Ok, this thread is probably going to be closed faster than you can say 'flamebait'. The forum rules state no X vs Y threads, and this is a VERY heated topic if you have been on this forum for any length of time.

Quite simply? There is no Airbus vs Boeing - the A380 and the 787/7E7 compete in totally different markets and are both nice aircraft.

Uh...Flamebait....

Contribute opinions only please, not putdowns. Thank you very much.

Originally posted by jazzmaster
Uh...Flamebait....

Contribute opinions only please, not putdowns. Thank you very much.

It isnt a putdown, its a raw hard fact. Every single Boeing or Airbus topic has ended up being a flamefest of epic proportions, and by creating an Airbus vs Boeing topic you are quite simply asking for inflamatory posts. Do you really think that such a topic will produce a reasoned, steady discussion void of any derogatory or non constructive posts?

*puts on Nomex II Flight Suit*

Okay where do I begin with this one. Just kidding

Richard and know exactly where we stand on this whole issue

C'mon, it can't be as bad as the U.S Vs China posts.

Or the Indian Airforce Vs Pakistani Airforce.

Rather be in the boeing 7E7. The airbus is made entirely out of composite material that is in the early experimental stage. The 7E7 is more reliable and safer.

Originally posted by websurfer
Rather be in the boeing 7E7. The airbus is made entirely out of composite material that is in the early experimental stage. The 7E7 is more reliable and safer.

The Airbus is only made out of 25% composite, verses the near 100% of the 7E7. The 7E7 is using brand new techniques for the engines and electronics. All of which are untested outside the lab and thus theres absolutely no way you can sanely claim that the 7E7 is 'more reliable and safer'.

Originally posted by Rapier 28
C'mon, it can't be as bad as the U.S Vs China posts.

Or the Indian Airforce Vs Pakistani Airforce.

- Want a bet?

(*cough* EU loans *cough* or *cough* US military R&D 'investment'? *cough*)

Originally posted by websurfer
Rather be in the boeing 7E7. The airbus is made entirely out of composite material that is in the early experimental stage.

- Actually I think you'll find that composites have been around in Airbus aircraft for some time......whether Boeing have ever used them or have much experience in using them to a large extent on their old fashioned aircraft is another matter.

But, whatever ( ), you'll some brand new composites are also to be used extensively on the Boeing 787.

(It's part of the tech transfer that the sale of 60 to China represents that the US apparantly now feels perfectly happy about, plastic aeroplanes......no stealth application there at all, huh? )

The 7E7 is more reliable and safer.

- The 787 hasn't even been constructed yet never mind flown.....

.......and the Airbus safety record is second to none, for your information, actually.

How long of a runway would an airbus require compared to the 7E7 for both takeoff and landing?

What about the damage done to the runway due to its massive size?


My guess is that the number of airports the airbus could land at would be limited due to its massive size compared to the 7E7. This would call for a lot of transfers from one airplane to the next.

AIRBUS 380, or Awfully Intrusive, Really Big, Ugly Superjet 380...?

Boeing. Just remember, bigger isn't always better.

They both are nice and serve very different markets.

Cudos to both.

Both planes are damn cool, I just don't want Airbus getting the tanker contract for the U.S. Air Force.

I like both planes, and i'm sure both will do well.
The 380 is impressive with just its size, while the 787 has a very good looking streamlined look.

But company wise...I like boeing more, but with airbus now the top dog in commercial plane sales, Airbus might squish boeing in the future. Obviously not the whole company, but I think it will take over the passenger jet market. Northrop and Lockheed look like they have a bright future with the military, and Airbus with passengers, Boeing does both those roles, and I think its to much for the company, there plane designs are loosing to others (X-32), and there 767 (passenger airliner) didn't do very well. The 787 will keep them in the game, but the 797 will have to be much more impressive if they want to survive in the airliner game.

Gosh.

I've learned more about Boeing martketing and its strategic plans here, along with aspects of aeronautics engineering, than I could've dreamed possible.

O Brave new world that has such people in't!

Shakespeare, "The Tempest"

ok ok,
unprepared runways then, but i am pretty sure that the 124 can land on
a dirt strip

Air Bus V Boeing, not even close. If the Air Bus is built like a french car or french wine then I will take a Boeing any day.