I decided to do a bit of meditations and candles and I managed to channel a "dark one," who calls itself "Lucifer." The following is an actual transcript of what transpired. I make no guarantee that this is the one and only Lucifer, only that this is what "It" said.

Q: Are you the real Lucifer?
A: It's getting really hot in your brain right now, I'd move back a ways.

Q: Are you the ultimate evil?
A: The ultimate evil is a frustrated impulse.

Q: Do you hate little kids and kittens?
A: Mmm, a nice bit of public relations here, you're leading the witness. I don't hate any one group specifically. I don't even hate. I am a creature of Chaos and I love the taste. I am the anathema of frustrated desire.

Q: Do you think I'm being kind of cheeky with these questions and are going to kick my @$$ for disrespecting you?
A: I appreciate your honesty, in all its prickly glory. I give you points. I don't do revenge. I let things play out as it should--in this regard, Order helps me. Karma is inevitable.

Q: Do you hate Jesus--or rather, are you His enemy?
A: Jesus, as it is popularly known, is an entrapment. It is a tool to frustrate real desire in favor if a false "acceptable" desire. The desire to be "saved." Look into any ideal picture long enough, dig amongst the bits, and you will find a degree of vileness and treachery. There is no absolute on this plane or in your souls. I am the Lord of the Imperfect. The Perfect is beyond good and evil--it is not what is popularly known as God or Jesus. My counterpart is Order. Order is not God or Jesus. Jesus is as Athena is as Ganeesh is as Benjamin Franklin is, just another mask, another idea, albeit a stubbornly virulent idea. Jesus is the sieve that shakes the chaff from the wheat, but not as you were taught. It is an enslavement of mind.

Q: Why do you think Jesus has been so popular?
A: People want to believe that there is a Daddy that knows what to do. It is the most basic yearning of the unrealized mind.

Q: Well, this is pretty insulting to Christians, though they expected this from you.
A: What the **** do I care?

Q: Right. Anyway, what about Christians? Are you their enemy?
A: They're amusing enough. As I said, look at any perfect picture and see the cracks, see the vileness. I live for it, for the revealings.

Q: But what about Christians and other people who are really good people? Self-sacrificing people? What about the noble impulse?
A: Nobility is a cultural construct. Civilization is a cultural construct, completely maya. Remove the comfortable situation in your cities, introduce famine or war or some other hardship, even cut off their gas or electricity, and you will see reality at its most basic, and humanity in its most unvarnished glory.

Q: Let's stop talking about the cosmic questions for a tick and discuss something *really* important--Me. What level of spiritual development do you think I'm at?
A: A bit overripe.

Q: What should I focus on at this point of my life?
A: Consolidation.

Q: Is my kundalini activated?
A: It's enjoyable.

Q: What's my destiny?
A: To be a royal pain in the @$$ for the deserving.

Q: How do I die?
A: Bullseye.

Q: Well, that's creepy. Anyway, let's go back to some more general questions about the world. Do Aliens exist & what are they?
A: Aliens are agents of Chaos. They live off of adrenal surges in the form of energy. Chaos energy. They are the destabilizers.

Q: Are aliens actual creatures or just spirit-like things?
A: Material or ether are just points on a continuum.

Q: Why are aliens so interested in our reproductive systems?
A: Because that is where you are most vulnerable.

Q: What the heck do you mean by that?
A: It's creepy.

Q: How about alien/human hybrids?
A: Completely separate topic from reproductive systems. These can be engineered directly through DNA tampering via radiation. The purpose is destabilization.

Q: How about "indigo children"?
A: Such creatures in their perfected form will be quite interesting.

Q: Doesn't Humankind get a savior?
A: Save yourself through knowing yourself and toss away the rest of what you hear.

Q: Is there a New World Order that controls what we do?
A: The essential nature of humanity is to sate desire. It is the natural, healthy Way--healthy meaning natural, sans maya. Humans hunger for food, money, sex, power. In every structure mirrored in this way. Why not in politics? Enslave as much as you can.

Q: But what about karma? Do unto others as others do unto you?
A: Sorry.

Q: Sorry? If a dictator is responsible for the death of some defenseless child...
A: Chances are, that child is such a blip on the radar that the dictator will never know. And the child never avenged or acknowledged in any way. Just like if it was killed in a tsunami.

Q: I still believe there is some sort of checks and balances.
A: Well obviously there are actions and reactions--where you err in your thinking is in assigning it a moral component.

Q: That totally sucks @$$.
A: Happy birthday.

Q: Nobody really believes I'm channeling Lucifer, you know. They think this is a creative writing exercise.
A: They're all creative writing exercises. Every last one of those books and gurus. Spiritual masturbation. None more relevant or right than anyone else.

Q: What happens in 2012?
A: Some fairly big gashes in your reality.

