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hi simon.
i'm wondering how you feel about what's going on between me and the board's 'systems' right now. do you think it's right to bury everything left?
specifically the threads concerning scott ritter, bias in iraq coverage, and the latest one, the 'christian mafia', are paradigms of truth suppression and the insidious creep of the thought police.
help? advice? a clear, '# off, wanker'?
quote(from SO): Your ATSNN news submission was voted to be moved to the current events forum.
to SO:
FredT has moved it to BTS, because he thought 'it seems a better fit'. do you agree that's where it belongs?
i mean, even newsmax is reporting it. it seems like neocon voices are hell bent on burying this story.
i feel this looks bad on ATS, because a voice is being silenced here. my voice as well as ritter's.
certainly, even if it's not ATSNN material, it is at least not 'below top secret'.
where do you stand? i like to think ATS can remain impartial, but it seems the hard 'right' neocons have arrested control around here.
i'm not a 'lefty'. i don't 'believe' scott ritter. it's not about that, for me. it's about feeling marginalised for trying to bring a current event to light. so is ATS propoganda now, too? or can we admit that things like smear campaigns can be used to demonise people who speak out against big brother, and that this may have happened to scott ritter, and that scott ritter may be 'in the loop'.
normally at ATS, things are analysed, links are provided for arguments, etc.
in this case, this guy ritter has been 'discredited' using pure ad hominem rhetoric and innuendo. and it was successful. everyone 'knows' now that he's a 'liar' and a 'pedophile'.
does this live up to the site motto? i don't think so.
you propobably don't care, but, this issue is pivotal to my view of ATS. i've always known it's crawling with all the creatures in the menagerie, but it seems some of the more aggresive beasts have begun steering the flavour. if they succeed, i will no longer see this site as a bastion of free speech and alternative ideas, but rather, just another propoganda wing of the fourth reich.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Sorry, billybob posted a sucky story to ATSNN and it got voted down because it was not ATSNN material, so he goes off crying and manufacturing stories of partisanship that if they exist, exist in the opposite direction. Grow up, we've all had ATSNN stories trashed for various reasons. Post real news about a relevant story instead of a charged commentary and maybe it'll pass muster.
Originally posted by DeltaNine
I think billybob has an important point and we shouldn't be cluttering his thread.
Originally posted by DeltaNine
There's lots of stuff on ATSNN that strictly shouldn't be on there. In fact, I would add most of the stuff shouldn't be.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Sorry, billybob posted a sucky story to ATSNN and it got voted down because it was not ATSNN material, so he goes off crying and manufacturing stories of partisanship that if they exist, exist in the opposite direction. Grow up, we've all had ATSNN stories trashed for various reasons. Post real news about a relevant story instead of a charged commentary and maybe it'll pass muster.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Anyway billybob, if you have a problem with the mods and their decisions or a general problem with the board you should use u2u or the suggestions button rather than airing your problems in an open thread.
Originally posted by billybob
'sucky' -ad hominem
'crying' -sensationalism
'real news' -censorship
'opposite direction' -misdirection
'relevent' -subjective
'charged commentary' -extreme situations inspire passion, ...it's human
'muster' -censorship
'djohnsto77' -neocon bias
'djohnsto77' -neocon bias
Originally posted by Seekerof
Sarcasm aside and no offense intended here, billybob, but wouldn't the proper way of handling your [this] issue(s) have been to file a complaint/suggestion for staff review or were you simply looking for membership support of your views?
seekerof
[edit on 19-3-2005 by Seekerof]
Originally posted by billybob
i u2u-ed the owner and the administrator. had i gotten a response, i would not have publicly aired this issue.