuring banks to deny service to some businesses. This doesn't mean these businesses can't continue to operate and if they can't offer credit they will probably end up selling only for cash, going against the argument below.

You kind of remind me of soldiers/employees of dictatorial regimes whom first attempt to minimize, or attempt to dismiss the actions of far left dictators...

Most businesses depend on bank loans... Without bank loans most businesses cannot operate at all unless we are talking about someone whom is super rich and don't need bank loans...

originally posted by: daskakik
ETA: And of course the main point, why does the article make it sound like these are "right favoured businesses"? What makes them "right favoured businesses"?

Because they could be businesses that donate to republicans, and or donated to Trump's campaigns?...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Don't know why you felt the need to reply to that post when you had already answered pretty much the same thing and I acknowledged that was the answer I was waiting for.

a reply to: daskakik

But since you brought it up, 426 orgs is a low number as well, when people are worried they are coming for 70+ million.

The Number doesnt matter, it should not have happened anyway and it should be illegal.

Your equivocation is like saying "oh well he just murdered ONE person, it wasnt like he was a mass murderer"

You should get a gold medal for that level of mental gymnastics.

Again it should NEVER happen period, there shoudnt even be 1

a reply to: CrazyWater
I already said it was not ok, but my point was about people worrying that they are coming for them and in that context, it does matter.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: CrazyWater
I already said it was not ok, but my point was about people worrying that they are coming for them and in that context, it does matter.

And the fact that far left leaders have labeled ALL Republicans, as well as all Trump supporters, as terrorists, enemies of the states, etc despite the fact that those far left leaders themselves and the lying mainstream media have done far worse inciting more violence from Antifa, BLM, etc. The far left, no longer just left, is also stating they are coming after all their political opponents...

For crying out loud, a stupid nazi in MSNBC, Nicolle Wallace called for droning Trump supporters and Trump himself... and the other far left in her show agreed with her...

This is what the fascist regimes, and all communist regimes, have done before puting millions of citizens in gulags, concentration camps, or before exterminating millions of people for being political opponents, for being religious, and anti-left...

Yet you keep on attempting to claim "they are not really going to do what they say they will do..."

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Yet you keep on attempting to claim "they are not really going to do what they say they will do..."

I will gladly admit I was wrong when it happens.

Until then, it is my opinion that the only ones worrying are the three types of people I mentioned earlier. Which one are you? (Rhetorical question is rhetorical)