Q: How about the apocalypse? The end of the world? How will it happen?
A: Apocalypses, generally, are personal. But eventually your planet gets swallowed by the sun, in the very end, after everything.

Q: Do Satanists get any special "door prizes" for following you?
A: I go not for creeds, but actions.

Q: What actions do you approve of?
A: I eat Chaos.

Q: If I channeled Order would I get completely different answers?
A: Not on the fundamentals. Though it would "cushion" certain things differently as to not unduly upset you.

Q: Who is more powerful, Order or Chaos?
A: Straight down the middle, necessarily.

Q: Out of all the philosophers & sages & prophets, who was the most right?
A: We are the suns of our own universe.

Q: I feel really sick right now--I'm not kidding.
A: And you're blaming me due to some superstition? How medieval.

Q: Every time a baby is aborted, do you jump up in joy?
A: Abortion is too quick. A chaotic life is far more interesting.

Q: How about angels, what of you think of them?
A: Spiritual parasites.

Q: Athiests?
A: Athiests are more capable of living out their desires instead of smothering them.

Q: Yeah, but athiests don't even think you exist, either.
A: No one needs to think I exist as some sort of anthropomorphic entity. I am around, it's quite plain to notice me, you don't need any frosting to justify out my existence.

Q: What happens after we die?
A: Stay away from the big light if you want to retain your consciousness. The Light is the first snare, it scoops a lot along its way. It boils down to consciousness versus sweet blissful ignorance.

Q: Just like in the Bible? The tree of knowedge? And you were the snake, right?
A: This is like saying I was a character in Blade Runner.

Q: Do you have any general words of wisdom to give to those reading this?
A: "Prepare to be disappointed."

Q: Right. Well, it was nice talking to you, Lucifer. Thanks for your time. Oh one more thing--is there an Anti-Christ?
A: Here's what you do. Play the most scary horror movie that you can, at either 12 noon or three o'clock in the morning. Decode the actual satanic essences from the thing--you will be surprised. Get in a frightful state. Now turn on CNN.

Q: Well I can't say I always understand you or agree with what you have to say, but it's been real.
A: You'd be surprised.

--->I felt sick halfway through doing this, but now I'm ok. Well that was interesting, at any rate.

Ummmm, Cassie that what quite a conversation.
Some very interesting remarks by the man from Chaos.

I don't know how adept you are at such things, but isn't it dangerous to search around for dark spirits??????

How long have you been doing this? That’s a pretty tall tale but hey I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Can you ask these questions next time. Please

Next time ask him why the pyramids were built and who really built them.

What’s the deal with the Bermuda triangle?

Why is the pyramid and the triangle so often used as symbols?

Very weird exprience ive been meaning to do something like that lately dont know why just thought to see what i got but yeah if it did happen strange indeed.

I would think it's best not to talk to Satan. He is a master at mixing truth and lies and can easily fool people into believing a lie. He can appear anywhere on Earth he wants to I believe. Of course many or most people won't believe he is real anyway or a real threat which I believe is exactly the way he wants things to remain. Thus a chat with the devil becomes entertainment for the masses. He is very clever and sneaky. I would advise to not listen to him.

Mmmmm...that Satanic syntax was just so syrupy... Delicious. There were a few places he could have been more..yaknow..devilish. But on the whole I'd say you represented the idea well. I particularly liked the bit about angels being spiritual parasites..too true. The saints, what a bunch of glory hogs and drama queens, spiritual parasites indeed.

You should have asked him about the pope, I promise it would have been a memorable answer.

I enjoyed reading that. Thanks. There's a long tradition of demonic monologues that are a delight to read, all the really good writers have done one, whether they knew it or not.

I have my own Mephistopheles Monologue, I'll post it some time on the fiction forum.

"We are suns of our own universe." I couldn't have said it better myself Chaos.

I dont mean to sound rude, but it seems to me, that this was a conversation between you and yourself, not fake, but your conscious mind talking to your unconscious mind, and your unconscious mind was just making things up.

This was a good read,but be weary of constant contact of lower vibrational entities.These same beings can be manipulating you when you go to sleep and you bridge the gap by conversing with this entity.And I know your intentions are good.But remember, "those who knock loud enough will be heard".And what price do you take in by conversing with this entity.Their is always a price! Just remain indifferent to whatever you ask him.They feed off your emotions,fear,despair etc.. But yes its a good way to test your armor."You are the light through the darkness".The first sign of weakness and thats when you are trapped.These are clever beings,and I use the word beings,plural for a reason.If it were me I would personally ask more benevolent beings on these matters of importance."Good hunting on your quest for truth".

those answers sound human more than anything else. prehaps if you werent talking to yourself you were talking to a dead human.

