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Did the Pfizer / Moderna / Oxford vaccines cause "SuperCOVID" strains to appear?

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posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 02:07 AM
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This is a map of where the media is claiming the recent "SuperCOVID" strains emerged from. It's the exact same locations as where these "vaccines" were tested.

Moderna - USA

Pfizer / Biontech - USA, Brazil, South Africa (& Argentina - not shown. Only 1 site in Argentina - Buenos Aires - near Brazil)

Oxford - UK, Brazil, & South Africa.

www.ox.ac.uk...



Experts warn that once vaccines and antibodies are used frequently in a population, more antibody resistant Sars-Cov-2 virus strains would emerge
- Thailand Medical News article from 2 months ago


See bacteria evolve when confronted with antibiotics - Harvard Med School




For reference - here are new stories re: new "Super strains":

Covid: How worrying are the UK, South Africa, and Brazil coronavirus variants?

www.bbc.com...


newer stories about USA version...


www.dailymail.co.uk...

www.thesun.ie...


China's Sinopharm uses a more traditional approach than any of the 3 companies above. Which use mRNA and Adeno


What’s The Difference Between Covid-19 Coronavirus Vaccines?

www.forbes.com...
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posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 02:22 AM
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The new variants seemed to have originated from Brazil. A poorer country where the situation spiralled out of control due to the Brazilian President's no mask, herd immunity stance.

And also Denmark at the mink farms.



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 02:26 AM
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a reply to: dontneedaname
"SuperCOVID" strains

Or, going by Australian News where some vaccine patients are now HIV+, the virus is simply another standard flu virus having an easier job to infect those who have been previously vaccinated.



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 02:31 AM
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Meanwhile, they just released that pcr testing may have been inaccurate and giving false positives.
Like I said since day 1.
Bunk tests and common flu symptoms



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 02:43 AM
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originally posted by: Mandroid7
Meanwhile, they just released that pcr testing may have been inaccurate and giving false positives.
Like I said since day 1.
Bunk tests and common flu symptoms


No argument here. It's seasonal....for the most part



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 02:44 AM
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originally posted by: Rapha

a reply to: dontneedaname
"SuperCOVID" strains

Or, going by Australian News where some vaccine patients are now HIV+, the virus is simply another standard flu virus having an easier job to infect those who have been previously vaccinated.


No argument here...



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 02:45 AM
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originally posted by: Michigan72
The new variants seemed to have originated from Brazil. A poorer country where the situation spiralled out of control due to the Brazilian President's no mask, herd immunity stance.

And also Denmark at the mink farms.


Cuomo says it’s ‘shocking’ most new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who had been staying home

www.cnbc.com...

seasonal graphs for many areas....

twitter.com...
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posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 03:33 AM
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What disturbs me about these vaccines, such as the Australian post vaccine HIV incidents, is that many of the scientists questioned about such things will rattle out the reasons why they think there’s no issue, but always end with the caveat ‘but we can’t be sure.’



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 03:58 AM
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The haste behind these vaccine rollouts should cause serious concern for everyone. A typical drug takes about 5 years from trials to approval. Vaccines? Closer to 10. We have no idea what the downstream unintended consequences of these vaccines might be.

Fortunately - selfishly - for me, I am a healthy. I wont be "eligible" for a jab for at least a year. (If I had to, I would choose the Astra Zeneca)

The timing of these "super" variants is suspicious as hell to me. No sooner are vaccines ready, mutations come along. There is a concerted effort to keep people in their homes, afraid and dependent on the government for their rent and food.

There will be public pressure for everyone to get vaccinated by creating a different class of people.

Want to go to a concert, sporting event, international travel, your favourite retailer? - Show your vaccine certificate.



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 04:10 AM
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a reply to: dontneedaname

Well, it kind of makes sense. The more our immune systems, as a collective, fight against the virus, the more desperate it will get and mutate becoming more contagious, yet slightly weaker.

The vaccines aren't really a true vaccine, they aren't made from a dead virus like the flu shot. Its more of a mega booster shot that causes our immune systems to become more vigilant against this certain virus. It, from my understanding is simply speeding up the process of herd immunity.



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 06:44 AM
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That Forbe's article, at least for me, supports the conspiracy theory that SarsCov2 is a GM, lab made virus that escaped containment.

In almost every example of vaccines they talked about, they were genetically altered, spliced together, lab developed chimeras, just like they have tried to deny SarsCov2 is. After reading that article, I'm sure that COVID19 comes from a natural source, unaltered by human tinkering (NOT).