I personally thought Satan was very witty and funny, but I personally wouldn't want to channel him. I suggest you don't either. When I go through my channeling sessions I do it after meditating on god and protecting myself with god's light.

I suggest you do the same.

[edit on 21-3-2005 by Indigo_Child]

Originally posted by Cassie Clay
Q: But what about Christians and other people who are really good people? Self-sacrificing people? What about the noble impulse?
A: Nobility is a cultural construct. Civilization is a cultural construct, completely maya. Remove the comfortable situation in your cities, introduce famine or war or some other hardship, even cut off their gas or electricity, and you will see reality at its most basic, and humanity in its most unvarnished glory.

Indeed, such situation as mentioned are where the true nobility of man can be seen. The two extremes of man, do tend to rise to the surface in times of great adversity, it has been ever thus. It is however where such great qualities of man can be viewed, including self scarificing love that a man can hold for his brother. And it is said, 'greater Love has no man than this, that he lay down his live for his brother"

Humbling humanity which even burned, as a candle in the night, in the dark days of WWII.

The point made is in opposition to that which was desired I believe, and rather serves to show that which can be man's most distinguished quality.

I doubt any 'Lucifer' would make such an error.

Jack

[edit on 21/3/05 by JAK]

The feeling I get is that Lucifer is not negative or darkness. In fact I think it is accurate that he is seen holding a light. As he shows you the light. Lucifer is actually a key to the order in the chaos.

However, it isn't darkness that you should be letting into your life. You already know the light, don't you? Lucifer has shone the way for you. Leave him where he is, to play his role in this universe, and you go on ahead. Lucifer is very important in this universe. The personification of darkness is what we need to recognise love and truth. Lucifer brings harmony. His role is immutable.

Lucifer says you are empowered by being separate from the whole, by leading your life without god. This, actually seeks to disempower you, because without the whole, you are just one a part of infinite many. However, by disempowering you and making you exist as a part, you begin to yearn for the whole.

Do you know why love and light is the greatest force in this universe? Because it's just so right. It makes you feel complete. Love is the greatest force in this universe. I know that can sould sappy, but it's true.

Love is the very essence of being. You should have given some love to Lucifer

[edit on 21-3-2005 by Indigo_Child]

wow. that's interesting. but this is something that i have absolutely no desire to be involved in.

as a christian...........(yes one of the people that your lucifer mocks) i have no desire to contact him.

i embrace all that is good and true. i embrace my GOD and my beliefs.

it scares me to think that someone could be "playing" by trying to contact dark ones. i would be afraid that a door would open and something very dark and very evil could come through.

no thanks.

i suggest much care if you continue along this path.


angie

I thought satan, lucifer, etc was associated more with light than darkness, at least in occult and NWo stuff. Isn't that why there are called illuminati , not darkinati ?

doesnt lucifer mean the lightbringer or light bearer somewhere?

When I met Lucifer, he was covered in light but it does not radiate, it is light the light of those fish that live in the bottom of the ocean. You know the really scary ones, with the big teeth, and little dim bulb on top of their head. He is the biggest parasite I ever met. The light that covered him seems to be the souls of the damned. The covered him like fig leaves. He owned me for three years, you would be very wise never to do that again. The very fact you contacted him is going to cost you. That part about him not being into revenge, he lied. That is all he is about. You have to pay to play with him. One day he will come calling.

syrinx, lamagraa
Yes, but the game being played on humanity is all about opposites. If a thing is called dark, it is probably light. If a thing is called evil, it is probably 'good' or, natural. If a thing is called pure, it is probably corrupt. The constant joke of the initiated against the poor, unwashed masses, is to occasionaly pass on some tiny tidbit of knowledge (backwards or otherwise tainted), and oh! the masses, they get so excited, they feel really privileged. They take that little bit of nothing, that snickering lie, and they base a philosophy or a religion or a cult around it.

It's a cosmic joke.

If you don't want to fall prey to it, remember the rule of opposites. Or don't.

Who knows anymore, right? I love chaos...

Originally posted by Balaams donkey
When I met Lucifer, he was covered in light but it does not radiate, it is light the light of those fish that live in the bottom of the ocean. You know the really scary ones, with the big teeth, and little dim bulb on top of their head. He is the biggest parasite I ever met. The light that covered him seems to be the souls of the damned. The covered him like fig leaves. He owned me for three years, you would be very wise never to do that again. The very fact you contacted him is going to cost you. That part about him not being into revenge, he lied. That is all he is about. You have to pay to play with him. One day he will come calling.

its good that you gave your experiences on this. maybe it will help someone that doesn't realize the depth they can get sucked in to something like this.

i'm glad you were able to free yourself. well done.

angie

excellent read Cassie

But how are you sure you werent talking to your higher self?

Cassie Clay, if you don't mind me asking, how did this come about?
Actually same question to Balaam's donkey.