Words and phrases used like, "weakening", "attenuated", "inactivated", "artificially create", "combines . . . antigen from one virus with . . . another — unrelated — virus" and "built upon viruses from other species" prove they can and have made many chimeric mutations in the labs.

As for the HIV positive results from the Aussie vaccine, it just helps prove that SarsCov2 was spliced with HIV, another claim they said was not true. Any similarity of SarsCov2 to HIV is a natural mutation that never required any lab work to create, just a random but completely natural event (NOT).

This new highly contagious mutant strain also fits with the fast and loose vaccine development programs creating those mutations in the race for a vaccine. That's why those new strains popped up in countries working on a vaccine. Plus it explains the mink outbreak as the mink is one of their lab animals used in SarsCovid vaccine development.

SarsCov2 is a man made virus altered with HIV genetics to create a highly contagious airborne version of aids. It is the results of a covert, biological weapons development program going on since at least the 1970s when they were working on HIV to attack the human immune system and be an unstoppable bio weapon.
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posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 08:21 AM
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originally posted by: Leonidas
The haste behind these vaccine rollouts should cause serious concern for everyone. A typical drug takes about 5 years from trials to approval. Vaccines? Closer to 10. We have no idea what the downstream unintended consequences of these vaccines might be.

Fortunately - selfishly - for me, I am a healthy. I wont be "eligible" for a jab for at least a year. (If I had to, I would choose the Astra Zeneca)

The timing of these "super" variants is suspicious as hell to me. No sooner are vaccines ready, mutations come along. There is a concerted effort to keep people in their homes, afraid and dependent on the government for their rent and food.

There will be public pressure for everyone to get vaccinated by creating a different class of people.

Want to go to a concert, sporting event, international travel, your favourite retailer? - Show your vaccine certificate.


Speaking of Astra Zeneca

BREAKING: Astra Zeneca Fire in India at largest vaccine producing plant



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: whatnext21

Really...they're calling it Covshield?

how #ing corny...that's the name in India.



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 09:28 AM
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posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 09:54 AM
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(If I had to, I would choose the Astra Zeneca)


Their vaccine is the sketchiest of all. They're the ones that had their trials halted in Brazil after people died.

www.veteranstoday.com...



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 11:05 AM
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One only has to look at the The earlier SARS-Cov "vaccine" that was developed and rushed in China a decade ago. The people who received it ended up having worse health issues and getting even sicker.

I suspect it won't be any different this time.



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: dontneedaname

Nope.

This virus is a weak cold or flu. Its spin-offs are also a weak cold or flu. A pussy flu, if you like.

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posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 02:31 PM
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Maybe its the conspiracy part of me but I will be driving where ever I need to go to get the astra zenica vaccine.

I dont knock anyone that wants to take the others, I would just personally prefer the tried and true method versus cutting edge when the vaccine comes in so fast.



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 02:35 PM
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"Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."

socialpanic.org...



posted on Jan, 21 2021 @ 02:46 PM
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I have done research on covid, but I am not and expert, I know that viruses mutate in the wild, that is what virus do and the reason we get Flu vaccones every year, is not such thing as a super covid virus and probably will not happen, but mutations will happen, soo far they have not been any different than the original virus released from China.

The body adapts to mutations, creating antibodies that is the natural way to fight this virus.

The covid vaccines is a new technology, nobody really knows how it works, they tell you they thing how it works, but once in the body is another different thing, as we humans are not one size fit all.

The vaccine was never tested on anything but a few handful of subjects very healthy between ages of 18 and 55 years of age, the studies were not enough to find out what this vaccine new technology will do to humans in the long term, nobody including pharma knows this soo anybody that takes the vaccine is a testing subject right now. Soo until this day the vaccine increases antibodies to fight covid in some subjects, but no in all, this means people still can get covid with the vaccine.

I read all the cases of people having reactions from the vaccine and while big pharma and CDC is taking a stance of is all for the good of the population is somethings that people needs to be very concern about.

BTW Moderna is having some problems with their vaccine in California as I read today the vaccine had to be stopped, CDC is aware of this. But I am sure it will be pushed regardless because is for the good of the people.

BTW Covid, just like the Flu will infect all, vaccine or not just like the Flu virus, some will be fine some will have complications and died from it, just like Flu.

Life goes on, until another virus escape from another facility around the world, interestingly Covid is not even a new virus is been around for quite a while.



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